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Omid has a new book coming out .

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Readinginthesun · 30/07/2022 08:51

What new vitriol will he write ?

Omid has a new book coming out .
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MarshaMelrose · 12/08/2022 16:14

antelopevalley · 12/08/2022 15:46

I was never a fan of Earl Spencer.
I simply want women to be able to speak. There should be no suppression of Dianas voice.
We all know it is being suppressed to protect the Royal Family.
In the same way they tried to suppress the Crown and got told to no way.

How is not broadcasting that 54 minute interview protecting the RF? It's been picked over so many times. She received a lot of condemnation from the public over it. A lot of mockery. But also her line of "three in this marriage" lives on. But it was fuelled by lies and exploitation.
However her book is literally her own words. You can listen to tapes in her voice telling her own story. How is that suppressing her voice? It might be exaggerated or not true, but it's how she remembers it and not how she was manipulated and exploited into thinking about it. That book is critical of the RF. No suppression of that.

Samcro · 12/08/2022 16:17

out of curiosity, how many watched it at the time. (I mean posters on here)
I remember watching it and feeling very sorry for her. I can't remember any condemnation of her at the time. (but it was a long time ago.) still remember her make up though.

Lostinabba · 12/08/2022 16:23

I am old enough to have watched it at the time and felt so so sorry for her.

I admit I am mystified as to how she found Charles attractive. But to me she really seemed to have loved him and wanted her marriage to work.

Samcro · 12/08/2022 16:24

@Lostinabba me to. they did seem an odd pairing. she was my age and he seemed so old.

MarshaMelrose · 12/08/2022 16:30

Paranoid is a mental health diagnosis.

Clinical paranoia is a mental health illness. But lots of people have general paranoia about things without needing a diagnosis. When that becomes problematic enough to get a diagnosis, I don't know. But telling people that your husband is planning to murder you and his girlfriend so he can marry the nanny is surely not normal thinking. I don't know her medical records but I'm happy to accept your assurance she was paranoid without having a clinical diagnosis. It doesn't change anything I've said, though.

MarshaMelrose · 12/08/2022 16:38

Samcro · 12/08/2022 16:17

out of curiosity, how many watched it at the time. (I mean posters on here)
I remember watching it and feeling very sorry for her. I can't remember any condemnation of her at the time. (but it was a long time ago.) still remember her make up though.

I watched it. My over-riding memory was of that heavy eye liner. Must be a tell-all interview thing!
I remember she got a of criticism the next day from tv presenters. Not saying that's representative - there was sympathy but a feeling it was inappropriate. Certainly Meghan received a lot more support for her Oprah interview from the same people. Maybe times are different, or the content was new, or maybe we were just Charles and Diana worn out! Lol. Their splitting seemed to go on forever!

MarshaMelrose · 12/08/2022 16:48

Lostinabba · 12/08/2022 16:23

I am old enough to have watched it at the time and felt so so sorry for her.

I admit I am mystified as to how she found Charles attractive. But to me she really seemed to have loved him and wanted her marriage to work.

I'm sure she loved him. In fact, I think her friends said that she was reluctant to divorce fir a long time because she wanted to try and make it work.
It's been reported they only had 13 dates in person before he proposed. Diana was only 20 and a big reader of Mills and boon books. She must have thought it was a fairy tale romance. I can't imagine how destroyed she felt when she discovered he was still in love with his ex.
I guess it's nice, though, that by the time of her death, she and Charles had established a friendly relationship.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/08/2022 17:04

Once Bashir had her trust, he fed her all sorts of lies which she wanted to believe because they were things she was scared about

Without a doubt, yes, but then "pretending to know something" is how too much of the media operate, which is why I suggested that Meghan with her much wider experience of them may be less likely to get stung

About the Tampax Tapes though, you said that "Those ham operators,appeared in the newspapers. They approached the newspapers themselves" and I just wondered if this means they were identified ... because I honestly didn't think they had been?

ajandjjmum · 12/08/2022 17:15

I also find it manipulative that certain posters (who are well known for hating Harry and taking any opportunity to bash him) keep shoehorning Harry's name in, I wonder what their agenda is?

If this is directed at me, I am including both William and Harry in my comments, because I think this is the one area where they would agree - they both loved and adored their Mum, and would both want to protect her legacy. No shoehorning. Just how I see it. On this one issue they would be total agreement.

ajandjjmum · 12/08/2022 17:19

MarshaMelrose · 12/08/2022 16:48

I'm sure she loved him. In fact, I think her friends said that she was reluctant to divorce fir a long time because she wanted to try and make it work.
It's been reported they only had 13 dates in person before he proposed. Diana was only 20 and a big reader of Mills and boon books. She must have thought it was a fairy tale romance. I can't imagine how destroyed she felt when she discovered he was still in love with his ex.
I guess it's nice, though, that by the time of her death, she and Charles had established a friendly relationship.

I also read that they'd only met a dozen times. Incredible, isn't it!

With regard to Diana's latter years, did you read about when Charles landed a helicopter at Kensington Palace, and had phoned ahead to ask Diana if he could use the toilet. As he left, she shouted 'same time, next week?' out of the window. Be nice if it was true, and they had reached a friendly balance in their relationship. Grin

MarshaMelrose · 12/08/2022 17:44

About the Tampax Tapes though, you said that "Those ham operators,appeared in the newspapers. They approached the newspapers themselves" and I just wondered if this means they were identified ... because I honestly didn't think they had been?

Cyril Reenan. There was a big two page spread in the Sun or News of the World with pictures of him.

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squidgygate&ved=2ahUKEwiM6deu38H5AhWFQkEAHUIoAtEQFnoECAgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw30kWV6Yp5pP-x9v9fLoiBI

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/6562946.man-taped-diana-dies-82/&ved=2ahUKEwiGkdHL38H5AhXXQUEAHTdvCW4QFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1qAqQ420h0SZVoVYN1bzZO

MarshaMelrose · 12/08/2022 17:47

With regard to Diana's latter years, did you read about when Charles landed a helicopter at Kensington Palace, and had phoned ahead to ask Diana if he could use the toilet. As he left, she shouted 'same time, next week?' out of the window. Be nice if it was true, and they had reached a friendly balance in their relationship.

😂😂😂 I'd never read that but it does sound like the sort of fun thing she'd say and do! It's so sad that they had to rip each other to pieces to get that point but, ultimately, nice that they did.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/08/2022 17:49

Thanks, Marsha, and it's totally my own fault; somehow I'd completely missed that Blush
Just so long as he doesn't want a job with Charles anytime soon ...

Teentaxidriver · 12/08/2022 17:54

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MarshaMelrose · 12/08/2022 18:05

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/08/2022 17:49

Thanks, Marsha, and it's totally my own fault; somehow I'd completely missed that Blush
Just so long as he doesn't want a job with Charles anytime soon ...

He's dead, puzzled, so I think he'd be a very poor worker. 😂 Oh no, cue conspiracy theories that Charles or Philip had him bumped off. 😉

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/08/2022 18:08

He's dead, so I think he'd be a very poor worker

Oops!! Blush Grin

Then again, at least from where he is now he wouldn't have to listen to Charles whining ...

Maireas · 13/08/2022 09:22

Lostinabba · 12/08/2022 16:23

I am old enough to have watched it at the time and felt so so sorry for her.

I admit I am mystified as to how she found Charles attractive. But to me she really seemed to have loved him and wanted her marriage to work.

She was raised in that aristocratic circle to marry well. Charles was the heir to the throne and a major catch. She was absolutely thrilled to bits, I remember the early days and she seemed so happy, loving the situation.
She was no shy teenage wallflower.

ajandjjmum · 13/08/2022 09:25

I think she was a sweet young woman, thinking she was living a fairytale. With maturity and experience, she wouldn't have made that mistake - but I'm sure we can all relate to that!

Lostinabba · 13/08/2022 17:16

@Maireas yes I forget Charles was a real 'catch' then.

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Readinginthesun · 13/08/2022 21:30

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That’s a serious accusation . Do you have a source ?

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MarshaMelrose · 13/08/2022 21:31

(Dianas brother) went and hired some apartheid police to be his mercenaries so they can try a coup of an African county.

Charles attempted a coup of an African country? Woah. I've never heard that. What happened? I e so many questions.

notanotheroneagain · 13/08/2022 21:54

I've just asked MNHQ to remove my own post.
I read that in a South African newspaper during the Mark Tatcher scandal. Charles was living in SA at that time and was linked to it all. I cannot find anything in British papers about it, so cannot prove it. So not really fair for me to point it out when the internet cannot prove it, especially as he was not jailed himself.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/08/2022 21:59

Readinginthesun it was actually Simon Mann who was jailed for 7 years in the "attempted coup" case, and Mark Thatcher who was charged with helping to bankroll it: www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-30165895.html

I'm not sure what the connection with Earl Spencer's supposed to be, beyond the fact he lived in Constantia too ... sounds like more Twitter rubbish to me, but I know some regard it as the fount of all knowledge

notanotheroneagain · 13/08/2022 22:07

It's not twitter nonsense, as it was reported in a newspaper at the time, no twitter back then. They were all friends in an 'old boys' way. So the SA papers linked Charles with it all. They had no proof in the end as he was not convicted like the other ones.