Harry's speech at the UN

[KatharineofAragon]

Just what is going on? Why does Harry think he is qualified to pronounce on various political matters in another country? Why is he invited and who cares what he thinks? Am I the only one thinking he is behaving like a total numpty?

Definitely not UNGA - this year's openss on 13 September. Is it really being misrepresented as such?

Of course the country's at the UN Mandela event will also be UNGA members - so scope to weasel word.

Why was the auditorium almost empty when Harry delivered his speech?
I don't get that.

It was like this for everyone. Break.

Agreed it is not UNGA, has anyone said it was?
The UN operates throughout the year, not just during the ten days for UNGA.

www.un.org/events/97691

I think the future King and his family can't really fly on a commercial airline They need to take staff on official engagements and the security arrangements would be a nightmare even on personal trips. Harry is a private citizen now. He makes a big deal of talking about climate change yet makes absolutely no personal sacrifices. He doesn't need to take private jets or drive in huge SUVs. He chooses to do so.

I think it was just classified as an informal meeting so I suppose people on holiday didn't feel the need to go.

The BS is your statement that is full of lies.

They never invited themselves, they were invited. The Fail made some enquiries. Did you not hear the address from the president of the GA right at the beginning , he said its was an informal meeting and Harry was the Keynote speaker.

Here is a list of the people that have spoken previously. Prince Harry's name will join that list and there is nothing you can do about it.

Meghan has addressed the UN at a separate time.

I am not interested in any of them talking about climate change, including William with his Earthshot prize.

Don't know where you got your rule, since the same William has flown on 'commercial'. remember ? Something about budget airline.

As for Harry, his whole organisation is Travelyst which deals with offsetting, and that is what he does.

Anyway, no need to go on about it now, he flew commercial.

notanotheroneagain- their PR company asked for him to speak and made a large donation to make it happen. I'm sorry if that gets you so worked up, but it's the truth.

How do you know this? I haven't read this anywhere online.

I also never read wha you are saying anywhere.

It looks like you are the one worked up that about him being invited at this level.

I'm not remotely worked up😂but due to my job, I have facts about the matter that you clearly don't.

Just read that attachment. So the Mandela Foundation didn't just look at who they'd like to address the meeting from all the people in the world? There was already some sort of leadership project happening between the Sussexes and the Foundation so from that they asked him to if he'd like to give the speech based on the fact they were working together. So really as a way to boost publicity and a tie in for their joint project when it's announced.
Actually that makes so much more sense and seems very sensible. A win-win for both of them.

And if @stilldazed is correct, maybe the Archewell Findation is funding the project. Hence the donation? But of course they might not be correct.

I don't know how they choose normally. But the foundation works with a lot of people, does not mean an automatic invite. Also, some of those invited, do not necessarily have project with the foundation.

I don't think Harry has done the Mandela Foundation any favours with that lacklustre speech to be fair. It looked like he just didn't want to be there. He's not usually the best speaker but this speech was pretty emotionally flat and seemed unrehearsed.

I don't know what normally happens. Maybe in other cases they do scan the world and invite people they think are best placed to give the message. But that's not the case here. It's your own attachment that says they've been invited as part of that project.
Harrys speech was given "in the context of the Foundation already working with their company (...)” a spokesman for the foundation said on Tuesday.

I don't see why that's problem, by the way. It just explains why they invited him. Because I couldn't see his relevance before. His mum meeting Mandela for a couple of hours? But their foundations doing business, and in particular If Archewell is funding the joint project (don't know if that's true, though), that clarifies the motivation.

I don't think he wrote it, tbh. Because he made a couple of jokes but just read them flatly as if he didn't realise they were jokes. And then he quoted a section of Mandelas book as if they were his own words. It was a bit strange. I don't think there's anything wrong with someone else writing your speech but you then have to really rehearse it to nail it and make changes to bits that don't work for you. Harry has been a good, motivating speaker in the past so I'm sure he would have rehearsed this. And Meghan is a good speaker so she'd have advised him. But I don't get what happened. Maybe nerves? Maybe that was why he didn't want to be touched before the speech, which also seemed out of character?

Purely for press coverage, I imagine.

And then he quoted a section of Mandelas book as if they were his own words.

Please do quote this plagiarism you are accusing him of.

As for the rest of your analysis, I have only heard similar from extreme right wing. The rest of the opinions, especially more relevantly from black SA (yep, black and white people tend to have very different views over there in general, something to do with the history), they were full of praise for the speech. He was not reading, you are making that up too.

No, he didn't plagiarise it. 😂😂😂😂 He quoted the book. He didn't pass it off as his own words. But the way he presented them made it sound like it was part if his speech. It's not that he stole the words, just that his presentation of them was strange. It just didn't seem like he and the speech was in harmony. That's all.

Extreme right wing? I only said that he can be a good speaker but this wasn't that good probably because of nerves. I've been very supportive of him speaking there and haven't mentioned anything about content. How does that me extreme right wing. 🤷 🤔

Didn't say you were any kind of politics. Just saying your observations of the speech echo what I saw from the sort online. Could be bingo card of the same phrases used. 🤷 🤔

Hey, nota, it was a poster on here who told me to go and watch the speech, so I did. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. I thought the presentation was muted and flat. I made no comment on the content but if you're asking I thought it was uninsightful but inoffensive. I have no idea why anyone would complain about anything he said. I do understand why people might query why he was asked to speak. Your own attachment explains why.

It's inevitable when you say that you " have only heard similar from extreme right wing" that a person would infer they are being lumped in with them. By the way, I don't know whether if a writer I read is extreme right wing or not. Do they declare that somewhere? I've only read two opinion pieces by Tonya Russell and Zeeshan Aleem. Neither seem extreme right wing to me; both criticised him for speaking; neither of them seemed particularly insightful to me either.

I have never criticised Harry for speaking or for what he's said. I've defended his attendance to others. All I've said is that his presentation was poor when he can be quite good so it was strange. If you want to make some sort offended bingo game out of that, then you go for it.

I sometimes think that people on here are constantly look for or expecting criticism so they just attack anything and anyone who says it.

www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1644040/prince-harry-united-nations-address-nelson-mandela/amp

Agree with this totally.