Unpopular opinions about the royal family

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I am just interested to see your opinions about the royal family. No judgement. And it can be from any royal family, not just the British one.

Those links are a very good indication of how desperate you are to try and discredit someone. And yes, I was aware of the whispers over they years but they were irrelevant then and they’re still irrelevant now.

You really are scraping the barrel with those quotes .
Even if he was/ is bi ( and I have no idea if he is) wtf is it to to do with you ?

The original hint about Edward was from sleepygal, I think:

I don't mind them.

Except for Andrew.
And Princess Michael.
And there's something about Edward they're not telling us.

Would rumours of being bisexual or experimenting with his sexuality when he was younger cause anyone to put him in the same group with Prince Andrew and Princess Michael?
Surely not. I assumed they meant something other than those old insinuations, but perhaps not if antelopevalley thinks that's what they meant.

It seems sad if these days rumours about having possibly experimented with one's sexuality or being bi is seen on a par with sleeping with a trafficked girl like Andrew or wearing/owning racist objects like Princess Michael).

And, no, there's no reason why we should be told anything about that if it were true.

@LaMarschallin
I don't think anyone is suggesting there's anything wrong if the rumours are true about Edward .
It was the possibility of a cover up the original poster was objecting to .
Of course rumours,true or untrue , could just have been a distraction from something actually serious re other royals
That's the usual modus operandi isn't it ?

So that's "the truth about Edward" that "anyone older knows", is it, including such unimpeachable sources as "a Royal fan on Quora" (your first link)😂

Even if he were gay (or more likely bi) so what? His business, Sophie's business and (thankfully) hasn't been a crime for the whole of his adult life.

The problem is one of the girls did an ordinary job and the gutter press wouldn’t leave them alone

Novella4

Oh?
It's helpful of you to explain what other posters mean if they phrase things unfortunately.

@LaMarschallin .

All the original poster said was 'something they are not telling us ' ( yes and the rest!)

Actually it's nananelly ( a royalist I think) who has conflated being gay with being 'discredited'

Exactly.

How do you think they would do that without the media? No one is saying it's fun but it is a very necessary part of their role.

No one is saying don't do press, but the current toxic and manipulative "unspoken arrangement" causes so much damage to all involved.

William could easily do what royals in other countries do, and engage with the press in a minimal and professional way, keep his nose clean and work hard and let his work take focus. He is evidently not scared or intimidated by the press, he has a terrible relationship with the press already, so why not make changes? Look at his history.

William directly lied to the press over the Covid incident leading to half a dozen members of the royal rota tweeting using strong words like "liar" and "cover up" and tweeting that William's lies had "destroyed trust" and "damaged relationships with the press." Royal reporters are the BRF biggest champions and important allies, it's not great that William is already alienating the RRs when he's not even next in line yet.

William's team tried to have Krishnan Guru-Murthy and the C4 news team arrested by telling lies that they were on private property when they weren't in order to stop C4 filming William arriving for secret political meeting in Scotland (when royals are supposed to be apolitical). An unelected statesman threatening a journalist with false arrest to censor the press and cover up secret political meetings is like something out of Communist Russia! So many lies, such corruption.

Not to mention all the reports of threats and legal action to censor any mention of Rose Hanbury, or the extreme response to any coverage Will and Kate don't like such as the Tatler letter, or the petulant statement (reportedly issued without the Queen or Charles' knowledge) over the disastrous Caribbean tour, or the royal aide-sourced articles claiming William will be more assertive in handling the press and as saying "the era of never complain never explain is over."

When the Queen dies things are going to get very messy.

That's disappointing, @StolenWillowTree , I know William has historical reasons to hate the press, but that is disturbing.

Do you know any more about this political meeting he was attending?

Those are very serious allegations . I assume you have credible sources ?

@Readinginthesun
It's all documented on Krishnan Guru Murthy's Twitter .
May 21 I think

Attempts to stop press from filming political meeting in Scotland and censorship of footage:
www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/gordon-brown-prince-william-held-20694780

Krishnan's own tweets about it:
"Tonight : Gordon Brown, who's just launched a campaign to save the Union, just had unpublicised meeting with Prince William. Only politician save Nicola Sturgeon met on Royal visit to Scotland. So sensitive #C4News prevented from airing footage shot from outside palace gates!"
twitter.com/krishgm/status/1397972015097782278

"Kensington Palace have said we were stopped from airing the footage we filmed of Mr Brown in the grounds of Holyrood Palace - not because of sensitivities - but because they claim #C4News was trespassing. Our team were in public place outside gates."
twitter.com/krishgm/status/1397985448266452997

Royal reporter tweets in response to William lying about Covid:

"Prince William’s decision to LIE about contracting COVID-19 earlier - for whatever reason - is appalling. KP were are asked several times by the media whether Prince William had contracted the virus and were told categorically “no”. This has created a serious issue of trust. - Robert Jobson (Evening Standard/GMA) twitter.com/theroyaleditor/status/1323154789178499072

"If the palace is prepared to lie about an issue as serious as Prince William, second in line to the throne, contracting COVID-19 what else have they lied about when questioned by the press and why should the media believe any denials going forward? This raises serious issues." Robert Jobson (Evening Standard/GMA)
pbs.twimg.com/media/El0kvOTWkAEdkfJ?format=jpg&name=small

"If the future King contracts a potentially fatal virus that the entire world is worried about during a lockdown and he and those around him cover it up, that raises serious questions about whether we can trust anything he or his advisers say."
Richard Palmer (Daily Express)
twitter.com/RoyalReporter/status/1323048188811579393

Just two of numerous tweets from members of the Royal Rota using words like "lie" and "cover up" and expressing anger and lack of faith at William's team explicitly saying he had not had Covid when he had.

Wonder what the response will be now I've provided sources. Anyone want to play Royalist Bingo?

1 point for trying to discredit the sources by saying they work for tabloids.
2 points for trying to discredit me and derail the conversation by making some sarky comment along the lines of "you're obviously very overinvested in all this"
3 points for an attempt to derail the conversation and get it away from William by throwing another dead cat in (the Prince Edward stuff is the deadest of deceased felines)
Stand up and yell BINGO if everyone ignores it and acts like I never spoke.

Thank you for the sources

@StolenWillowTree

Your points system is spot on!
I get a lot of multiples of 2 😮

Off with their heads

Those are all articles about people hypothesising that Edward is gay or bi and him saying he's not.
So still none the wiser.

But so what if he is anyway? Its 2022. Gay and bi people are accepted as normal people these days. No big news - we're not in the 1930s.

No3 !

Erm... or someone responding to an earlier comment than yours?

@StolenWillowTree re yours, yes, those are serious indications from respected people that all is not OK and I'm certainly not pooh-poohing them

Actually it's nananelly ( a royalist I think) who has conflated being gay with being 'discredited

Actually it was Antelopevalley with her desperate links.

I have a good mind to report your comment. I said no such thing.
Saying someone may be gay or bisexual is NOT saying they are being discredited. To say that is homophobic.

@NanaNelly the links were posted without comment.

It was you who said the links were an attempt to 'discredit' Edward. Your implication being , whether you realised consciously or not, that being gay is discreditable

No one else had sakd anything of the sort.
It was the suspected 'cover up' that was the issue

Appreciate it, Readinginthesun and CPL593H.