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The royal family

Unpopular opinions about the royal family

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Homehermit · 11/08/2022 15:20

I am just interested to see your opinions about the royal family. No judgement. And it can be from any royal family, not just the British one.

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Maireas · 28/08/2022 13:11

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:10

The same way a Chair of a wildlife conservation charity shoots a tiger.

Well, I'm finding it strange. But hey, it's obviously just me.

AuroraCake · 28/08/2022 13:12

Willi has internalised and accepted his fate. Thatvis his fate. The 18 year old next but one Queen of Norway said recently it is best not to dwell to mi h on what you would have done if you had had a choice, there is little point in it. The fate of the royal institution will one day be his. It isn't a game.
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antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:16

Maireas · 28/08/2022 13:11

Well, I'm finding it strange. But hey, it's obviously just me.

It is not strange once you realise they operate on a mode of being superior to others, so it is a do as I say culture, not a do as I do.
They think the rules do not apply to them, and they are usually right.
So it is not at all strange they champion causes and then do the exact opposite themselves.

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:17

@AuroraCake He could step away from it. But that takes bravery, a lot.

AuroraCake · 28/08/2022 13:27

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:17

@AuroraCake He could step away from it. But that takes bravery, a lot.

He doesn't want to. He has accepted it. If everyone walked away from everything, no-one would do anything. Just because M and H didn't want to do it, doesn't mean everyone else is of the same opinion. He views what he does as important and has committed to it. Commendable just as someone who dispeased it and left would also be commendable. I don't find how M and H went about it commendable though. It was a car crash.

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:32

@AuroraCake If he wants to do it fine. But my point is he is making a choice.

AuroraCake · 28/08/2022 13:36

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:32

@AuroraCake If he wants to do it fine. But my point is he is making a choice.

There is always a choice. What is wrong with his? There is strength and bravery in what he has committed to aswell.

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:40

I do not think there is strength and bravery in deciding to continue on his path to being King. But happy to accept you do.

Novella4 · 28/08/2022 13:40

@AuroraCake
Nonsense. He's free to walk away just as Harry has.
No ie and nothing is stopping him.
Fate? He's only there because his great uncle or whatever he was walked away .

AuroraCake · 28/08/2022 13:43

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:40

I do not think there is strength and bravery in deciding to continue on his path to being King. But happy to accept you do.

Well then they should all just give up? He is obviously happy with his life. People view things differently.

StolenWillowTree · 28/08/2022 13:43

William doesn't need to abdicate to change things. The real problem isn't with royalty inherently, it's the toxic relationship and 'deal' that exists between the BRF and the press (and the Tory government). Other royal families in other countries don't have this problem and their royals work, have careers, and give their children privacy.

If William was brave enough to stand up to the press (and he has been very threatening towards the press and caused a lot of ill will, eg the lying about Covid incident, threatening to get Krishnan Guru-Murthy arrested on false grounds), and said "I'll perform my royal duties and release a photo of my children once a year but nothing more" and then just went and lived quietly outside of London, putting his effort into founding and quietly running real charitable organisations that actually do meaningful work, and let his work speak for itself, he absolutely could do that.

sleepygal · 28/08/2022 13:47

I don't mind them.

Except for Andrew.
And Princess Michael.
And there's something about Edward they're not telling us.

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:47

@StolenWillowTree But they have to co-operate with the press because there is so much dodgy going on. If they behaved themselves and acted like decent people they could stand up to the press. But they do not so need to work with the press to minimise damaging stories.

AuroraCake · 28/08/2022 13:47

Novella4 · 28/08/2022 13:40

@AuroraCake
Nonsense. He's free to walk away just as Harry has.
No ie and nothing is stopping him.
Fate? He's only there because his great uncle or whatever he was walked away .

He was born to be King...the role was mapped. Of course he could walk away but he didn't. He committed to it and accepted it.

I don't see why there is anything wrong with that? It bonkers me. If people have an issue with it then obviously it is an issue with the system. If you have a royal famy someone has to have, and be in line for, the top job.

Ironically it appears one of M and H big issues was they couldn't do whY they want or get coverage for everything because they weren't going to be top dog.

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:49

Harry and Meghan decided to walk away. William could if he wanted to.
He either wants to be King, or is not brave enough to walk away. I do not know which it is.

SpindleInTheWind · 28/08/2022 13:51

William can lawfully abdicate himself, but what about his children?

Novella4 · 28/08/2022 13:52

@AuroraCake

'Well then they should all just give up?'

Yes please !!

AuroraCake · 28/08/2022 14:00

StolenWillowTree · 28/08/2022 13:43

William doesn't need to abdicate to change things. The real problem isn't with royalty inherently, it's the toxic relationship and 'deal' that exists between the BRF and the press (and the Tory government). Other royal families in other countries don't have this problem and their royals work, have careers, and give their children privacy.

If William was brave enough to stand up to the press (and he has been very threatening towards the press and caused a lot of ill will, eg the lying about Covid incident, threatening to get Krishnan Guru-Murthy arrested on false grounds), and said "I'll perform my royal duties and release a photo of my children once a year but nothing more" and then just went and lived quietly outside of London, putting his effort into founding and quietly running real charitable organisations that actually do meaningful work, and let his work speak for itself, he absolutely could do that.

The media is a hugh role everyone with any public facing organisation be it royals or politics. And it an immensely difficult one to navigate. You have to keep the public on side, you want to promote the charities, you don't want yourself pulled apart in the media and you definitely want to keep support for the institution. How do you think they would do that without the media? No one is saying it's fun but it is a very necessary part of their role.

I mean Harry too has to keep interest in himself to sustain his lifestyle. At the moment that interest is only been kept on largely combative and relationship to royal issues. That isn't sustainable either. People get bored and other people become interesting.

Roussette · 28/08/2022 14:01

Maireas · 28/08/2022 13:11

Well, I'm finding it strange. But hey, it's obviously just me.

Strange? I find it diabolical. She should be looking closer to home. I know it's not fair, but that's life. It's like a wife who supports her paedophile husband after a prison sentence, she's shunned. But this family just carry on supporting him, and one of them is the a patron of a charity for trafficked individuals!

She shouldve quietly resigned. Not fair I know, but the daughters begging for the father to re-enter royal duties, means to me they really have not got a clue about the enormity of what he has done in his support of two sex traffickers. He only stepped back when the heat was on and not by choice

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 14:01

Going by the frothing on MN, a combative relationship via Harry and Meghan will continue for a long time yet.

AuroraCake · 28/08/2022 14:02

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 13:49

Harry and Meghan decided to walk away. William could if he wanted to.
He either wants to be King, or is not brave enough to walk away. I do not know which it is.

Or he just accepts it and views it as important.

You make sounding wanting to be King like the War of the Roses. There is a much more nuanced reality about all out lives.

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 14:04

@AuroraCake Nobody these days sacrifices their whole life and the lives of their children for a job they think that matters but do not want to do.
I am sure like everyone else in the world there are bits of his job he does not like, that is life. But overall it must be a job he is happy to do and happy for George to do.

AuroraCake · 28/08/2022 14:05

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 14:01

Going by the frothing on MN, a combative relationship via Harry and Meghan will continue for a long time yet.

I really really hope not. I hope they find success in what they do and have a good life but at the moment everything they do is picked apart. In time hopefuy that won't be the case and it will just the way it is.

AuroraCake · 28/08/2022 14:07

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 14:04

@AuroraCake Nobody these days sacrifices their whole life and the lives of their children for a job they think that matters but do not want to do.
I am sure like everyone else in the world there are bits of his job he does not like, that is life. But overall it must be a job he is happy to do and happy for George to do.

So? To me that is fine. He cant control George though. He only speaks for himself. Bit Geroge will obviously be raised and counselled to have a similar view.

antelopevalley · 28/08/2022 14:08

Agree George will be raised to see the advantages of being King, and there are many.
But George will as you say decide for himself.

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