More Of Meghan’s Archwell podcasts…

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Just to continue the discussion

First of you, all you were going on about how it was not an issue with renovations of Houses/ palaces because they all belong to us. This was when a few people moaned about W&K going to their 4th house, after all that money was spent on renovating KP.

Didn't a driveway cost over 1M, for that, and other places that don't even have a living soul living in them cost a lot to maintain, yet a hissy fit was thrown about Frogmore.

Quite sure that H&M do not 'take from the taxpayer'.

The lavish wedding was asked for by the palace, and H&M were fine with that.

Fair enough - irrelevant to you.

This is food for thought and the comparison with Yoko may well be apposite. She was very clear (years ago) that it was John who insisted on having her around all the time, positioning her in the band during rehearsals etc, to the understandable annoyance of the others. She felt it unfair that she had been cast as some witch like evil genius breaking up the Beatles when it was in fact, as you say, what John wanted. I believe her.

The difference may be that while in that partnership John was the creative one who made the money, Meghan may feel forced to hustle for the lifestyle as harry is a fish out of water. Don't know. I can imagine a scenario where Harry was driving things re leaving, for whatever reason and she is now getting most of the blame. I do already know that on a level, but I'm going to try harder to hold it in mind (even when she's pissing me off with ridiculous stuff about Mandela, etc)

I think your dislike of Meghan makes you less than objective - she certainly was not an A list actress but she was not second rate. She appeared to be good at her craft and performed reasonably and at the same level as her cast colleagues.

She did serious things before she married a royal - she was a UN women’s advocate and she did do plenty of humanitarian work in Canada(which not all entertainers do). So she does have a claim in which to discuss serious issues - this is indeed something she was familiar with before Harry.

I haven't listened to it and probably won't, @skullbabe. I'm not a big Mariah fan. Well not at all really.
I've said before that doing interviews is a tough skill to learn. No one is going to be great at it initially because when you're usually the one being interviewed, your instinct is to talk too much.
The interviews are just a way to attract a new audience to earn money for Spotify. The title words are a way to link 12 interviews together but I doubt there's been ern much thought how that would work in practice. Because basically she just isn't experienced enough yet to be able to skillfully manoeuvre people like someone like Oprah could. Interviewers have to listen to organise the content and thinking ahead to channel it in the right direction while still sounding and looking engaged. It's hard. Meghan is still at the oh let's give you my opinion stage. Time will tell how far she can progress from that.

W&K going to their 4th house

Kensington Palace, Anmer Hall, now Adelaide Cottage - by my count that is 3.

I think there’s a house in the grounds of Balmoral that was given to them for their use.

@skullbabe

There is a cut off for actress in Hollywood at 40. It’s incredibly ageist and unfair, but that’s the system. It’s very unlikely Meghan would have gotten another role like suits. She’s a very limited actress.

Tom Bowers book explains her UN roles etc and how she got the hump when they wouldn’t promote her beyond the basic ranks of actresses in the UN

interviewing is a much underrated skill. You only notice when it’s done badly. I couldn’t do it, my brother is a journalist/author and it’s taken him a long time to hone those skills

That’s been confirmed as fake news, NanaNelly.

To me, the main thing with the Sussexes is they want to make loads of money, as much as possible, by whatever means possible.

any charitable/humanitarian benefits are secondary.

look at how MM was all “but what about ME?” In that ITV interview in Africa. How tone deaf can you be?

so no, I don’t support them.

The difference may be that while in that partnership John was the creative one who made the money, Meghan may feel forced to hustle for the lifestyle as harry is a fish out of water. Don't know. I can imagine a scenario where Harry was driving things re leaving, for whatever reason and she is now getting most of the blame. I do already know that on a level, but I'm going to try harder to hold it in mind (even when she's pissing me off with ridiculous stuff about Mandela, etc)

@CPL593H thanks for saying this about the Yoko/John dynamic as I’m sure not many people know this aspect and blame Yoko. I think your perspective on Meghan hustling because of Harry’s relative ineptitude is quite interesting and food for thought - a different perspective especially if we take it that Harry was driving the leaving.

While they were at uni. That property is now privately let by others.

Ah ok. Not that I grudged them it.

look at how MM was all “but what about ME?” In that ITV interview in Africa. How tone deaf can you be?

The reporter asked the same questions that get asked on these trips. Lets talk about you, W & H were asked in the same manner. They all answered. Very weird that MM is singled out when she is merely answering like everyone else has.

This is why MM (and others ) can see the disparity - the so called 'whataboutery' sprinkled on here. Why was there no outrage on W talking about himself in South America or Harry in Lesotho.

Actually, they are taking money from the British public - who paid millions for their lavish wedding? and for the Frogmore cottage restorations?

It's usually claimed that they paid back the Frogmore renovation costs, though with the RF's financial opacity I'm assuming nothing

Ditto the thing about Charles (ie: us) funding them; certainly Harry claimed they'd been "cut off", but he's claimed other things which haven't always proved to be accurate

He's keen enough to "take money from the British public" for his security though, otherwise he wouldn't be suing the Home Office (even though he'll get it anyway on a case-by-case basis)

And the answer from a Royal to that question is always ‘Fine, I’ve really enjoyed x, y and z and learning about ‘x charity’ and their work here.

Not - no one asked my if I’m ok.

That’s the deal

She could have answered that question differently. It’s what people in the public eye do. Did Audrey Hepburn complain about her well-being when visiting poor countries where children were dying and there was immense poverty?

I can’t recall either of them whining that no one had asked how they were.

Yes, they speak of what Africa means to them, conservation, their last visit, their mum, land mines. But I honestly can’t recall either of them complaining that no one had asked how they were.

The reporter asked the same questions that get asked on these trips.

Do please feel free to find us an example of a reporter asking a member of the Royal Family “Has it been a struggle?” and“Are you okay?” at the conclusion of a successful royal tour.

The thing is, Yoko's version came out after he died, so he couldn't exactly refute it could he? She claimed all sorts of things in an interview a few months after he died - that he was really in love with Paul, was bisexual and told her she looked like a man, weird stuff.

He may well have insisted on having her around, but in the very beginning she hounded and stalked him for ages, so it was a bit weird on both sides. I do think he used her as a wedge between him and the other three (particularly Paul) because he wanted to break away from the Beatles, but she also used him to forge a career (they insisted on having Klein as a new manager because he said he would help Yoko's career, promised her an exhibition in New York etc.) She also introduced John to heroin, so they may also have had the interdependence of shared drug use.
Ultimately, I think they did love eachother, but it was definitely a bit toxic.

Actually, similar to H&M, John and Yoko lashed out at former friends very publicly when it all when pear shaped. John seemed to be a very damaged character.

On a recent documentary it showed Diana on her landmine campaign. Jenny Bond shouted to her that people were calling her a loose cannon and being 'political'. Diana did complain because she was so annoyed at being described as such. It detracted from her work. Nothing about her personal woes.

@derxa - that was from The Princess documentary, wasn’t it? - where Diana said tersely but very clearly - “the second question needs to be answered - the allegation that this is political”. It was really striking how focussed she was.

Yes. I'm an unashamed Diana fan. I'm sure she could be a nightmare but that was offset by her good qualities. All her speeches and statements were very clearly worded. None of the dreaded word salad. We need to get back to the days of plain English.

I will confess to reading a British newspaper as soon as I wake up just so I can check that the Queen is ok. My family even joke and will ask me at times - how’s the Queen today mama.

Diana really showed her mettle with that cause, I believe she was truly passionate about it and became very well informed and a force to be reckoned with. It makes you wonder what else she'd have gone on to do.