More Of Meghan’s Archwell podcasts…

[susan12345678]

Just to continue the discussion

It would have been enough for Charles Spencer to do the walk, maybe with his sisters. Charles was her ex husband and the boys should have been spared all that.

This is what I’m a talking about. Prince Charles doesn’t appear to be facing any hostility from the crowd at all (quite the reverse). And this is what the people wanted…

I always though Harry was great with people. Natural, open and genuine. He has a sense of humour and wicked fun

He always seemed so cheerful and relaxed in Kate's company

www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a27268978/kate-middleton-prince-harry-anzac-day-2019-photos/

Yeah the British public were the really unreasonable ones when Diana died. I was 19 and found it all completely bizarre to be honest.

@Serenster his sons are with him..

Charles and Diana are said to have became "friends" of a sort before her death, Both had found some equilibrium and contentment since the divorce, and both keen on doing their best for the boys.
Diana especially seems to have been having a great time.

It’s really sad - if you read the whole paragraph that anecdote is in - it’s obvious that Meghan is aware of her meaning to most black British and the diaspora and

“Of course, she knows she’s no Mandela, but perhaps even telling me this story is a mode of defense, because if you are a symbol for all that is good and charitable, how can anybody find you objectionable, how can anybody hate you?”

Because it’s obvious no matter what she does and how hard she tries - people will always hate her. She needs to accept it because there will be no reasoning with people determined to see the worst in her at all times. Hopefully both her and Harry will find their niche and continue to be happy.

Yeah the British public were the really unreasonable ones when Diana died. I was 19 and found it all completely bizarre to be honest

I was at Uni then, it seemed like a sort of mass hysteria, I found it very strange. I think the saturation coverage of Di & Dodi in the Med beforehand, and all the hand-wringing in the media about that, definitely contributed to the hysteria

I feel like there’s something in this poll which goes some way to explain what has been discussed up-thread about these Mumsnet threads: U.K. women like Catherine (even more than the Queen) and don’t like Meghan. Even millennial women like Catherine more than they do Meghan.

Men don’t rate Catherine as highly, nor Meghan so low.

No - read what she said again and then come back to what I wrote.

Because it’s obvious no matter what she does and how hard she tries - people will always hate her. She needs to accept it because there will be no reasoning with people determined to see the worst in her at all times. Hopefully both her and Harry will find their niche and continue to be happy

Yes, there will always be some people who don't like us. But if we lead honest lives, treat others with respect, most people will reciprocate. That applies to all of us. Meghan isn't a special case, in that respect. What her fans and followers struggle to accept is the role Meghan's own lies and lack of humility have played in her own downfall.

I’m not missing anything - read what she said again. Then ask yourself if she really said that someone said a slur in a newspaper headline or in print. Because she didn’t.

Dull is absolutely fine. Life’s been way too exciting recently. I long for grey, boring dullness for a few years.

I have both directed at me and others within the past 5 years

Remind us what the Brexit vote was, and the proportion of the electorate who voted Tory in the last election. Any government would cry with disbelieving gratitude to get 66% of the vote.

As someone who has lived both places - yes. Racism in the US is in your face - racism in the UK is very insidious and subtle but still just as damaging.

I agree absolutely about the queen bringing the boys back to London. They were at Balmoral and the plan was for them to remain there out of the public eye to mourn privately, but the Queen was very unpopular for her apparent lack of reaction to Diana's death and was advised to return to London by the PM. In hindsight (25 years later and knowing what we now know about Harry's mental health it was probably an error. But hindsight is a wonderful thing . . .

Please stop this. I have been called this and had others called this too (yes within the past 40 years). Stop it.

@Blossomtoes you and @susan12345678 are both misunderstanding the situation

Governments are elected .

Monarchies need a much higher level of 'support'than a government

It means precisely that.
I’ll help with a starter question “What is the one drop rule and why did it come about?”

@skullbabe I am very sorry that you have been called that. I believe you as there are still unfortunately vile racists around. However, Meghan has specifically said that journalists on the royal rota have used it to describe her child, which is an outrageous and apparently unfounded accusation and people are rightly, asking to know who specifically has done this.

42 % postive for Charles and he's up next!
Things are going better than I thought

I hadn't realised his rating was that low on yougov, and it's not as if he's done anything really alarming recently - except the bags stuffed with cash of course, and I'm not sure very many would expect anything better since selling access to himself has been known for years

If this remains the case then the downside will be the PR drive which'll surround the coronation, but I'll keep faith in the ability to dig once the hoopla's over (and mummy isn't around to offend any more)

@skullbabe

i was wondering if you’ve had a chance to listen to Don Lemon’s comments on the podcasts on CNN ?

it was very interesting, and I thought it raised some interesting points.

@skullbabe

I’m sorry you’ve had racial abuse, there are some nasty ignorant people out there.

Novella4 ·
Monarchies need a much higher level of 'support' than a government

Quite the reverse, I would have said. The monarchy doesn't affect your day-to-day life, has been going for centuries, would be difficult to untangle constitutionally, and occasionally offer a fun occasion- wedding, jubilee etc.

A Government usually rouses at least half the population to anger - even some who voted for it