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susan12345678 · 31/08/2022 20:51

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Arnaquer · 01/09/2022 17:41

DorritLittle · 01/09/2022 16:10

Yeah the British public were the really unreasonable ones when Diana died. I was 19 and found it all completely bizarre to be honest.

Agree with this. It was ridiculous.

Arucanafeather · 01/09/2022 17:43

Readinginthesun · 01/09/2022 15:52

But was that not because she didn’t want to disrupt the rescue and recovery operation ?
I remember Aberfan very clearly and I recall that Prince Philip went first then HM visited a few days later.

Aberfan was a tragedy. A terrible tragedy that personally impacted my immediate family. There were far more pressing issues than how soon the Queen visited for those personally impacted. That was a political issue, impacted by the culpability of the national coal board I suspect. When she came, she was kindness itself and many people took comfort from her visit and empathy. No one I knew who was there ever had a bad word to say about her visit.

Farmageddon · 01/09/2022 17:45

DorritLittle · 01/09/2022 16:10

Yeah the British public were the really unreasonable ones when Diana died. I was 19 and found it all completely bizarre to be honest.

There's a good book called 'Mediated' which talks about how the media and television has shaped our response to public events. The author specifically mention's Diana's funeral and the over the top public grieving as an example. It's basically performative grief. We act differently when there is a camera around because we know we're being watched and what is expected of us.

AlexandriasWindmill · 01/09/2022 17:46

I'm sorry your family were affected by Aberfan @Arucanafeather Flowers

Malie · 01/09/2022 17:47

As for the Mandela comment no-one present can remember saying it. I think we all know people who just make up tall stories for effect - the thing is they don’t usually get on to the front of newspapers. MM obviously just romances whatever thoughts come into her head that are convenient at the time. More fool those who believe her. It helps her that she has an old shoe of a husband who appears just to go along with the nonsense.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 01/09/2022 17:48

Harry really comes across as a gutless whinger these days.

Maireas · 01/09/2022 17:49

What a dreadful thing, @Arucanafeather - such a terrible tragedy, sorry for your loss 💐

DorritLittle · 01/09/2022 17:54

Farmageddon · 01/09/2022 17:45

There's a good book called 'Mediated' which talks about how the media and television has shaped our response to public events. The author specifically mention's Diana's funeral and the over the top public grieving as an example. It's basically performative grief. We act differently when there is a camera around because we know we're being watched and what is expected of us.

That sounds really interesting. I listened to a random Radio 4 programme once about the psychology of riots - as I recall a rioting crowd is hugely influenced by what the other people are doing and I suspect that applies here too.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/09/2022 18:01

The British public were the really unreasonable ones when Diana died

Well, some of them, but otherwise I agree completely

Can you imagine having said that on a site like this at the time though? MN would have gone into meltdown with the deletions Hmm

dworky · 01/09/2022 18:04

Why can't you leave her alone? She's done nothing wrong, if you don't like what she says you don't have to listen.

DorritLittle · 01/09/2022 18:07

susan12345678 · 01/09/2022 16:18

Yeah the British public were the really unreasonable ones when Diana died. I was 19 and found it all completely bizarre to be honest

I was at Uni then, it seemed like a sort of mass hysteria, I found it very strange. I think the saturation coverage of Di & Dodi in the Med beforehand, and all the hand-wringing in the media about that, definitely contributed to the hysteria

Definitely. I was in France when she was, and she was literally everywhere on the newsstands. It was of course surreal when she died because she was in the papers literally every day and it had been a moving story that even I (a disinterested student) could not help know about. But the week after was something else... Mind you I partially blame Call me Tony and his heartfelt way with words!

Lineala · 01/09/2022 18:07

dworky · 01/09/2022 18:04

Why can't you leave her alone? She's done nothing wrong, if you don't like what she says you don't have to listen.

She's a liar. So your assertion she has done nothing wrong is incorrect. Unless you think it's OK to lie?

SammyScrounge · 01/09/2022 18:07

Readinginthesun · 31/08/2022 21:10

Are we any further forward establishing who called innocent children the n word ? For me that’s the most serious allegation.

If that story were true it would have had wall to wall coverage at the time and we would not have been allowed not to know about it.
The story is another of her 'i'm a victim' fantasies and quite dangerous if it stirs up racial hatred.

Roussette · 01/09/2022 18:14

dworky · 01/09/2022 18:04

Why can't you leave her alone? She's done nothing wrong, if you don't like what she says you don't have to listen.

Because it would leave a huge gap in use some people's lives. Very sad

Roussette · 01/09/2022 18:16

Lineala · 01/09/2022 18:07

She's a liar. So your assertion she has done nothing wrong is incorrect. Unless you think it's OK to lie?

Like Andrew saying "I never met her" but then giving her an undisclosed sum about £7million or more?

SammyScrounge · 01/09/2022 18:21

NoName2223 · 01/09/2022 16:47

I took away two things from MM's interview in The Cut..

  1. She seems to have a very outdated, almost Disney, view of being a princess. And at odds with her supposed feminist credentials. In 2022 the likes of Princess Anne demonstrate what a "real-life princess" is/does, and it is not Disney/glamourous and I don't see any obvious appeal to "little girls". I suspect she had no idea what being a working royal really meant before she got married, and it is far removed from the celebrity lifestyle she had in mind. As a full-time working (in a male dominated industry) mother who is a proud feminist, I connect with absolutely nothing MM says or does. It seems to be all woke word salad and make-up and dresses.
  2. Regardless of who said what, and to whom, about comparing Mandela celebrations to those for her getting hitched, it was extremely poor judgement on her behalf to broadcast the anecdote, and implies (rightly or wrongly) that she actually believes her own hype. She has accidentally shown us who she is and it's hard to come back from such a massive faux pas.
As others have said, I really wish they would both retreat from public life and stop embarrassing themselves, and enjoy their wealth, health and family (as in their children), and I don't understand why they don't want to do that.

She has to be the centre of attention and she fabricates to make herself the centre.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 01/09/2022 18:26

Roussette · 01/09/2022 18:16

Like Andrew saying "I never met her" but then giving her an undisclosed sum about £7million or more?

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Lineala · 01/09/2022 18:30

Roussette · 01/09/2022 18:16

Like Andrew saying "I never met her" but then giving her an undisclosed sum about £7million or more?

Well no actually. I have seen an interview with my own eyes and during which i heard Meghan Markle tell lies. This was later confirmed by a person whose integrity is more reliable than many. However I haven't seen Andrew, and I presume that is to whom you are referring, having sex with Guiffre when she was 17 and was a trafficked person.

So no, not even remotely like 🙄

Roussette · 01/09/2022 18:33

SilverLiningPlaybook · 01/09/2022 18:26

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

It's a little more than that though isn't it?

A taxpayer funded member of the RF paying off someone he did or didn't have sex with, at a best friends mansion who he continued to mix with despite a prosecution for sex trafficking?
Compared to an embellishment of what someone said to Meghan.
A little different!

SilverLiningPlaybook · 01/09/2022 18:34

Meghan has been shown to tell lies . Repeatedly. Are you saying it’s okay to tell lies but just not about certain things?

Ohnonevermind · 01/09/2022 18:37

@SilverLiningPlaybook

Meghan is a pathological liar

Ohnonevermind · 01/09/2022 18:40

With MM the lying seems to be a MH issue due to the variety and frequency of lies

she lies to make herself more important and she lies to make herself a victim.

Wheresthebeach · 01/09/2022 18:49

MM courts publicity, constantly. She wants to be the centre of attention and is constantly hinting at dishing more dirt on the RF. if they went and lived a quiet life, working hard, guarding their privacy like they said they wanted to, then they wouldn't get the attention they are. But they make political statement, and insist on their 'truth bombs'.

The constant referencing Andrew is just derailing the thread. Those who want to discuss him should start a thread to do that, rather than being goady on this thread.

This thread is about MM and Harry.

Novella4 · 01/09/2022 18:51

@Lineala
So you claim Meghan is a liar.

And you are giving Andrew the benefit of the doubt .

Therefore Meghan is worse than Andrew .

I'd tell you to back away from the internet but it's posters like you who help the republican cause

MarshaMelrose · 01/09/2022 18:53

Personally, I still think that she didn't make up the
comment at the premiere. Did she overegg it by saying his face face was full of light, making her sound almost like the second coming? Yes. But she's an actress and as Mariah said, a bit of a diva. But I just won't believe that she made up a likening of her marriage to Mandela's release and freedom for SA.
I don't think she's totally detached from reality even if hers seems more than a bit skewed.

I was OK with them moving from the UK. I thought they'd just get on with their lives. I'm supportive of their charity work and Harry speaking at the UN. But why should I be quiet and ignore her constantly taking aim at the RF, knowing they can't defend themselves. Her dig in The Cut that she's now free to say anything. If she can't shut up and ignore the UK, why should I shut up and ignore her? I might even pedal some lies as that seems to be the order of the day.

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