Meghan Markle Archetype podcast

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Meghan's long-awaited podcast has launched. Sorry if there's a thread about this already. Has anyone listened to it yet? Thoughts?

I think visiting a foreign country and having something potentially dangerous happen in the place you are staying, will spook most first time parents.

i have sympathy for that.

it is easy with hindsight to say they should have done this or that...but at that time, it probably was quite difficult to figure out what to do...especially if there is a general sentiment that you should just get on with it.

I get the general sense of MM feeling displaced and without control during her time in the RF. Probably in her own environment she would make decisions more comfortably

You seem upset. Endlessly telling or implying people are racist bullies and trolls because they discuss/criticise someone you're a massive fan of tends to piss people off too I am afraid. They're big accusations and in the current climate really stigmatising, and I for one have had enough of it. Let's leave it there shall we?

I have not implied anyone is a racist bully or a troll. I know there has been a lot of name changing on these threads over years. That is not trolling, it's plain and simple NCing. My name is familiar because I don't NC.

I'm moving on, can you?

While I am here though I have to confess that I am really surprised by the almost total denial and dismissal, by some, of the opinions of actual SA nationals, many of whom are black, who are expressing their own truths and are upset by M's accounts of her time there.

From interacting directly with you? Definitely

I don't actually have an issue with Meghan (and Harry too, presumably?) being upset about a near miss concerning their baby. I think lots of parents would have felt the same.
My objection is to what I perceive to be the passive aggressive digs at the Royal Family in relating the tale. "The housing unit they had us staying in..." "They made us go out on the next visit." As though the terrible royals and "men in suits" were forcing them to stay in a slum, undertake terrible duties and abandon their son.

Of course some propensity will get offended that MM had an uncomfortable incident while visiting their home country.

some people will get offended too if Macron said he had an upset tummy after a fry up in the UK.

so what?

blueRidge, I agree that her language is a bit ‘victim’.

I think that’s how she views her time in the RF, as someone not in control at all. Work and family all mixed up, no job description, very little autonomy. All terrifyingly muddled while
being under intense scrutiny.

wasn't she in her late 30s or was it 40s (?), having lived on her own, carved out an independent career, it must be quite difficult to adjust.

Yes but what did she expect? There’s a price to be paid for unimaginable wealth and luxury. Surely she knew that?

Even they are being called racist!

I was only agreeing with the idea that people getting heated on these threads have some unhappiness and would prefer to focus on this topic than their own lives. I think it applies to more than one poster here.

I am an American and I know exactly what housing unit means.

She probably thought she could manage it, but realised it was too much.

you know, like someone joins Goldman Sachs and then hates it. But they still put ex GS on their resume and use their contacts to get future jobs.

and probably talk about their time there in somewhat negative terms till they get over the trauma and see it as one of life’s learnings

I'm absolutely loving the twists people are making on this thread to excuse the use of "this housing unit they had us staying in".

Also the fact that the podcast has been listened to many times. Isn't that probably down to notoriety rather than popularity?

I’m not talking about this one incident, I’m talking about the obsessive stalking and bitching about MM over the time she’s been with Harry (and all the other people who get media kickings). This is just but one small incident.

But it's OK for her to bitch about the family that welcomed her with open arms, and provided a lifestyle that was beyond her wildest dreams?

Like many others in the UK, I thought her arrival could be a very positive thing for the UK. From the point of her engagement interview I had concerns about how much of it was 'real' and how much was 'acted', but I still wished her and Harry all the best. It is her behaviour and actions that has made me dislike her - and Harry's weakness.

Don't hate either of them, but certainly not a fan.

What are they running from in their own lives, what is the cause of the anger and bile directed at strangers?

It also applies to you, @IrisVersicolor. What are you running from to express anger towards me? You did a long post at me accusing me of thinking it was OK to call MM racial names. I've never called her any name and I've regularly stuck up for her. So why don't you get yourself under control before attacking strangers.

@IrisVersicolor

We’re having a perfectly rational debate about a podcast
people have raised issues about

1. the amount of time she spent talking about herself and the amount of time devoted to her guest and her ability to drill down on her guests answers
2. the fact that she brought up the p&g story again
3. the fact that she used language about South Africa (which was derogatory) and the RF (to make herself a victim again)
4. due to previous interviews (now debunked) many listeners as found a credibility issue with her ‘fire’ story 5)Whether she has the knowledge and life experience to be a credible voice on important feminist issues 6)whether she’s as smart as she thinks she is based on her handling of the subject matter

we have tried to remain polite when people have lobbed in accusations of bullying, racism and frankly nonsensical claims defending the issues raised above

I'm absolutely loving the twists people are making on this thread to excuse the use of "this housing unit they had us staying in". She's culturally tone deaf. I think this was part of the problem here in the UK as well.
The funniest bit of the podcast was when Serena asked Meghan why didn't she take Archie with her after the fire incident. Meghan replied with some incomprehensible gobbledygook and ignored the question. She tunes out inconvenient truths.

Do you mean this...

Serena: “How did you not bring him?”

Meghan: “I was like, Can you just tell people what happened? And so much, I think, optically. The focus ends up being on how it looks instead of how it feels. And part of the humanizing and the breaking through of these labels and these archetypes and these boxes that we’re put into is having some understanding on the human moments behind the scenes that people might not have any awareness of and to give each other a break.

I've read that twice and nope. No idea what she is on about.

Yes that

It's been called a word salad or attempt to waffle and not respond to SW's valid point that if you were worried about the safety of the child why not take him with you. She could have said "I felt he was unsafe but was bullied into keeping to the engagement" which is probably what she thinks she felt at the time.

I haven't really looked into the podcast but is it about archetypes or stereotypes? They are very different words. I feel MM may have muddled the two words in the passage quoted above when she uses the word archetypes.

Hi, what does it mean please?

I thought they wanted privacy?!🤔

And part of the humanizing and the breaking through of these labels and these archetypes and these boxes that we’re put into…

I’m not clear if she means archetype or stereotype 🤔