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Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

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SmileyFaces12 · 13/07/2022 10:49

It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/07/2022 12:30

Lots of the sources are saying how caring and empathetic she i

I've only read the excerpts, but for something that's alleged to be a hatchet job that sounds pretty fair; after all it's usual for folk to have different experiences of someone else, and at least it appears to offer a bit of balance

It's always seemed to me that problems arise from assuming everyone's either a slavish admirer or a hater, and IME life just isn't like that

On the "will she sue?" thing, I agree with Roussette that it can just pour fuel on the flames, but that's often not stopped them before - and it does sound a bit like getting the excuses for them in first

MaulPerton · 23/07/2022 12:38

Their modus operandi is two-fold: the legal route and the public revelations route. Arguably, the latter is far messier. They will choose one, but which?

Roussette · 23/07/2022 12:41

I imagine they won't say a word on it.

Which... to detractors... means it's all true. "Look, they haven't sued! It must be true!!"

So in that case, Meghan has hired surrogates and carried round rebirth dolls pretending they were her babies Grin

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/07/2022 12:57

MaulPerton I guess the choice will depend on whether what Bower's written is true or not, and that's something Meghan will certainly know regardless of what the rest of us think

If it is true - and on his past form that would appear more likely than not - she could make an utter fool of herself by going legal, not least because her earlier "misleading" would inevitably be dragged up again. If on the other hand it's not true, and she can prove it, I wouldn't blame her in the least for suing him, because absolutely nobody should have lied printed about them, no matter how economical with the truth they've been in the past

Herbaceousborder · 23/07/2022 13:13

I'm listening to it on audible and it's certainly very interesting. Harry's future seems more uncertain than ever and what a pity he wasn't just left in the army where he obviously was at his happiest.

Readinginthesun · 23/07/2022 13:25

So in that case, Meghan has hired surrogates and carried round rebirth dolls pretending they were her babies

As far as I am aware there is no suggestion of surrogates in Bower’s book ? I understood that the thread was to discuss the contents of the book not rumours on SM ?

derxa · 23/07/2022 14:12

Readinginthesun · 23/07/2022 13:25

So in that case, Meghan has hired surrogates and carried round rebirth dolls pretending they were her babies

As far as I am aware there is no suggestion of surrogates in Bower’s book ? I understood that the thread was to discuss the contents of the book not rumours on SM ?

Who in their right mind thinks that meghan had surrogates or rebirth dolls. Why can't she and Harry count their blessings. They have good health and a lovely family. Why do they fight the whole world? If I were them I would sink into obscurity and enjoy life.

Serenster · 23/07/2022 14:18

Roussette · 23/07/2022 10:29

there is no evidence she worked there. A store saying she worked there after sales increased 400% - I’d take that with a pinch of salt 🤔 No store is going to deny something that increases their sales

Good grief. The store are lying. In public on Twitter. I would've thought their reputation was worth far more than lying about that.

What a reach. I'm not confused about that.

I don’t know if the hyperbole is helpful. I wouldn’t say the store is “lying”. I think they probably thought “Hey, MM says she used to work here, we can work with that!”. The same way that Pizza Express’ twitter feed was making jokes about Prince Andrew allegedly eating at their Woking branch.

Do I think Humphrey Yogurt went and checked (or even retain!) employment records of their casual staff from the 1990s? I do not. I therefore don’t think the tweet can be seen as “proof” of anything.

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 23/07/2022 14:27

Readinginthesun · 23/07/2022 13:25

So in that case, Meghan has hired surrogates and carried round rebirth dolls pretending they were her babies

As far as I am aware there is no suggestion of surrogates in Bower’s book ? I understood that the thread was to discuss the contents of the book not rumours on SM ?

For some reason, an awful lot of posters who aren’t interested in actually reading the book are determined to post about anything else at all.

Readinginthesun · 23/07/2022 14:38

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So in that case, Meghan has hired surrogates and carried round rebirth dolls pretending they were her babies

As far as I am aware there is no suggestion of surrogates in Bower’s book ? I understood that the thread was to discuss the contents of the book not rumours on SM ?

By the way , my post was directed at @Roussette

TreePoser · 23/07/2022 14:39

Obviously the book is not going to go in to lunatic conspiracies.

In the book, some of the things Tom Bower judges her for, I'm not feeling the same level of judgement he does and I imagine a lot of women will feel the same. I do think Meghan has behaved in ways that haven't served her since she met Harry so not a huge fan of hers but for example Tom Bower says how she didn't want to model for Reitmans because it only paid 15,000 per day for three days filming and after tax she'd get about 21,000 canadian dollars and that could / would have an affect on her brand, which she wished to be higher end than Reitmans.

OK, I get that! It's a business conundrum. It makes sense to weigh things up, think about where you're headed and ask if short term decisions will impact upon longer term aspirations. So I don't judge her for wondering if modelling for reitmans would damage her chances of getting bigger better contracts later.

Other things, like Elizabeth Nyamayaro not making the introductions MM requested and not giving her the positions she applied for, and Emma Watson rejecting the opportunity to meet her............ I kind of admire how MM has never let the rejections deter her. She described the women who rejected her as mentors. I think she is a bit of a narcissist but many successful men are bigger narcissists and it goes completely noticed.

Listening now I'm just reminded that she is very ambitious. All wrong for Harry, but being ambitious and having conflicted feelings about modelling for reitmans aren't portraying her THAT badly imo.

So far.

Roussette · 23/07/2022 14:50

Serenster · 23/07/2022 14:18

I don’t know if the hyperbole is helpful. I wouldn’t say the store is “lying”. I think they probably thought “Hey, MM says she used to work here, we can work with that!”. The same way that Pizza Express’ twitter feed was making jokes about Prince Andrew allegedly eating at their Woking branch.

Do I think Humphrey Yogurt went and checked (or even retain!) employment records of their casual staff from the 1990s? I do not. I therefore don’t think the tweet can be seen as “proof” of anything.

You think one thing.

I think different.

That's the nature of a forum.

I doubt very much a reputable company would tweet that someone worked for them. When they hadn't

We'll agree to disagree on that one, because, hey... we can't have Meghan or the Company telling the truth can we! Not sure my view and answer was 'hyperbole' but there you go

As far as I am aware there is no suggestion of surrogates in Bower’s book ? I understood that the thread was to discuss the contents of the book not rumours on SM ?

I never said it was in the book?
I was you know... illustrating a point... about Meghan bringing lawsuits about lies out there.

Threads meander in all sorts of ways.

Meanderings · 23/07/2022 14:58

Another glowing claim out of Bower's book. Once again, how is this supposed to make Meghan look bad?!

Long-serving aide to the Queen reportedly claimed Prince Harry and Meghan’s marriage would ‘all end in tears’

Lady Hussey, a lady-in-waiting to Her Majesty, allegedly made comment before the pair’s wedding, new book by Tom Bower claims

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/07/21/long-serving-aide-queen-reportedly-claimed-prince-harry-meghans/

Meanderings · 23/07/2022 15:01

MaulPerton · 23/07/2022 12:38

Their modus operandi is two-fold: the legal route and the public revelations route. Arguably, the latter is far messier. They will choose one, but which?

I know you lot here are DESPERATE for acknowledgement from the Sussexes re Bower's book. He's getting none. H&M will continue to pay the book absolute dust, just like they ignored Tina Brown's and Colin Campbell.

Roussette · 23/07/2022 15:03

Well.... she sounds like a right charmer, doesn't she? How vile to say someone's marriage is going to end in tears, before they have even married.

I've met her son, James Hussey. He was a rude obnoxious individual.

Roussette · 23/07/2022 15:05

Meanderings · 23/07/2022 15:01

I know you lot here are DESPERATE for acknowledgement from the Sussexes re Bower's book. He's getting none. H&M will continue to pay the book absolute dust, just like they ignored Tina Brown's and Colin Campbell.

My point exactly.

How excited certain elements of the press and the population would be if there was a court case or a suing.
Ain't happening.
As I said upthread, they will turn the other cheek.

Samcro · 23/07/2022 15:06

how many times has the author of the Book met Meghan?

Meanderings · 23/07/2022 15:09

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/07/2022 12:30

Lots of the sources are saying how caring and empathetic she i

I've only read the excerpts, but for something that's alleged to be a hatchet job that sounds pretty fair; after all it's usual for folk to have different experiences of someone else, and at least it appears to offer a bit of balance

It's always seemed to me that problems arise from assuming everyone's either a slavish admirer or a hater, and IME life just isn't like that

On the "will she sue?" thing, I agree with Roussette that it can just pour fuel on the flames, but that's often not stopped them before - and it does sound a bit like getting the excuses for them in first

Pray tell, when have H&M sued over a biography?

It's utter fiction and will be ignored. As it should.

Meanderings · 23/07/2022 15:13

Samcro · 23/07/2022 15:06

how many times has the author of the Book met Meghan?

He hasn't and never will.

The man is a hateful POS who called her names for smiling outside of a car window.

He admitted that he couldn't get near her inner circle because he's a known hack.

Buckingham Palace and Clarence House have distanced himself from a couple of claims.

Chopping up statements from a different context to put into others, citing info from court documents as though he sourced a quote from Meghan. The Book is an utter joke 😀

Meanderings · 23/07/2022 15:16

Roussette · 23/07/2022 15:05

My point exactly.

How excited certain elements of the press and the population would be if there was a court case or a suing.
Ain't happening.
As I said upthread, they will turn the other cheek.

They would LOVE it. Piers Morgan kept asking if H&M's lawyers had gotten in touch, so did GMB and another show I can't remember.

Bower was saying, not yet not yet. He's gagging for it 😂

This book is tame and weak sauce compared to Colin Campbell's deranged book.

NEXT!

Roussette · 23/07/2022 15:20

They would LOVE it. Piers Morgan kept asking if H&M's lawyers had gotten in touch, so did GMB and another show I can't remember

That's hilarious! I can't read Piers Morgan's ranting about her anymore as he's blocked me 😂
It's a badge of honour AFAIC

Meanderings · 23/07/2022 15:33

Roussette · 23/07/2022 15:03

Well.... she sounds like a right charmer, doesn't she? How vile to say someone's marriage is going to end in tears, before they have even married.

I've met her son, James Hussey. He was a rude obnoxious individual.

This is why I call Tom Bower dense. What new couple wants to be surrounded by people making comments like this about a marriage that's yet to begin.

Or 'friends' calling her future husband names.

Same with his claim about the Queen's thank goodness quip.

What a picture of hostility to paint.

Samcro · 23/07/2022 15:37

@Meanderings Thanks. so he had no first hand knowledge. sounds like something you read in heat.

MissMarpleRocks · 23/07/2022 15:42

My take from what I’ve read so far is that Meghan comes off quite well.

Stands up to old Etonians & their horrid attitudes, is ambitious & doesn’t favour people who don’t have her back. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that.

Wasn’t a great fan of hers (OW) but I’m liking what I’m reading about her so far.

IMO Harry is coming off as immature & spoilt.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/07/2022 15:50

Pray tell, when have H&M sued over a biography?

I didn't say either of them had sued over a biography ...?

Whether Meghan will so it this time is anyone's guess, but with people who appear to relish any kind of publicity - though preferably that which they've controlled - I'm really not convinced that any reluctance to sue would be because of the fuss it would create

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