Meghan Markle Archetype podcast

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Meghan's long-awaited podcast has launched. Sorry if there's a thread about this already. Has anyone listened to it yet? Thoughts?

I think Megan's biggest problem is that she thinks that shes cleverer than she actually is.

She's smart, there's no doubt about it but she's got no substance behind her. As you say - a podcast with Michelle Obama talking about women and ambition? Thats would be phenomenal.

But for all Megan's talk about being a feminist, she literally gave up her career and her life to move the other side of the world to marry a prince.

I think the issue with Harry as well is that if you take away his parentage, you have an upper class man who's not particularly bright and has had everything done for him his whole life. That's not his fault - it's a virtue of birth, but he doesn't seem to acknowledge this. The pair of them want to create a foundation comparable to the Obamas or Bill and Melinda Gates - but they haven't done anything to warrant that level of respect or gratitude.

I get the impression that they want all the accolades and respect without putting in the hard work.

But for all Megan's talk about being a feminist, she literally gave up her career and her life to move the other side of the world to marry a prince.

in a royal family that symbolises aristocracy, nepotism and colonialism! It’s laughable.

Really? So it’s ok for Harry to be a racist cos he had a traumatic childhood, but not ok for PP, who had also had a traumatic childhood. Why is that, exactly?

it is perfectly possible to marry a biracial woman and still think that dressing up as a Nazi or referring to men under your command as a “P**i” is okay.

He was an adult at the time, not a wee kid.

And he didn’t personally apologise for his Nazi costume. There was just an announcement from Clarence House that he realised his costume “was a poor choice”. No shit. A 20 year old man, educated at one of the most expensive schools in the U.K. realises, after the fact, that his choice of costume was totally reprehensible.

Former armed forces minister Doug Henderson MP said the picture showed the prince was "not suitable" for the prestigious royal military academy Sandhurst, which he is due to attend later this year.

"If it was anyone else, the application wouldn't be considered. It should be withdrawn immediately," said the Labour MP for Newcastle upon Tyne North

Really? So it’s ok for Harry to be a racist cos he had a traumatic childhood, but not ok for PP, who had also had a traumatic childhood. Why is that, exactly?

Please read all my posts. You have misunderstood.

That would be the same Joe Rogan who had to remove Spotify eps cos of his racist language? Not sure that is anything to celebrate. Who would keep listening to an admitted racist?

I have.
nobody knows if Harry is still a racist.

It’s a bit rich calling Kate ‘lazy and unaccomplished’ because she does what she does - ie be the wife of the heir to the throne - very well indeed without pretension. But then some people are never satisfied, are they?

I have.

You can't have done. I can't be bothered to explain.

I have no idea. Maybe you can research it? I don't live in the US but he has been top of the Podcasts chart. That's all I know. Not sure where you got I was celebrating Joe Rogan!

@antelopevalley Its an interesting stance to take in attacking Prince Phillip based on “how he treated people” but at the same time apparently supporting Meghan, who has been investigated for bullying allegations…

Yes, he is an admitted racist, as I said in my post.

You said:
to topple Joe Rogan is quite something!

Which certainly sounds like you thought it was something to celebrate.

I think that is a very low bar to judge success by.

I have not supported Meghan.

We know what Philip has said to people. There are many many examples some of which I shared. If you think it is okay to say those things to people you have a very different idea from me of what is acceptable.

There was an investigation into the allegation that Markle bullied staff. The palace refused to release the report. Those are also the facts.

He was a man of his age, who made some dodgy comments which - on the whole, were his attempt to put people at ease.

Having given nearly 80 years of loyal service to the monarchy, I can certainly forgive him a few errors over the decades.

To topple a very popular podcast in the US is what I meant. Something to celebrate for her. No need to try and put a racist spin on it, onto me. Question those that listen to him. I don't.

You call it a low bar. What about the other podcasts in the top 10? I was talking about her being No. 1, that's all. (also in Canada, Ireland, UK, Australia and NZ)

Have you read the examples I posted? He was racist, sexist and extremely rude. Newspapers since at least the 70s had articles about the awful things he said.

Just one example.

"So who's on drugs here?... He looks as if he's on drugs," he said of a 14-year-old boy while at a Bangladeshi youth club in 2002.

Is that racist and rude remark supposed to put a 14-year-old boy at ease? Do you think he would have said that to a white child? Of course not.

He was a dreadful man. Racist, sexist and incredibly rude.

But the same can be said about Harry - yet you have him on a pedestal

This is all spot on.

You need to look at what the man did and what he actually achieved rather than the few remarks picked over by the media. The problem today is people are so quick to latch on to a person’s and dismiss his achievements. Interesting they are usually the sort who do the opposite with Meghan and Harry who appear to have achieved nothing yet demand star billing.

Interesting they are usually the sort who do the opposite with Meghan and Harry who appear to have achieved nothing yet demand star billing.

And get it! As is clear on this thread. I'm genuinely baffled how an elderly man who actually fought in a war against facism, saving multiple lives with his actions during said war and spent his entire life in service to his family and country, can just be dismissed as a nasty man, but Meghan and Harry who have also done and said some really unpleasant things, are respected more and deemed to be better people. Astonishing.

Quite!

Exactly!

But for all Megan's talk about being a feminist,

The Mens Health burger ad would say otherwise.

All of this is bang on. She was a not terribly good actress in an ok show, who married a fairly stupid man who just happened to be born a Prince. And somehow she's held up as a brilliant inspiring example of feminism.

I think people are being quite harsh on MM actually. She has no experience of interviewing and it's a skill that needs to be learned. It's so easy to think of it as a chat and get too involved which is why I think it was a mistake to interview friends. Oprah is a master at it, how she handled both MM and PH to get what was required for each programme shes made with one or both of them was impressive.
I remember watch Lucy Worsleys first episode of her first programme and she was pretty bad. She interrupted too much too. But she learned pretty quickly and I love her now. Same with Neil Oliver. So if she's prepared to take on feedback, (and there has been quite a bit of it in the newspapers both here and abroad! 😕 ), she might very well become more professional. But she has to have a chance to learn. And keep PH out of it. It makes her her look desperate to keep including him.

I think people are being quite harsh on MM actually

Yes, yes, but what about the housing unit thing? Are we supposed to ignore that bare-faced lie?