Harry's speech at the UN

[KatharineofAragon]

Just what is going on? Why does Harry think he is qualified to pronounce on various political matters in another country? Why is he invited and who cares what he thinks? Am I the only one thinking he is behaving like a total numpty?

It is odd he thought it was fitting for him to make a speech. He no longer represents the royal family. That is what they do make speeches. But Harry stepped back from that. So how on earth is this man qualified in any way to make a speech go the UN. It's bizarre,

It is odd he thought it was fitting for him to make a speech

He was asked. He didn't force himself on them. He was asked as someone they wanted to make the speech, I doubt he would've snubbed them by refusing. It's best if you question the on this, not him, if it's troubling to you.

@notanotheroneagain I didn't even see him look at notes for his speech.

Don't those clear transparent screens, like the one slightly to the right side of the lectern (that's Harry's right, our left), act as an autocue? I know they used to do so, but I don't know if they still do.

He no longer represents the royal family

The titles obscure that very fact, though, do they not?

That's quite a conundrum for him. What to do? There is a solution. Why doesn't the Prince Duke take the lead and relinquish both titles himself? He can make an announcement that he no longer wants to be a Prince or a Duke but is Just Harry. How could anyone argue with that?

Probably because people take the piss out of him when he actually has said just call me Harry.

p.s. He can't relinquish his Titles without an Act of Parliament. Just so's you know.

Regardless of what he said to an almost empty room, I wonder why he looked so miserable. All the cheesy grins seem to have gone. Yes it was a serious <quiet> event, I didn't expect him cracking jokes at the lecturn but he looks so troubled doesn't he. I hope he's getting support in LA from an actual therapist.

p.s. He can't relinquish his Titles without an Act of Parliament. Just so's you know

Can he not insist?

Are we so inhuman as to keep calling him Prince when even the man himself insists that he is relinquishing the titles? Won't that reflect badly on us? After all, letting him out of the RF was, apparently, a humane thing to do. I am confident that a way can be found.

All he needs to do is stop using them. Ask others not to use them . Simple.

Can he not insist?

That's a very naive question. Of course he can't. They can only be removed by an Act of Parliament, voted on. There are a ot of constitutional hurdles.
I suppose he could storm Parliament and throw flour from the viewing gallery and shout a lot ... that's a thought. Not sure it would go down too well, or would it?

I am confident that a way can be found.

😂

Yes, he can choose not to use it, but why should he? prince andrew and duchess of york springs to mind

After all, letting him out of the RF was, apparently, a humane thing to do

What does this mean? He served for 10 years.

'All he needs to do is stop using them. Ask others not to use them . Simple.'

Exactly. We don't need acts of parliament for him to say to hosts 'please don't my titles just say Harry'. Unfortunately the royal bit is needed for his Netflix paycheck. It must be a horrid dilemma for him.

The Duchess of Kent is known as Katherine ; still has her title but chooses not to use it .
it can be done without Acts of Parliament.

That's a very naive question. Of course he can't

Really? The RF and rest of world have no form in rule-changing? Poor Harry.

On a serious note, the farce has to stop. He must do the decent thing. There should be a public call for him to relinquish both titles just as the same conversation is happening about PA. Now that would make him an asset to the UK.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/prince-harry-should-stop-lecturing-americans

The Spectator

Oof

The anger is growing, not subsiding. All eyes on the RF.

Really? The RF and rest of world have no form in rule-changing? Poor Harry

What do you mean by the rest of the world? It's laws, constitutions, Acts of Parliaments, and legislation. Removal of a Title can only be done by a statute passed by firstly HoC, then HoL, and then the Monarch would approve it. Much like she gives Royal Assent to laws.

On a serious note, the farce has to stop. He must do the decent thing. There should be a public call for him to relinquish both titles just as the same conversation is happening about PA. Now that would make him an asset to the UK

A public call 🤣. There is far more call by the public for PA to have his removed, he has done far far worse and damaged the RF throughout the world, and that ain't happening. Nor will it happen for Harry. Because if his was removed the spotlight would be shone on PA big time. And the Queen and RF really don't want that.

I have no idea why people are so worked up about it. He'll always be closely related to the Monarch and known for that.

I think the recent Roe vs Wade decision is deplorable and a stain on a civilised society. However I wouldn’t expect people in the USA (I’m British) to pay any heed to my opinions on the matter, and I equally fail to see why they would listen to Harry’s.

This is the thing. Really, why on earth WOULD he think anyone in America is going to sit up and listen to his opinions? I just don't get it.

I'm so glad he thinks repealing Roe V Wade is a horrendous act and so many famous people have spoken out against it. Why shouldn't he.

If I was famous and lived in the US, I'd be shouting it from the rooftops.

Contraception next.

She gave piano lessons under the name of Mrs. Kent - many of her pupils didn't know she was a Duchess.

Princess Patricia of Connaught (who was also the grandchild of a sovereign) was able to give up her titles in 1919.

King George V signed a warrant granting his cousin “his royal licence and authority” that she could “relinquish the style of Royal Highness and the title of Princess of Great Britain and Ireland” upon her marriage.

why is it different for Harry?

Because of laws. That was over a century ago. You can google and find out I'm sure.
I remeber reading something about some constitutional law or other.

I have googled and couldn’t find anything.

that’s why I asked.

perhaps you can help?

Then relinquish the titles, H, so that nobody makes the mistake of thinking that you are representing the UK when you speak. The man could start a war! Absolute liability.

I really don't want to go down a rabbit hole on Friday Wine night but... from an expert in Constitutional Law

He explained the difficulties with the Queen choosing to remove them and said: "The monarch is not the guardian of the constitution and all major decisions are routed through Parliament.
"This is true even of the many of the key elements relating to royalty.
"The Queen cannot remove titles or peerage, that can only be done by statute, passed by both the House of Commons and the House of Lords, and receiving royal assent, which means the agreement of the Queen."

There's also something about the Deprivation Act of 1917. But a glass of calls

It is out there on google but you have to dig and delve and put pieces together.