Why did Harry and Meghan walk in alone?

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I have had a very busy weekend so have only been able to catch snippets of the jubilee weekend events but noticed how Harry and Meghan walked into the service together, seemingly after everybody else, including those sitting in front and behind them?
Why was this? I understand why they didn't walk in with the serving royals but it seemed strange that their entrance stood out so much.

Ha! Perhaps!
They've now arrive back in LA with what seems to be a swing set similar to the one P Charles gave William. The racists won't like this. They will start looking for other reasons why they have those gifts.

I imagine they didn't want to go at all and I did it only to see the queen. Nothing to do with wills and that rubbish spouted above but because Harry wanted to go for his grandmother and to introduce his daughter to her.

Whatever they did would be scrutinised and criticised so they stayed out of the public eye as much as they could.

The vitriol and utter nonsense about Meghan wearing a mic and Netflix really shows that they did the right thing in leaving the UK.

As an aside their daughter is adorable in the recent photos.

It’s not really vitriol to speculate if she was wearing a mic or not. That’s a pretty big exaggeration.

I’ve seen footage of them being booed at events they’ve attended in the US so I suspect they are used to it. I don’t know if they were booed at St Paul’s or not because the bells were so loud!

I'm not a fan and think they have done some appalling things in the past. Despite that, I think they handled the jubilee very well. They came over, they were seen at a few key events and left. No fuss or drama, nothing to give ammunition to stories that they're trying to steal the limelight. They were never going to win with the press but they've given them very little to criticise.

It’s not really vitriol to speculate if she was wearing a mic or not. That’s a pretty big exaggeration.

Nasty, then. But I do think that vitriol is fair considering that it's a part of a social media pile-on and furthermore, pure speculation with no evidence whatsoever.

It is nastiness uttered only by those who are nasty themselves.

What is even the point in saying you don’t know if they were booed because the bells were so loud. Why not say you don’t know if Eugenie and Beatrice were booed because the bells were so loud? Or Camilla? It is just getting another spiteful comment in.

They were invited. They went. Everything went well. They left. Move on. Concentrate on the jubilee itself if you so dislike H&M. If you can’t be kind, say nothing at all.

Some people commented on this thread that they were booed. I watched the footage and I don’t think you can tell because the bells were so loud. I did read that some people booed when they left because a large bus was parked between them and the door so their view was blocked, so they were booing the bus because they couldn’t see Harry & Meghan.

They are shooting a documentary with Netflix, so some people speculated that she was wearing a mic as her coat front looked a little lumpy. I have no idea if she was wearing a mic or not, but I don’t think it’s a big deal either way. It’s a public event after all.

There are some crazy people on this thread who are determined to make something out of nothing, so I will respectively bow out.

Apparently their car was late arriving. As mentioned, these things are timed to the minute so them arriving late meant they got to their seats after the York Sisters, hence the awkwardness with everyone having to get up.

It was not so much that they issued invites to the birthday party and were rudely snubbed.
Who would let their children attend an open house party when they might innocently say something which could end up in a scathing documentary (apart from the two royal babies at the pre-speaking stage with fully briefed nannies)?

Unfortunately, it is impossible to build bridges within a family where there are so many unresolved issues and tensions (let alone under the glare of a Netflix camera trying to capture muck raking as well as a scathing book in the pipeline).

Yes, having seen two articles in the DM today I think maybe you're right @Forinara. I'd assumed that they were choosing not to go things, but these articles clearly stated (presumably on good authority), that H&M hadn't been invited to most things and that they'd been deliberately kept away from senior members of the RF.

If that's the case, then I think the courtiers played a blinder. Not only did they protect Charles, William and Kate from having private conversations repeated on US TV shows, but they made sure that H&M basically went home empty-handed. No photos of them with the Queen or any senior royals, no gossip for them to repeat, not even any pictures of them looking glam and like they're having a great time. The only photos of them are of Meghan in that ugly grey coat and Harry looking anxious in his suit at St Paul's. A photo of the Queen with Lilibet would have been worth serious money, but their request for a private photographer to record the event was apparently turned down. So they've gone home with nothing they can sell!

Must be utterly bizarre to have two members of your family that cannot be trusted to be around in case they sell your conversations or photos to the US press.
Having to second guess their motives all the time. It’s sad for the Sussex kids too growing up without their cousins to play with. All the other cousins seems to have great bonds.

My thoughts exactly. I think they’ve behaved impeccably over the weekend

You really believe all that tabloid bs don't you.

You really believe all that tabloid bs don't you.

No, not necessarily, which is why I clearly said 'If that's true ...'

Charles speaks to the press as do K+W - or are rules different for them? Harry only followed his father's footsteps.
What about the others who sell titles, citizenship etc? Surely that's worse. Or do we only reserve contempt for H+M?

Does anyone know for sure if the Queen and Prince Charles met with their grandchildren over the weekend?

And is the assumption that they didn’t meet with W&K?

If so is that where the rift is rather than with his father and grandmother.

It also seemed that H&M were on very good friendly terms with their cousins which was nice to see.

Don’t forget the photos of M & H through the rolled down car window.

If that's the case, then I think the courtiers played a blinder. Not only did they protect Charles, William and Kate from having private conversations repeated on US TV shows, but they made sure that H&M basically went home empty-handed. No photos of them with the Queen or any senior royals, no gossip for them to repeat, not even any pictures of them looking glam and like they're having a great time. The only photos of them are of Meghan in that ugly grey coat and Harry looking anxious in his suit at St Paul's. A photo of the Queen with Lilibet would have been worth serious money, but their request for a private photographer to record the event was apparently turned down. So they've gone home with nothing they can sell!

Are you feeling alright? This is your spin on a visit. I understood they had particularly wanted to be low key because they knew it was all about HMQ, so that would put paid to all your nastiness.
'ugly grey coat'? Are you always like this about other womens' clothes? If you are, I'm glad I don't know you. Horrible.
Would you be kind enough to link to something other than the DM that they requested a private photographer?

I haven't read that anywhere.
Your post is unpleasant and nasty, hope it makes you feel good

Good to see them over here looking so happy and content. They did it exactly the right way but unfortunately it still means threads with vitriolic insults on MN don't stop.

This is not discussion, it's obsessive hatred of a couple by certain posters, I imagine it's because the visit went so well (which really must rankle) and there was nothing to criticise them for, so you have to make stuff up

In fairness, releasing statements to the press about events and public affairs is not really the same as going on Oprah to slag off your family to millions of viewers around the world, spouting a load of half-truths and muttering allegations of racism without actually naming anyone which has the effect of putting them ALL in line for criticism....not to mention whatever is in Harry's upcoming book.

Harry has talked at length about how badly the media treat the royal family and awful the effect is - so he will have been keenly aware of the effect the Oprah interview will have had on them. A lot of the vitriol directed at the royal family comes directly from the things said in that interview. And he knew that would happen - but didn't give a shit.

Oprah didn't critically challenge anything they said, even when they were big contradictions or things which clearly weren't true. As a result, people - especially in the US who have little knowledge of our constitution - have taken it as gospel. There may well be elements of truth but it's wrapped up in a spiteful desire for revenge and a load of exaggeration and lies so who knows what is actually true and what isn't..... H & M have shown that they have a loose relationship with the truth, as evidenced by Meghan committing perjury in court and having to apologise for a blatant lie when she got caught.

I actually thought H & M going to lead their best life away from the royal family was a lovely idea initially. But the Oprah interview changed everything for me. If I were William or Charles, I'd have a very hard job forgiving him for that and I don't blame them for wanting to steer well clear.

I just really really wish H & M hadn't acted like total arseholes. But because they have, I view everything they do with a cynical eye. I can't stand people who act like professional victims, or who lie to gain public sympathy. Gah!

I’m left wondering why they came at this time. We don’t know whether they were invited to other public events and chose not to attend or whether they were not invited, but either way the jubilee weekend was not the time for a private low key visit. £160K and a private jet to attend a church service and throw a party for a one year old that most of the family weren’t free to attend? Bizarre, and obviously going to generate far more column inches than simply not attending.

'ugly grey coat'? Are you always like this about other womens' clothes? If you are, I'm glad I don't know you

she chose to wear haute couture Dior. It was going to get commented on. For many of us the fashion is the most interesting aspect of the whole shebang. It didn’t fit her properly.

she chose to wear haute couture Dior. It was going to get commented on. For many of us the fashion is the most interesting aspect of the whole shebang. It didn’t fit her properly

It never occurred to me it was grey, it fitted perfectly, and I thought she looked really great, classy and elegant, so there you go.

I too loved her outfit! It was so classy.

@Roussette you have a problem with me finding an item of clothing ugly and thinks that makes me a horrible person? Okay, well I'm sure that H&M will be delighted to see you defending them and their attire so forcefully.

Do you love everything that everyone wears all the time? If so, good for you. Most of us have opinions and things that we like and don't like. For instance, I loved Kate's yellow Philip Treacy hat with the flowers, I thought it was glamorous and classy. I thought Meghan's Dior coat was ugly. So sue me.