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Thomas Markle coming to UK for jubilee

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Flopbopandpop · 25/04/2022 22:29

So Thomas has announcement on GB news just now, they are going to pay to help bring him to the UK for the queen's jubilee and would love to meet Charles and Harry / Megan if they turn up, should be intesting. He would dearly love to meet anyone from the royal family as he feels they have much to discuss. I hope it goes well for him.

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Roussette · 10/06/2022 16:27

But surely when you have children, you then have your own little family, and that is full and central to him.
That's how I think of my children and DH, they're central to my core. That will be Harry too.

You're making him sound like he hasn't got a will of his own. He has. He made a massive decision in his life and he's seeing it through with his own little family. It's like a young family emigrating to Oz, they make their life out there for whatever reason and make it work like Harry will make it work

He made the right decision

TequilaSunriseforme · 10/06/2022 16:56

Roussette · 10/06/2022 16:27

But surely when you have children, you then have your own little family, and that is full and central to him.
That's how I think of my children and DH, they're central to my core. That will be Harry too.

You're making him sound like he hasn't got a will of his own. He has. He made a massive decision in his life and he's seeing it through with his own little family. It's like a young family emigrating to Oz, they make their life out there for whatever reason and make it work like Harry will make it work

He made the right decision

I think that's very simplistic. For a start, the RF are not just any family. He's been brought up in a very particular way, and despite being in the Army he hasn't a clue about real life. All his closest relationships have been with his family who share that background, particularly in light of what happened with his mother. He and William had a very close bond. His friends are nearly all in the UK, and share his sort of background, (Eton, prep schools, etc), they move in the same circles, and he's been close to them most of his life.

He's pissed off most of his family now, with the exception of Eugenie , but certainly is barely speaking to his brother, and has a frosty relationship with his father. It isn't clear if W and K have even met his daughter, or seen his son in the past two and half years. His own wife only speaks to her mother, so there are no cousins on that side.

He is living in a foreign country with completely different values from those he was brought up with. I'm sure the freedom he craved seemed very enticing at first, but it isn't really freedom when you have to generate the money to pay for your privileged lifestyle, you live in a mansion with security everywhere and hardly ever venture out. He can't meet his friends easily. He actually has no role, no purpose and nothing to do apart from lounge around his pool, play with his kids and find new ways to complain about his life.

Roussette · 10/06/2022 17:15

Yes it is simplistic. I think he'll do just fine. You really don't know who he has contact with and who he doesn't. How do you know all this?!!!! You don't! It's just your story you'd like to believe
How in god's name do you know what he does 24/7, in the pool all day 😂🤣😂🤣

You know nothing about what he does. He has a role with Betterup, they have their foundation and they aren't telling you what they do all day so I'll take what you say with a pinch or ton of salt!

Ohnonevermind · 10/06/2022 17:37

@Roussette

i do agree with you about the central family unit but I’ve friends who’ve struggled when they’ve returned on holidays etc as the aging process is more pronounced when you don’t see family for a while.

I’ve met people who’ve moved back in the last few years (I’m late 40’s so our parents are older) and that has been one of the main reason (safety in the US has been another reason for one or two)

Roussette · 10/06/2022 18:29

Ohnonevermind. Yes, get that 🙂

JemimaPuddlegoose · 11/06/2022 14:33

He's been brought up in a very particular way, and despite being in the Army he hasn't a clue about real life.

That's true for any super rich person. They don't live the same lives as us and never will do. They all live in rich people bubbles. So what? Why is that fine for everyone else but not fine for Harry? Why on earth do you think that rich celebs who have the resources to do anything and go anywhere they like are shut-ins and prisoners in their own homes? Of course he doesn't "barely go outside" what a bizarre claim to make! They certainly have far more freedom than Will and Kate.

We have no idea who Harry's friends are, and it's weird to assume he hasn't made friends outside the UK/royal bubble. He's clearly been unhappy with royal life and press intrusion for years, if not decades, so it's reasonable so assume that he's made friendships outside of the royal bubble, and we don't know who those friends are because they're loyal and don't leak to the press.

Meghan is close to her mother and also has a solid group of close friends she's known for decades, who are likely like family to her. The children will be raised with their mum's best friends' children, as well as their own friends that they meet through school or whatever. Just like most kids. Growing up I certainly was closer to schoolmates and my mum's best friends' children than cousins, isn't that normal?

Doria is the children's only grandmother. If they'd stayed in England they likely wouldn't have seen their only grandmother that often. Pretty hypocritical that the people pearl-clutching about how terrible it is that the children won't be raised close with cousins or distant cousins are fine with the children being raised 5500 miles away from their only grandmother.

Only in Meghan threads are siblings (even half-siblings you didn't grow up with and never knew) and cousins considered more important than your children, or your own mother or grandmother. It's very weird that MN of all places is putting blood relations on such a pedestal when so many threads are about people going NC with relatives.

Anyway if William and Kate want to see their niece and nephew, or care about their kids knowing their cousins, they can very easily get on one of the private jets they regularly take to the Maldives or the Seychelles. Why is the onus on Harry and Meghan?

Harry has Invictus Games, the documentary he's making about Invictus, his Netflix deal, Sentebale and his other charity work, things like the Vax Live concert he helped organise, as well as raising two small children and no doubt spending time chilling with his wife, and seeing their own friends, and pursuing their own hobbies and interests like going to the super bowl. Both Harry and Meghan seem ambitious and driven, and hardly people to sit around a pool.

lollipoprainbow · 11/06/2022 14:47

@JemimaPuddlegoose great post

Roussette · 11/06/2022 15:01

The children will be raised with their mum's best friends' children, as well as their own friends that they meet through school or whatever. Just like most kids. Growing up I certainly was closer to schoolmates and my mum's best friends' children than cousins, isn't that normal?

So agree with this. I have adult DCs and two lifelong friends. Our DCs are close and it's lovely. We've all holidayed together on occasions over decades. My DCs are barely in contact with their cousins, except a couple of them from time to time. All friendly at weddings and funerals but that's it really. You can't force family members to be bosom pals. We all jog along ok but we're not in each others pockets
And my DCs have very strong friendship groups from school and particularly Uni. You can't choose family, you can choose friends though

Ohnonevermind · 11/06/2022 15:16

@Roussette

I think it depends. My mum and her siblings (and their wives/husbands) and my dads too are all really close. My cousins (so many of them) used to come and stay with us for the summer (they lived on farms and we lived in the city) and we would get our country fix too. my mum organises big party family get togethers and we’re are all still close, even though most of my aunts and uncles have now passed away. My mum is the glue.
My cousins still drop off at my parents house flying home or away (my parents live in Dublin) and my cousins live mainly in the country). My mum has a huge heart. Anyone coming to Dublin - college/work etc is always welcomed, and she distributes the news (not gossip). She spotted one of my cousins had an eating disorder (luckily early and she was
able to get help). As an adult I still get lovely feelings walking into my aunts houses which the feeling of wonderful childhood memories. I know I’m lucky though

My husbands immediate family and my families are very close too. Our families communicate with each other (climbing trips etc/visiting where my brothers live)

Roussette · 11/06/2022 15:24

ohno. That is really lovely and it does depend yes. Don't get me wrong, we have an amiable relationship but my parents died nearly 20 years ago so maybe that's why
I'm in weekly/fortnightly touch with my siblings but my DCs aren't with their cousins particularly, although they all get on really well at family occasions

You Mum sounds a gem!

Ohnonevermind · 11/06/2022 15:30

We do spend time with my best friend (since 4) as she’s amazing but her kids are a lot older than mine so at different stages.

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