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Thomas Markle coming to UK for jubilee

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Flopbopandpop · 25/04/2022 22:29

So Thomas has announcement on GB news just now, they are going to pay to help bring him to the UK for the queen's jubilee and would love to meet Charles and Harry / Megan if they turn up, should be intesting. He would dearly love to meet anyone from the royal family as he feels they have much to discuss. I hope it goes well for him.

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Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 22:29

Correction 70% of students leave college with student debt.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 30/05/2022 22:36

Anyway regardless of what happened or didn't happen decades ago (not sure why those who dislike Meghan are so hung up on discussing her childhood so frequently), it's nice to see that Thomas Markle has made such a swift recovery from his stroke.

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 22:37

Thomas Markle continued paying off her university debt until 2014 (again from the same article). She went to college 2000-2003 so It must have been a reasonably large loan.

I wouldn’t personally expect my dad to continue paying off my student loans if I signed a TV deal (2002) and he was financial constrained. But that’s my personal opinion and what I would do.

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 22:39

He was still paying off her college fees 8 years ago - so hardly decades ago

JemimaPuddlegoose · 30/05/2022 22:41

Is there proof of that, or is that yet another wild claim he's made?

Strange that he would be paying off her student loans when they were estranged off and on from the time she was a teenager, and she was financially supporting him as an adult (the reason he ghosted her around the wedding was because she stopped giving him money).

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 22:42

@JemimaPuddlegoose

i just did some research - not because I dislike her but because of the ‘alternative facts’ being peddled about unthread

Hopefully that’s cleared up for you now.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 30/05/2022 22:46

Feel free to post this "research."

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 22:51

It formed part of the court papers ?

Heres the relevant section

‘The financial legacy of her college tuition fees was felt for years to come with lawyers for the Mail on Sunday claiming in court that Thomas Markle was still repaying the debt until at least 2014.

However, Meghan has been clear in the past that she believes the "challenges" were worth it.’

I’m guessing they provided a copy of a loan agreement with payments ?

she spoke about attending college and said

She said: "As a university graduate, I know the personal feeling of pride and excitement that comes with attending university. I am also fully aware of the challenges of being able to afford this level of schooling for many people around the world—myself included.

"It was through scholarships, financial aid programs, and work-study, where my earnings from a job on campus went directly towards my tuition, that I was able to attend university. And, without question, it was worth every effort."

her wording above would lead you to believe that she paid it all, but her father was probably not able to get a loan for it all.

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 22:57

@JemimaPuddlegoose

banks don’t accept ‘i’m estranged from my daughter’ as a valid reason to stop paying a loan 🤣

ive already posted the link from Newsweek referring the case and documents from it, above I’ve posted the relevant sections.

Have you a link for this financial help she was providing? Is it in court documents?

JemimaPuddlegoose · 30/05/2022 22:59

How is her financial situation as a teenager remotely relevant to literally anything?

Just another excuse to bash her?

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 23:04

i’m not bashing her, you said she paid for her college education , I’ve corrected you.

I’ve said her father was clearly not in a position to pay her fees and and had to get a loan, I wondered why she didn’t get a student loan herself.

Millions of other students in similar financial circumstances manage to do it all the time. It’s really common in the US - 70% of graduates have loans

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_loans_in_the_United_States

RandomMess · 30/05/2022 23:08

US college fees are astronomical.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 30/05/2022 23:10

Still not seeing any proof that Thomas Markle "paid for her college education" when you yourself admitted that her education was paid for due a combination of support from both parents, scholarships, financial aid, plus her own employment and work-study income.

Or why the fact he contributed to part of her education as a teenager means she's indebted to him for the rest of her life and should tolerate any degree of abuse, harassment, threats, lies, and stalking.

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 23:12

@JemimaPuddlegoose

i just posted an article about student v parent loans.- pros cons etc.

as you can see, parents can’t demand a child takes over debt. below is an article which talks about average student debt and the 70% of students who leave college with loans. You can also see that total student loans are nearly 1.2 trillion dollars in the US. it’s crazy

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_loans_in_the_United_States

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 23:22

@JemimaPuddlegoose

can we keep it factual please and avoid the dramatics.

are you denying he took out a loan to pay for her education ?

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 23:26

I’ve never said he’s indebted to her. But if I was an actress on 500,000 a year, I would probably helped out - she helped pay his moving expenses and gave him some financial gifts. I’ve checked and there is no value with the size of the loan or the size of the gifts

at this point the relationship is toxic and Thomas should leave her alone. But he was cast to the wolves (press) without enough support which contributed to this toxic relationship too.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 30/05/2022 23:26

Again, how is this relevant?

He clearly only paid for part of her schooling, not all of it.

Why on earth does him paying for part of her schooling decades ago obligate her to tolerate abuse and stalking from someone so toxic he's become estranged from all his children and grandchildren?

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 23:36

@JemimaPuddlegoose

he was the only one in debt after she graduated. Whether he paid 50% or 95% of her fees - he was the only one in hock to the banks for her education.

you denied the facts ‘she paid it all’ and then minimised ‘it was decades ago’ then attacked him ‘stalker’ then a bit of what aboutey ‘she gave him money’

at least other posters can admit when they’re wrong

JemimaPuddlegoose · 30/05/2022 23:41

You've still not answered how on earth any of this stuff from her childhood is remotely relevant, or why you believe paying for your child's schooling makes it okay to abuse and harass them decades later.

Oh and BTW Jason Knauf (Prince William's former right hand man and CEO of the Cambridge Foundation) is the one who was officially assigned the job of Thomas Markle's handler, it was his job to prep him and protect him and handle press for him.

Funny how Doria Ragland has managed the press with complete discretion and grace, despite being both black and a woman, plus not having Thomas Markle's many years experience of working in the brutal shark tank of the Hollywood entertainment industry.

Ohnonevermind · 30/05/2022 23:59

@JemimaPuddlegoose

I agree he made a right mess of it. He should have kept his head down until the wedding.

His head was completed turned. I’m not sure why, it doesn’t make sense to me. Was it his chance to be in front of the camera, rather than behind it. Did his other kids give him bad advice ? He had been in the industry long enough to know the score.

He lost out on attending the wedding of the year, giving her away, and for what, a few pap shots and chump change. He was a smart guy, he won Emmys so I just can’t fathom why he behaved that way .

i think in his hindsight (a wonderful thing) , he needed a physical minder in advance of the wedding. Was Jason Krause with him or emailing him ? If he was there he was pretty rubbish

Ohnonevermind · 31/05/2022 00:02

@JemimaPuddlegoose

i agree with you, Doria handled the whole situation wonderfully. She seems a lovely classy lady.

Thomas has behaved very badly.

Sortilege · 31/05/2022 00:14

JemimaPuddlegoose · 30/05/2022 22:36

Anyway regardless of what happened or didn't happen decades ago (not sure why those who dislike Meghan are so hung up on discussing her childhood so frequently), it's nice to see that Thomas Markle has made such a swift recovery from his stroke.

That is incredibly snide. He reportedly can’t speak.

LilythePunk · 31/05/2022 04:11

JemimaPuddlegoose · 30/05/2022 22:11

So her dad didn't raise her, and he didn't pay for her entire education by himself.

Good to know.

She lived with him though for the majority of her childhood!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/05/2022 10:43

Ohnonevermind it's true the court papers said that Thomas was repaying the debt until 2014, and true again that this is hardly "decades ago", but I wonder if his alleged money problems could have involved him resceduling the debt over a longer term?

Obviously I don't know his financial details, but I just thought it's a possibility

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