Thomas Markle coming to UK for jubilee

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So Thomas has announcement on GB news just now, they are going to pay to help bring him to the UK for the queen's jubilee and would love to meet Charles and Harry / Megan if they turn up, should be intesting. He would dearly love to meet anyone from the royal family as he feels they have much to discuss. I hope it goes well for him.

She clearly never wanted him at the wedding, he was fine to be used as a marketing tool on her aspirational website but not wanted in the flesh as she seems embarrassed by her family (apart from her mum).

Some posters have their own family issues, so are completely one side or the other. I can’t see it though as so black and white though.

For the posters shouting that he was hassling her while pregnant, there is the other view they were hassling him while he was recovering from a heart procedure and needed to reduce stress etc.

for the people saying he’s loving the camera, and talking about him inserting himself into the jubilee story there are videos of her inserting herself into the middle of a polo team shoot and trying to wrestle a box off a young lad in it.

theyre both as good/bad as each other

@Why2why

He has a relationship with Thomas and Samantha so why wouldn’t he want a relationship with Meghan ?

Meghan and Harry have been hassling Thomas Markle?

Seems the British Media is doing an extraordinarily good job in “hassling” him. It is gross how they are exploiting are man who clearly has issues. They are making sure he can never have a good relationship with Meghan. Yet it’s Meghan you think deserve criticism? Where is your moral compass?

And if asking your father to be at your wedding and being reduced to begging him to come is hassling him; I feel such sadness for Meghan and any daughter who has to plead with their father to be there for them.

The rest of the world outside the UK are looking on wondering how low a country can go in its hounding of a biracial woman for reasons that are so ridiculous one can only conclude that racism must be the driving force.

The obsession with bashing Meghan is so bizarre and unhinged. It just does not make sense and I hope an analysis can be done to assess why it’s a British national sport to bash Meghan. Undoubtedly racism is at the core. I remember the letter by the group of female MPs calling out the racist press. Shameful for the UK. Well to be precise, it’s middle age white men and white women that are doing this. Other groups are largely not involved in this nonsense. So it’s incorrect of me to say British. It’s older white British men and women.

Hahahahahahaha. Really? When did this “relationship” with Samantha and Thomas Jr start? You need to be honest with yourself. The man’s relationship with Samantha and Thomas Jr was nonexistent until Bash Meghan campaign began. Samantha does not have a relationship with her own mother and daughter. Yet she is desperate to have a relationship with Meghan? Even changing her name back to Markle to be associated with Meghan.

Thomas Markle has for donkey years been estranged from his older kids. Never even meeting his grandchildren. So what exactly is this “relationship” they had?

Meghan must keep walking far ahead of these people. NC is the only way forward.

Hopefully she walks so far ahead that she disappears over the horizon, and is never seen or heard from again.

I don’t follow it clearly to the same minute detail as others, clearly, I’ve no idea who in the Markle’s speaks to who, but if you go on national TV to speak ‘your truth’ then you can’t complain when others do exactly the same.

@Why2why

She didn’t want him at the wedding. You complain he loves the public stage then say he refused to turn to the biggest event of the year, where he would have had a leading role. Clearly it makes no sense.

The wedding is all in the past (which day is still subject to debate). If the man has had a stroke I hope he makes a recovery. I think their relationship can’t recover, but I think they both contributed to its downfall

Sensible opinion.

The obsession with bashing Meghan is so bizarre and unhinged. It just does not make sense and I hope an analysis can be done to assess why it’s a British national sport to bash Meghan. Undoubtedly racism is at the core

Nope. She married a royal. All royals get criticised and always have done (have you been over to the other thread ?). She will get criticised.

Why? Is she asking you to pay attention to her and her life? She does not know you exist. Then pretend she does not exist to you.

She is a human being with every right to be here and exist like you do. Just ignore her. Your life will be better for it. Hating her affects you, not her. Take control of yourself and your unfounded hatred and use your energy more positively.

Of course Meghan should be subject to criticism but that’s not what’s happening in the UK. It is unrelenting abuse. Typically by middle age and older white men and women for the most ridiculous of things. Meghan is all the way in the US, does not rely on taxpayers money, yet she is constantly on their lips. Those who we pay for, are never criticised and are glorified.

Meghan has been racially abused by the British press, her son was equated to a monkey, her mother referred to in ways that can be described as racist dog whistles. Her white father has been glorified even though he has conducted himself in the most shameful way. Her white sister is seen as a paragon of virtue.

The funny thing is, the British Press in so doing has managed to hasten the demise of the monarchy. Outside of the UK, people are disgusted with it all. Karma.

@Why2why

i find it offensive that you stated that ‘middle aged white women are bashing Meghan Markle’. I’d suggest you report your own post
and have it taken down

I’ve healthy scepticism for some of her comments and actions, and sympathy for some of the treatment she has received.

That healthy scepticism doesn’t make me racist.

Attending your daughter’s wedding is a while different kind of public stage to going on every possible media and denigrating your daughter. The man is a monster.

Meghan interview with Oprah cannot be equated with what her father is doing. Furthermore, racism should not be hidden. The Royal family represents the UK, whose citizens include people from ethnic minority backgrounds. They have every right to know how the Royal Family regards them (not that Meghan said anything people did not know or which isn’t obvious). The Royal Family is not an example of diversity- not in their staff nor in their family line up.

There racist attitude should never be covered. Meghan did the absolute right thing. Good on her. I wish more people would expose these things. The Royal Family serve the public. People from ethnic minorities pay taxes too.

Onwards and upwards Meghan. Karma is doing the work for you. The Royals here are trying to be you. You’re all the way in California and yet they cannot ignore you. They thirst for every little morsel. Such power over them. History will remember you very well. Truth and justice always win.

It is a fact. Sorry if this fact hurts. Mumsnet can remove my post but that does not change the fact. Poll after poll. Even anecdotal evidence. Just look at the array of the carnival of experts.

What you will not do and cannot do is change reality. You will not get to gaslight me or anyone else who has eyes to see and discern.

Mumsnet can choose to be complicit in shutting down truth. I’d not be surprised.

Oh, and I find it offensive how you constantly denigrate a biracial woman and then claim it’s only healthy criticism. I take your dog whistling as an attack on me.

So you’re offended and I’m offended.

@Why2why

I’ve simply pointed out that they‘ve both engaged in the same type of behaviour. I don’t know why that observation offends you so much.

I’ve made this same point a handful of times , I’ve tried to be fair and balanced

But I’m not the one labelling large swathes of the population racist. I don’t understand why you think this is dog whistling, I’ve just asked you to remove the post politely. I can only guess your attacks mean you want the thread deleted

Of course Meghan should be subject to criticism but that’s not what’s happening in the UK. It is unrelenting abuse

She is now discussed very little. They live elsewhere and are of little interest. I agree about the press but then that's just what they do and most people ignore this type of journalism. We've got our own problems with our existing royals. Meghan is nowhere near on that radar. I can't remember the last time there as a thread about her until this latest incident with her father.

Yet here you are.

Always the claim she is irrelevant and yet the evidence says otherwise.

She kissed her husband and that was the headline on the majority of online newspapers. If she sneezes, we will be told about it. Now why can’t I check out the news without seeing Meghan as headline? It’s because there must be demand for Meghan bashing. Isn’t GB News and the one Morgan Piers started bathed in Meghan bashing? If she is so irrelevant why so much irrelevant why do much space given to reporting all sorts of nonsense about her? It’s because it’s profitable. It’s because she lives in the minds of so many of you Brits of a certain group, who apparently cannot or should not be criticised despite the evidence. Such folks are beyond approach and stating obvious fact is offensive to them.

Leave the woman alone. I’d like to check out the news without having to come across some nonsense headline about Meghan.

Report on what Kate wears and how delightful she looks in some dress or another.

You’re equating a biracial woman talking about her experience of racism with her white father’s public abuse of her and you see nothing wrong with that?

Where is the equivalence? Oh wait, anything a black woman does that isn’t her knowing her place, shutting up and taking abuse, must be equated to something heinous like publicly abusing your child.

Anyhoo, it’s time wasting to engage with committed Meghan bashers.

Oh and please don’t make me laugh with your shock that large swathes of Britain can possibly be labelled as racist. Gaslighting at its finest. But if it is your experience that Britain isn’t racist, I can well understand why that would be your experience. 😁

@Why2why

You seem far more invested in MM than any other poster here.

Why don’t you read the Irish times - my paper of choice, you’ll be pretty much free of any headlines about MM. Her book was ravaged though in the book review section.

But why look at GB news, I most certainly never have and I only vaguely know that a right shower of shits are involved. You’re better off avoiding it

Rather like the way I am not going to look on the Fox News website to see them faking outrage at the school shooting in Texas and blaming it all on mental illness.

@Why2why

I’m not British, I’m Irish (but did live in the U.K. for a number of years) - so I’m slightly removed from the situation which means I can judge the two of them on their actions and words in a calm rational manner

@Puzzledandpissedoff you predicted that one correctly.👏👏

I hadn't realised the thread was still going until I got your message, @themessygarden, but no 👏👏 due; a crystal ball wasn't needed to see this coming, especially with a morbidly obese 77 year old

As usual there's no knowing if it's true or not - though again the timing's incredibly convenient - but I see the usual faces are appearing with Samantha leaping to the media. I'm only waiting for Scobie to wade in with a claim of having the inside track, which should give us the full set

It's really awful but I couldn't help be suspicious of the stroke story

I'm not sure there's anything "awful" in being cautious about a story around someone with a history like this, providing you're honest enough to say you can't actually know
Same applies to the endless stuff spouted by the entire RF, H&M included, which is probably why PPs have said they're all as bad as each other

It was interesting, though, that someone said there's proof of Thomas's heart attack. I'm aware he offered a hospital bill, which presumably doesn't count as there was no detail of the actual condition, but does anyone know if there's anything else?

Exactly this. I also think the RF should have had a strategy to deal with the Markles & handle their PR.