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susan12345678 · 2022-08-31T19:51:31+00:00

Just to continue the discussion

Ommommomm · 02/09/2022 07:23

Jasminejoy · 02/09/2022 06:24

I think Meghan is trolling the public and its brilliant... come on, who seriously would publicise a comment like the Mandela one. I think her strategy is that even bad press is good and sells podcasts.

The threats that she's not signed an NDA and that she write a diary etc... that's more of it. She's playing the villain that will generate more interest and make money for Netflix. Its probably a requirement that she mentions the Riyal family x number of times in each podcast, otherwise the wouldn't generate a lot of interest.

If you are correct, that would make her message of “authenticity” become incredibly convoluted.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 02/09/2022 07:25

I didn’t think there was anything passive aggressive in the comment. What I noticed was more that she seemed to be searching for something positive to say whilst feeling misgivings perhaps. She wasn’t exactly gushing with enthusiasm. It seemed like a diplomatic comment.

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susan12345678 · 02/09/2022 07:27

I didn’t think there was anything passive aggressive in the comment. What I noticed was more that she seemed to be searching for something positive to say whilst feeling misgivings perhaps

If she had misgivings, they were clearly warranted!

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Wartywart · 02/09/2022 07:34

@LaMarschallin Yes, take your point - I'd not thought of it like that, so will retract what I said 🙂

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susan12345678 · 02/09/2022 07:35

I think part of the reason MM generates so much debate is that most have us have encountered a 'Meghan' in our lives, and have seen for ourselves how toxic they can be and how much damage they can do.

The lack of self-awareness is a case in point. H&M genuinely seem to think that the nasty media are to blame for their unpopularity - rather than their own actions. Hence Meghan's podcast announcement about the public 'finally' getting to hear from her. Yet the more people hear from her directly - the worse things become. She truly is her own worst enemy.

As for speculation that SS is trying to generate a buzz, even a negative buzz - I'm not sure how they can monetize that, long-term? There's nothing to sell, other than sneery stories and their aim to become ersatz-Royals or Philanthro-entrepeneurs in the US along Obama lines is clearly doomed to failure.

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pilates · 02/09/2022 07:35

“Did a poster really register the name “covid lies” just for this thread?”
^
Yes pathetic isn’t it.

Why name change - just own it.

We’ve had criticisms of PA, PW & Kate to try and derail from MM the 🐍

DFOD · 02/09/2022 07:47

susan12345678 · 02/09/2022 07:35

I think part of the reason MM generates so much debate is that most have us have encountered a 'Meghan' in our lives, and have seen for ourselves how toxic they can be and how much damage they can do.

The lack of self-awareness is a case in point. H&M genuinely seem to think that the nasty media are to blame for their unpopularity - rather than their own actions. Hence Meghan's podcast announcement about the public 'finally' getting to hear from her. Yet the more people hear from her directly - the worse things become. She truly is her own worst enemy.

As for speculation that SS is trying to generate a buzz, even a negative buzz - I'm not sure how they can monetize that, long-term? There's nothing to sell, other than sneery stories and their aim to become ersatz-Royals or Philanthro-entrepeneurs in the US along Obama lines is clearly doomed to failure.

Maybe they know this and are making hay while the sun shines? She’s just another client, a commodity. They know she has a defined shelf life around her short and increasingly distant time in the RF?

Or maybe they know like Trump that they only need a core base of a defined size to generate cash and triggering polarised opinions is an effective populist tactic.

Malie · 02/09/2022 07:48

Jasminejoy · 02/09/2022 06:24

I think Meghan is trolling the public and its brilliant... come on, who seriously would publicise a comment like the Mandela one. I think her strategy is that even bad press is good and sells podcasts.

The threats that she's not signed an NDA and that she write a diary etc... that's more of it. She's playing the villain that will generate more interest and make money for Netflix. Its probably a requirement that she mentions the Riyal family x number of times in each podcast, otherwise the wouldn't generate a lot of interest.

So telling whacking great porkies is good. You are OK for your kids to do that? I would tell them off. For some of us truth does matter

themessygarden · 02/09/2022 07:54

It just doesn't make sense to me that she is making these public faux pas, she is a smart woman, who has been curating her image for long before she met Harry and has a shit hot PR team supporting her.

The Mandela, diva and not experiencing racism until meeting Harry comments are just so out of the realms of normality for even an average person. So for her to put that out there, knowing that her supporters and detractors will be listening to every nuance, just makes me wonder what her tactics are all about.

The RF digs are par for the course as she feels very resentful towards her inlays, but the other comments are totally bizarre.

DFOD · 02/09/2022 07:55

Jasminejoy · 02/09/2022 06:24

I think Meghan is trolling the public and its brilliant... come on, who seriously would publicise a comment like the Mandela one. I think her strategy is that even bad press is good and sells podcasts.

The threats that she's not signed an NDA and that she write a diary etc... that's more of it. She's playing the villain that will generate more interest and make money for Netflix. Its probably a requirement that she mentions the Riyal family x number of times in each podcast, otherwise the wouldn't generate a lot of interest.

That would be a lovely theory but she is not emotionally robust enough for that - she has a fragile brittle ego beneath her delusional grandiosity.

Novella4 · 02/09/2022 07:55

@Malie
Interesting point .
So do you respect the royal family ?

DFOD · 02/09/2022 08:01

Novella4 · 02/09/2022 07:55

@Malie
Interesting point .
So do you respect the royal family ?

More derailing whataboutery to take the attention off the thread title.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

I am a republican, have zero respect for a parasitic institution such as the RF, the vileness of PA etc but that doesn’t prevent me from having an opinion and being able to voice it on something else.

MaulPerton · 02/09/2022 08:04

I'm not much of a royalist but rather than eroding my feelings for the RF, the antics of H&M have made me more sympathetic and frankly grateful towards W&C especially

The huge public response to H & M is not only a good indicator of this sentiment but highlights just how much support there is for the monarchy. H & M sought to undermine the institution, which prompted many, who may not have considered doing so previously, into action to defend it. The large number of discussions about H & M are telling us more about support for the monarchy than any poll ever will.

ajandjjmum · 02/09/2022 08:04

Covidlies · 01/09/2022 23:56

Ah, so it is ok for a William to lie? just because you like him?!
I mean, he is a big boy and can stand up for himself. He could have said it is a private matter. Or no comment. But he and his team said categorically that he did not have Covid, when he indeed had Covid.

(Btw, he lied to the Royal reporters, not just DM)

like I said, people here would have more credibility if they took a consistent stand and deplored and mistrusted all the apparent liars.

You actually don't know that he lied. Maybe he and Kate kept quiet knowing that with Charles, Boris and several Ministers sick, it would add more panic. So maybe the press office knew no more than the likes of you and I.

And I could actually understand that stance.

With regard to Kate and Meghan - who knows what happened during their first meetings with each other. If one of the rumours I have read is true, Kate (nor William) would ever trust her. But none of us know, it's all supposition.

At least with Meghan, we know she consistently lies I suppose!

LaMarschallin · 02/09/2022 08:07

Wartywart · 02/09/2022 07:34

@LaMarschallin Yes, take your point - I'd not thought of it like that, so will retract what I said 🙂

@Wartywart

Mind you, I did say that I'd only read what Kate said. I'm now thinking back to Camilla's "Of course" when she was asked if she'd miss Harry and Meghan when they'd gone to North America.
That one definitely had to be seen rather than just read

J0y · 02/09/2022 08:13

I remember Kate saying "William and I are thrilled. And then "it's a very special time for a couple".
Like another poster I remember thinking hmmmm they are not thrilled.

Novella4 · 02/09/2022 08:14

@MaulPerton
Harry and Meghan reinvigorated the monarchy it's true. Harry was always popular
They have lost that now . William and Kate are extremely dull

I'm a republican and I've avoided Meghan threads because there is so much more of real seriousness to address re the uk royals misuse of their position. I'd heard the anti Meghan threads are batshit and I've seen it now

I don't 'support' Meghan but I love how H and M threaten the whole edifice . More power to them .

Ommommomm · 02/09/2022 08:17

themessygarden · 02/09/2022 07:54

It just doesn't make sense to me that she is making these public faux pas, she is a smart woman, who has been curating her image for long before she met Harry and has a shit hot PR team supporting her.

The Mandela, diva and not experiencing racism until meeting Harry comments are just so out of the realms of normality for even an average person. So for her to put that out there, knowing that her supporters and detractors will be listening to every nuance, just makes me wonder what her tactics are all about.

The RF digs are par for the course as she feels very resentful towards her inlays, but the other comments are totally bizarre.

I get the feeling that a lot of it is a performance for Harry. She needs to keep him feeling emotionally connected to her narrative as victim, maybe because that’s what makes him feel like her hero.

She seemed to do much better personally, if not financially, as an independent woman who aspired to be an A listed in the social media world, before she met Harry.

Readinginthesun · 02/09/2022 08:19

BreadInCaptivity · 02/09/2022 01:01

It's been a while since I commented on such threads.

For context, like many other people I was a big supporter of M initially.

I applauded her breaking silly protocols such as what nail varnish she wore, not wearing tights, walking herself down the aisle and especially her decision to give birth on her own terms and decide when and where she was prepared to allow herself and Archie to be photographed for the first time.

I understood there was a difference between anticipating the life of being a royal spouse and experiencing the reality of it and more so having done that, the courage to say, no, I am not going to spend the rest of my life this way.

H&M had the opportunity to do so much good and forge for themselves a wonderful lifestyle.

There was absolutely no need for them to do this in the way they have. They both seem to thrive on victimhood and a need to throw "truth" bombs and them complain when they get blooded by their own shrapnel.

They both seem unaware that that their continued grievances against the very institution that is the source of their global platform and their determination to continually monetise that, in the context of current financial instability for much of the worlds population is hugely arrogant and demonstrates a significant lack of self awareness.

If you want to be taken seriously and have gravitas in this world, then you need not only to be more than a one trick pony but also be able to demonstrate that you have a "voice" that's credible and worth listening to. Not one that is demonstrably caught out lying time and time again.

The Cut article and podcasts are a PR disaster for M.

The usual posters will of course defend them to the hilt and use whataboutary, but it makes not a shred of difference about how she and H are increasingly being perceived - out of touch, out of content, out of relevance and out of credibility.

Things could have been so different if they had sought a more amicable separation from the RF (at least publicly), but the pair of them seem to feed on negativity and a shared sense of injustice, whilst enjoying a lifestyle that most people cannot begin to aspire to. I can't fathom what could ever be "enough" for them.

I'm not much of a royalist but rather than eroding my feelings for the RF, the antics of H&M have made me more sympathetic and frankly grateful towards W&C especially.

Excellent post

TrashyPanda · 02/09/2022 08:23

So a couple of months ago, Nelson Mandela daughter said there was “an unbreakable bond” with Harry.

now, his grandson has spoken out about MMs using NMs name to big herself up.

what a stupid, ridiculous thing to do. Did she really think she wouldn’t be found out? Does she honestly think there is any comparison between her and NM? Because that is seriously deluded.

MM really is her own worst enemy. Who in their right mind would believe anything she says, after so many lies?

Readinginthesun · 02/09/2022 08:24

I can’t get over some posters trying to equate MM’s documented and provable lies with W not publicly announcing he had Covid !?
At a time when Charles, Boris and various Government ministers had Covid ( some seriously) and the country was in panic, what purpose would it have served ?
Meanwhile, back to the Mandela subject ……any update or do I have to trawl through Twitter ?

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 02/09/2022 08:25

I still wonder if MM is intentionally making herself such a liability to the RF that they have no choice but to give her an enormous settlement just to go away.

DFOD · 02/09/2022 08:25

Ommommomm · 02/09/2022 08:17

I get the feeling that a lot of it is a performance for Harry. She needs to keep him feeling emotionally connected to her narrative as victim, maybe because that’s what makes him feel like her hero.

She seemed to do much better personally, if not financially, as an independent woman who aspired to be an A listed in the social media world, before she met Harry.

Show quote history

I think your first para is a smart insight to H&M relationship dynamic.

However she is now vastly more wealthy than she was single or within the RF.

unname · 02/09/2022 08:26

pilates · 02/09/2022 07:35

“Did a poster really register the name “covid lies” just for this thread?”
^
Yes pathetic isn’t it.

Why name change - just own it.

We’ve had criticisms of PA, PW & Kate to try and derail from MM the 🐍

I think the various methods of debate used here are truly fascinating. It’s like watching the US Presidents’ press secretaries under pressure.

I got sucked into reading it more than ever after The Cut article.

Deflection
Topic changing
Insults and name calling
Sarcasm
Emojis
Sarcasm with Emojis
and more

and a small cast of characters who seem to be on rotation. Several that make almost no sense every time they post their word salad.

I am also interested in the motivations behind everyone here, including me.

Malie · 02/09/2022 08:26

Novella4 · 02/09/2022 07:55

@Malie
Interesting point .
So do you respect the royal family ?

I respect the institution and prefer it to some dumb politician as president. Personally I think H&M should lose their royal titles as they are not working royals any more and all they want to do is criticise the very institutions that gives them any relevance. I mean, who would listen to a pretty dim bloke and a second rate actress if it wasn’t for their royal connection?