Thomas Markle coming to UK for jubilee

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So Thomas has announcement on GB news just now, they are going to pay to help bring him to the UK for the queen's jubilee and would love to meet Charles and Harry / Megan if they turn up, should be intesting. He would dearly love to meet anyone from the royal family as he feels they have much to discuss. I hope it goes well for him.

I do get the feeling that TM is gullible and has repeatedly been led around by the nose.

Dan Wooton, Lady C & Samantha all come out if this looking dreadful, though.

It's too much of a coincidence that he was coming over for the wedding but had a heart attack and then was coming over for the jubilee but has had a stroke.

I suspect he is trying desperately to get attention just like he had from the beginning when he started selling silly stories to the newspapers.

MM is right to stay the fuck away. It might make her look like a heartless cow but if she did go see him, she would be in for a shitstorm the like of she has yet not experienced as it would be a trap. She knows he's shamming.

It's too much of a coincidence that he was coming over for the wedding but had a heart attack and then was coming over for the jubilee but has had a stroke.

Not for a morbidly obese man in his late 70s, who suffers from high blood pressure and has a cardiac history, surely? I mean, you can glance at the bare facts and think “suspicious” or equally you can glance at them and think “the stress of big events effects his health”. Being under a global media lens must be extremely stressful, going along with all these half-baked media schemes to exploit him is probably also quite a strain (he must know on some level), and even a family rupture at that age is very upsetting.

Besides, if he’d somehow set it up, the truth about the heart attacks would have been exposed long ago. Too many medical and ancillary staff involved who could blab for $$$$s.

if he’d somehow set it up, the truth about the heart attacks would have been exposed long ago. Too many medical and ancillary staff involved who could blab for $$$$s

But then equally, if they were going to blab, they could have done it about what treatment he had, what kind of a patient he was and so on

Obviously I'm not suggesting they should blab, but the lack of anyone doing so either way leaves us none the wiser apart from what's been claimed - and as said the claims from this family don't always stack up

Besides, if he’d somehow set it up, the truth about the heart attacks would have been exposed long ago. Too many medical and ancillary staff involved who could blab for $$$$s.

Medical personnel are legally obliged to maintain strict confidentiality. Any publication which published sensitive information gained in such a manner would probably face legal action.

In any case, Thomas Markle is pretty small fry in the gossip world. Legal issues aside, I really don't think anyone is going to open the chequebooks for a story about him.

But then equally, if they were going to blab, they could have done it about what treatment he had, what kind of a patient he was and so on

The fee wouldn’t be worth it. The story would t be especially valuable. The fee for “TM fakes a heart attack” would be in a different league.

Medical personnel are legally obliged to maintain strict confidentiality. Any publication which published sensitive information gained in such a manner would probably face legal action.

😂 You should read/watch Hugh Grant’s evidence to the Leveson Inquiry about his experience at multiple London hospitals. The surgeons/doctors/consultants don’t risk their registration for a tabloid cheque but the receptionists/porters/clerks will take a small risk placing a phone call for $$$$$.

The surgeons/doctors/consultants don’t risk their registration for a tabloid cheque but the receptionists/porters/clerks will take a small risk placing a phone call for $$$$$.

They might, but not that often, and certainly not for Thomas Markle.

Think of all the A listers over the decades who've had medical procedures, given birth, had plastic surgery and so on. How often have we got 'inside information'? Very rarely. Not saying it never happens, but it's not at all common and wouldn't be worth it for a nobody like Thomas Markle. Also, as I said above, the publications would likely also face legal action. So really not worth it.

I thought it had been confirmed that he'd faked his 2018 heart attack and surgery? At least I remember reading an article in one of the broadsheets that referred to him faking it as though it was common knowledge. The hospital definitely denied that he was ever a patient there, he was papped eating McDonalds and walking around with a Starbucks right after claimed to have had major heart surgery, and the medical bill he released photos of to prove it was real looked extremely fake and didn't even have any kind of hospital stamp or letterhead on it.

I don't know who would make money from that since you can't prove a negative. No doctor or porter can go to the press and say "here's proof he never had a heart attack", at most all they can say is "I never treated or saw him." Which the hospital already did confirm that.

Of course he may genuinely have had a stroke but the suspicious timing, coupled with the fact both he and Samantha Grant have a history of faking medical woes (SG faked a car crash - confirmed by police - and was caught on video exaggerating her level of wheelchair use), coupled with the fact there just happened to be paps in Mexico at the exact moment the ambulance arrived to rush him to hospital, coupled with the fact someone gave the paps permission to enter and stand directly next to his hospital bed, coupled with the fact he'd supposedly had a massive stroke moments before and was being rushed to hospital yet had no medical or monitoring equipment save a mask attached to him and was sitting up holding his head up unsupported, coupled with the fact the photos were sold via Backgrid which is notorious for being a fake pap agency that celebs call up when they want to stage pics....

Yeah not buying it.

The hospital definitely denied that he was ever a patient there

Any chance of a link to that, Jemima? I hadn't seen that one, and can't find it now because google results just bring up the latest thing

Also any about the thing with Samantha and the wheelchair use?

I wonder if M phoned the hospital when TM was supposedly in before her wedding. Perhaps she discovered he wasn’t a patient there and so he was lying. That would explain a lot. I still don’t blame him for feeling overwhelmed and out of his depth with the whole thing though. He hadn't even met Harry, let alone all the rest of it.

If she hadn’t written the letter to him which was clearly intended for publication, and Samantha had kept out of it, things might have resolved in time.

He blusters and threatens because he’s hurt and hasn’t got the skills to deal with the situation I think. She is a calculating and manipulative woman who didn’t want him embarrassing her in front of the whole world in my view. He probably realised that too.

So much weirdness attached to this one coupling.

I don't know who would make money from that since you can't prove a negative. No doctor or porter can go to the press and say "here's proof he never had a heart attack", at most all they can say is "I never treated or saw him." Which the hospital already did confirm that.

I'd also be interested in seeing a link for that. Hospitals don't usually provide such information to the public. In fact I think they may be legally forbidden from doing so.

www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a22447421/meghan-markle-dad-thomas-faked-heart-surgery-to-skip-royal-wedding-report/

"Additionally, Daily Mail claims they reached out to Sharp Chula Vista Medical Center, where Thomas said he was admitted for his procedure, for confirmation of his May 16th visit. The hospital told them that "no such name" had ever checked in there."

I know the Mail isn't the most reliable but their agenda has always been anti-Meghan, and I don't think they'd fake a quote from a hospital.

The wheelchair thing didn't get much press attention. I'm disabled and used to work for a disabled organisation so am around and work closely with and am close friends with many wheelchair users. SG was saying that she was essentially confined to a wheelchair 24/7 and unable to take a step from it, but she'd shown videos of the house she was living in and it just clearly wasn't a house that had a non-ambulatory wheelchair user in it. It's hard to describe to non-wheelies but there were just so many little things in terms of how the furniture was laid out, clutter on the floor, no clear paths to doors, lots of things that if you have experience of using a wheelchair just screams no wheelchair access. She also uses a power chair which needs a lot more accommodation.

It only got covered a bit in the press but disabled groups were laughing about it.

I'm not suggesting she's faking her need for a wheelchair because more than 50% of wheelchair users are ambulatory or semi-ambulatory. I have friends who use wheelchairs when they leave the house (due to pain, fatigue, or risk of falls) but leave their wheelchair at the front door and get around with a stick inside their own home. But no way was that the home of a 100% non-ambulatory person.

@JemimaPuddlegoose
Have not seen the video, but what you describe is not the house of someone who needs to be in a wheelchair 24/7
I do not use one but adult dc does and we have to moe furniture, clear floors and so on when they are home. stairs are a no no (lucky we live in a fully adapted house)

Thanks for the link, Jemima - trouble is it's the Mail, and worse still "a source", which can be code for "anything we choose to make up"

I should really have said I was looking for a reliable source rather than some rag, but that's not your fault and the remarks about Samantha's supposed wheelchair space were interesting

Doesn’t Sam Markle have MS ? I don’t know a huge amount about it but aren’t people subject to flare ups ? And then can have periods where the symptoms are largely in remission

I was just reading an article about Selma Blair and her diagnosis and a friends brother in law has been finally diagnosed after some
hellish years. It’s a tricky one as no two cases are the same

Meghan is all the way in the US, does not rely on taxpayers money, yet she is constantly on their lips

She took the taxpayer-funded £30m wedding and, everything else. She can be discussed.

If she hadn’t written the letter to him which was clearly intended for publication, and Samantha had kept out of it, things might have resolved in time.
He blusters and threatens because he’s hurt and hasn’t got the skills to deal with the situation I think. She is a calculating and manipulative woman who didn’t want him embarrassing her in front of the whole world in my view. He probably realised that too.

Absolutely! She is all for show, nothing genuine.
Quick enough off the starting block to weep at the school shooting tragedy; no sympathy for the father who, it seems, brought her up and paid for her education

She was mostly raised by her mum, and she paid for her own education.

When her dad faked his heart problems, she begged him to get in contact with her and made every arrangement possible to support him, and he ghosted her.

Why should she have sympathy for an abuser who's done nothing but exploit, harass, threaten and stalk not just her but her mother as well, who's clearly beyond toxic and seems to have no interest in any of his children except as walking dollar signs.

And that's if he had a stroke, which is highly unlikely IMO.

Correction, she paid for her uni education. He paid for her high school, which is a parents' job and not something to be dangled over an adult child's head and used to emotionally blackmail them.

@JemimaPuddlegoose

The article linked below is a summary of a case taken against the daily mail which comments on her university fees

Her father took out a loan to pay for her fees, her mum helped and she obtained some various assistance to lower the costs

she did not pay her own fees. This is very clearly stated in the article

www.newsweek.com/meghan-markles-struggle-fund-her-college-fees-revealed-1519603?amp=1

Interesting link, Ohnonevermind; reportedly it was in Fiji that she said "It was through scholarships, financial aid programmes and work-study where my earnings from a job on campus went directly towards my tuition - that I was able to attend university"

In light of the court submissionn it seems strange that there was no mention of either parent's contribution ...

So her dad didn't raise her, and he didn't pay for her entire education by himself.

Good to know.

@JemimaPuddlegoose

her actions (scholarships etc) reduced the amount her dad had to borrow. But he was the one who borrowed money not her

She didn’t leave university in debt like most of her contemparies in similar financial circumstances, student loans are huge deal h the US and students are left with huge loans at the end of their courses. 70% of students leave college with fees, so she was in the 30% who don’t, as her dad had assumed the debt on her behalf.

The fees at her college are 35k per annum, so her dad would have needed a large enough loan to cover even 50% of the fees.