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Why did Harry and Meghan walk in alone?

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knittedwithme · 05/06/2022 07:08

I have had a very busy weekend so have only been able to catch snippets of the jubilee weekend events but noticed how Harry and Meghan walked into the service together, seemingly after everybody else, including those sitting in front and behind them?
Why was this? I understand why they didn't walk in with the serving royals but it seemed strange that their entrance stood out so much.

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Andouillette · 05/06/2022 16:16

JudyRudy · 05/06/2022 15:54

Comments like this always amaze me. The level of assumptions, and stating as fact, in regards to what members of the royal family do/think has reached ridiculous levels in recent years. People just make up their own little storylines, usually as dramatic as possible, and go with it. It's fascinating to see!

Fascinating yes, but also rather revolting.

SenecaFallsRedux · 05/06/2022 16:27

Parkperson00 · 05/06/2022 16:16

@ArcaneLana and @JudyRudy . Michelle and the Obamas do have a relationship or did. She attended Northwestern University in Chicago and volunteered in the Democrat Headquarters as part of the campaign nearly twenty years ago to elect Barack Obama as a Senator. Barack and Michelle have been loyal to their supporters from that time and a friend of ours who worked alongside Meghan on the campaign was sent a handwritten congratulatory note when she married. Meghan was very involved in that campaign.

This does not prove a close relationship at all. I've had personal notes from politicians I have supported going back many years; some of whom I have never met. It's standard procedure in the US and is known as "retail politics."

ArcaneLana · 05/06/2022 16:29

@Parkperson00 Kerry Washington,Sebbie Lawen, Eva Longoria Denzel Washington, Tracie Ellis Ross are just some of the black celebrities who supported Obama . None of them just like Meghan have ever claimed they are friends with him and Michelle. A lot of black celebrities and African Americans volunteered for his election and re election campaigns because they felt strongly about what a milestone moment( first election would mean for them and none claimed they were special friends to him). I assume Meghan like others supported him because of what it meant to her. None of these people have ever been attacked for not getting an invitation to his party. I have only seen seen being a big deal in some UK tabloids sorry.

ArcaneLana · 05/06/2022 16:30

Meant Debbie Allen

Billandben444 · 05/06/2022 16:30

Back to the OP..... I would think they walked in on their own to give them their moment in the spotlight. Harry is still our future King's son and it probably rankled to be sitting with the 'others'. Their behaviour was impeccable throughout but I haven't seen much recognition of that.

SenecaFallsRedux · 05/06/2022 16:31

assume it was to ensure there was no way they could end up walking at the same time as William, given the two are still not talking.

William and Catherine entered separately without other family members as did Charles and Camilla. They obviously were following protocol regarding precedence.

Femalewoman · 05/06/2022 16:53

M & H don't appear to like the others much. They don't really need to bother with all the Jubilee stuff since they want their kids to grow up more equal with others in society 'allegedly'. Strange pair full of contradictions in what they say and what they do.

RedRec · 05/06/2022 16:58

As the woman commentator said about royal occasions (sanctioned by the Queen): "nothing happens by chance".
So it was an act of love from the Queen, giving Harry and Meghan their 'moment'.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 05/06/2022 21:02

Agree @RedRec

Yes the BBC commentator said the Queen would have requested this. I was happy to see them and thought they looked lovely. I didn't notice any dagger looks from W&K either. Must have missed that . But if true isn't that a bit childish of W&K on the queens special day.?

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MaulPerton · 05/06/2022 22:04

I would think they walked in on their own to give them their moment in the spotlight

so that their takedown would be complete. Although this foolish pair should never have been invited in the first place, their sidelining on the global stage was evident for all to see.

Their behaviour was impeccable throughout but I haven't seen much recognition of that

Are they 12? Everyone is still reeling from their appalling previous behaviour. Hardly time to applaud H for sitting still through a service and M refraining from offering back rubs.

PinkTonic · 05/06/2022 22:17

francesfrankenfurter · 05/06/2022 09:39

But there is no way they would have got to their seats before Eugenia and Beatrice based on when people arrived.
You are right that these things are coordinated.

They were right behind the York sisters as they entered the cathedral and moved down the receiving line but they hung back instead of moving down the line like the others. If they had walked down the aisle together they’d have reached the row in a group and could have moved smoothly into their seats. As it was they left a big enough gap that they walked alone and everyone had to move to let them in. If it was meant to happen it was clumsily done because it looked very much though they had orchestrated it.

lameasahorse · 05/06/2022 23:20

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Viviennemary · 05/06/2022 23:25

I want to know why they didn't attend any other jubilee events. Were they not invited to the concert or did they choose not to go.

lameasahorse · 05/06/2022 23:34

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PreparationPreparationPrep · 05/06/2022 23:37

I would think they chose not to go. But I suspect they will or would have visited maybe a couple of the charities they are connected to but rightly so the charities will keep this discreet until after they leave.
They also have two very young children and probably want to be with them as they are not in familiar surroundings- except nanny - it's different if the children were back in US and familiar with their surroundings . I am sure they also spent some time as a family with the Queen and PC.
I think if they went to
Other events posters would have a problem and if they didn't the same
Posters will still find a problem with it. Unbelievable really.

SammyScrounge · 05/06/2022 23:44

Nobody wanted to be with them knowing their propensity to report what they heard to the press. How could anyone relax in that pair's company?

Andouillette · 06/06/2022 00:10

SammyScrounge · 05/06/2022 23:44

Nobody wanted to be with them knowing their propensity to report what they heard to the press. How could anyone relax in that pair's company?

And you know this how?
You don't. I saw plenty of cheerful interaction between them and others but then I am not blinded by irrational dislike of people I don't even know.

FinallyFluid · 06/06/2022 00:15

Anyone else thing MM looks rather broad in the stern ?

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Andouillette · 06/06/2022 00:58

FinallyFluid · 06/06/2022 00:15

Anyone else thing MM looks rather broad in the stern ?

Yes. I rather like that she hasn't rushed to get her pre pregnancy shape back. It seems kind of normal and relaxed, not as vain as some might expect.

IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 01:40

Parkperson00 · 05/06/2022 15:17

@JemimaPuddlegoose I think 'Hate' for them is far too strong a word but all the YouGov surveys show that support for the Sussexs has massively declined. At one time, straight after their wedding they were at the top of the chart of most popular royals but since the decision to no longer be working royals, since the 'interview', since Harry's misjudged remarks about him checking in on the Queen to make sure she is surrounded by the right type of people, their popularity has disappeared.
There are so many comments about the Queen having been here for the country over the past seventy years. The Sussexs make no secret of their preference for a life in sunny California. A lot of people in the UK felt abandoned by them and very, very hurt by their actions since then.
Meghan would have been a brilliant addition to the Royal Family. She had so much to offer but she chose to reject the RF and the UK. Her choice but she cannot expect people to love her for those choices.

I have zero interest in the RF, being informed by a French lady this weekend my annoyance with the whole jubilee is ‘not British’.

But this is absurd. M &H we’re basically bullied out of the country.

SpidersAreShitheads · 06/06/2022 01:40

I think there's a lot of reaching going on with both sides of the argument here.

If M & H were given "their moment" deliberately by the Queen, it would have been properly co-ordinated instead of them having to clamber past people to get to their seat.

Similarly, there's no proof that some of the other younger royals don't want to be seen with them - Beatrice and Eugenie are especially friendly with them. They could easily have arrived with them.

It's all speculation. I don't actually think it was planned the way it turned out, but for whatever reason H & M arrived separately/after the others which meant a bit of awkwardness getting to their places, but did mean that they got to walk down with their own "procession". I think it was just fortuitous.

But if I had to take a guess - trying to put myself in their shoes, after maintaining such a distance from the royals in recent years (and the things which have been said) it might feel a little odd for H & M to arrive en masse with the rest of the royal family. Arriving separately would just seem to make more sense, given the events over past few years, and probably would have been more practical too with Lilbet and Archie to consider. Obviously it's total guesswork, but I can see why they didn't go with the others. Nothing shady either way, just practical and less stressful I'd imagine?

Notadogowner · 06/06/2022 01:41

Viviennemary · 05/06/2022 23:25

I want to know why they didn't attend any other jubilee events. Were they not invited to the concert or did they choose not to go.

I suspect it’s because they didn’t want to be a distraction from the Queen. If they did attend the various events, the press would have had a field day writing more negative stories about them when the focus should, rightly, be on the Queen.