Thomas Markle coming to UK for jubilee

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So Thomas has announcement on GB news just now, they are going to pay to help bring him to the UK for the queen's jubilee and would love to meet Charles and Harry / Megan if they turn up, should be intesting. He would dearly love to meet anyone from the royal family as he feels they have much to discuss. I hope it goes well for him.

Shouldn’t a parent pay for their children’s schooling? Why is any of this relevant?
It’s common in the US to work on campus and to get scholarships - I had an offer from there with a 50% scholarship. Her parents probably took out loans for the rest. Parents save up for college there it’s not like the UK. Why does any of this matter. If someone paid for your tuition then you must stick with them even if they are rotten and sell stories about you to the press?

@Mosmuma

its only relevant as posters earlier said he didn’t pay her fees probably based on a speech where she strongly implied she paid it all (section copied above) that she paid for it all (she references lots of things but not her dads loan 🤔 . Court papers show otherwise.

I agree her dads behaviour isn’t great.

But if he’s still paying off her college loans and having to move to Mexico and she’s drinking Tig wine at 100 dollars a bottle.
Court papers show but she did give him 5,000 dollars to pay for his move, which he thanked her for in the court papers.

He made about 30,000 dollars from his share of the pap shots and interviews afterwards.

The 'selling stories about her to the press' puzzles me. Because all his more ill-judged conversations with Dan Wooton etc.seem to have come after she broke off contact with him. The thing that prompted the estrangement seemed to have been that odd set up photo shoot of him sitting in a cafe reading a book about Britain and so on. I gather the papers lapped it up but other than being cheesy and gauche, that is something that could have been shrugged off. It's hardly in the league of Charles and his tampon remarks, or any of Philip's bigoted 'gaffes'. Yet that seemed to be some terrible crime? I don't get it.

At that point he had apparently been invited to the wedding, but had still not actually met Harry, which was odd too. They easily had the means to arrange to go to him or to have him flown over earlier. Meghan had gushed about what a great dad he was on her blog, and contrary to him 'not having raised her', Meghan herself had provided lots of examples of him being in her life, and she'd lived with him during the teenage years when Doria was not around. The last few years have put both both father and daughter in a bad light, but I still don't understand how it got to the point of their estrangement around the time of wedding. And I can't see that at that point he'd sold stories about her.

Quite simple. He was an embarrassment to her once she had met Harry.

Quite simply, he is an abusive man and was always this way. He did not become abusive overnight. God knows what it was like growing up with him.

The fact that he does not have a positive relationship with his two ex-wives and no meaningful relationship with any of his children or their children says a lot. That abusive man is the problem. No wonder he is a sad and lonely man with no friends living in Mexico.

I thought he and Doria had a good relationship and co parented? They used to spend Xmas together with M some years post divorce I think. No evidence he was abusive with Doria or his first wife. Or to Meghan.
His relationship with his other children seems dysfunctional. They seem very dysfunctional, but how much if that is due to their relationship with their father, we don’t know.

You thought they had a good relationship? Where is the evidence of this and on what basis do you think this?

Co-parenting means the absence of abusive behaviour?

If he has such a good relationship with Doria or had a good relationship with Doria where is the evidence of this? Everything I’ve read and what I can see from the lack of interaction and what his first ex-wife has said, Thomas Markle is a horrible person. What he is doing to his daughter confirms it.

A man with no friends, all alone, no meaningful relationship with any of his other children or grandchildren, neither any “good” relationship his ex-wives (one of whom has gone on record to state how wicked he is). But it’s Meghan that’s the abusive one?

None of you will keep that woman, The Duchess of Sussex down. While your lives are consumed by her, onwards and upwards she goes. She has a life, the hateful people out their plus her father should get one.

History is on Meghan’s side.

On a really serious note: how much does Thomas Markle, as a white man need to do before he is condemned for his abusive behaviour towards his mixed-race daughter? If he was a black man doing this to a white woman, would he receive all this sympathy? The man is clearly abusive and yet he is lifted up.

History will laugh at the UK. Fortunately, what is just and right prevails. Decency will prevail.

Abusive against women is not tolerated except when it is a woman of colour. The world is looking and judging the UK.

@LilythePunk

the narrative has changed so much it’s hard to know what’s the truth

www.goalcast.com/meghan-markle-doria-ragland-thomas-parents-relationship/amp/

This article contain Meghan’s own words quoted from a number of articles including vanity fair.

Including her dad even building her a mixed race doll family and how her parents stayed close after the divorce watching TV together.

As long as she doesn't expect handouts from the British taxpayer, have some self-respect and pay for your own stuff everything else is an irrelevance.

maybe as she got older M realised how controlling her father was.

And that means he cannot be abusive or he wasn’t abusive?

People have both good and bad in them. Have a look at American Monster series. You see how people praised their parents while admitting behind closed doors it was a nightmare. It would have been odd for her to have been exposing the dark side of him back then. In any case, he is doing this all by himself.

Regardless, Thomas behaviour towards his daughter is all the evidence that is needed. No decent parent would behave as he is behaving.

Hut go ahead. Defend this white man’s abuse after all she is just a woman of colour.

What has race got to with it? He is or isn’t abusive. No one knows whether he was abusive to her. There is absolutely no evidence at all that he was. His behaviour since she married has been awful, but who knows what the dynamics are or how he is feeling? My guess is he is very hurt and lashing out (verbally) is his means of trying to regain some self respect. That doesn’t excuse it however. Whether he is white or black is irrelevant. If he was a racist he wouldn’t have married Doria, would he?

Maybe m is very hurt and that why she went nc

😀 what has race got to do with it? Everything!

Worth asking Stephen Fry. The delusion is overwhelming the preserve of our white subjects of the Queen. It is almost always a white person who will scream “what does race have to do with it!” The racism is palatable. It hangs on the British air like a stink. The treatment of Meghan from the vet go has been about race - exotic and straight outta Compton with a monkey depiction as Archie leaving the hospital, to her being uppity and there being a niggling something or the other about her, and support for a clearly abusive white man, terrorising a woman (oh she is just an exotic woman straight outta Compton so okay to be abused).

England was built on racism, the laws are built around race. The culture of the legal system, society mindset has been built on race and you ask what has race got to do with anything? Take some time and look at the incontrovertible evidence - in every aspect of our society racial bias is at play - in the media, in education, in health, the police, I could go on. I’m glad your lived experience and how you view the world is me devoid of race and racial bias. Count yourself amongst the privileged majority.

The media support of an abusive white man is about race

Media support? I don’t think so. Some of the media enjoy stirring the pot to gain readership.

So why haven’t the media gone after Doria? There has been nothing but praise for her dignity and grace . I haven’t read anything critical of her at all. Which doesn’t support your argument.

If it’s true that Doris “wasn’t around” in Meghan teenage years, why hasn’t it been established where she was?

I don't think we're supposed to wonder about that on here, Sortilege - at least, not from the way some go ballistic if the question's so much as asked

Perhaps she refuses to acknowledge him because he's a horrible man.
It doesn't need to be more complicated than that. If my dad was rotten I'd NC. No matter how much he pretended to be nice in future.
What if Meghan / her mum gave him money to pay off the student loans and he spent it. We don't know anything about these people. People don't NC for no reason.
If he doesn't have a relationship with his other kids and has never seen the other grandchildren - why do people think Meghan should be an exception?

If he was such an awful abusive father, why did she gosh about him on social media and post pictures of him right up to the time she met Harry? What evidence is there that he was abusive? Don’t you think M would have chosen to live with her mother instead if he was so dreadful ?

Gush

Most of the true stories about Meghan's past life get suppressed before they can be printed. There is a massive wall of silence that works in her favour which makes it so puzzling why she perceives the press to be her enemy. If you know people in media circles then you will know the answer to many questions about Doria, the breakup of her first marriage etc. I won't be spilling as I recognise that it is not my privilege/career on the line but I honestly cannot see it being suppressed indefinitely. All I will say is that when it comes out, both the fans and the non-fans will be surprised.

They had a period of estrangement when she was a teenager (video evidence). Clearly their relationship has been up and down at best.

You've attacked her plenty for talking negatively about her experiences with the royal family, and now you're attacking her for NOT talking negatively publicly about her father while she was a young aspiring actress? Christ she really can't win can she.

Thomas Markle was the one who ghosted her over the wedding, not the other way around. He's the one who faked heart surgery. He's the one who refused to get on the plane to England when everything had been taken care of for him. He's the one who ghosted her and refused to answer her phone calls.

And your snide little "wink wink" comments about Doria are pathetic. You're clearly trying to reference the conspiracy theory (invented by a white supremacist Tumblr blog) that Doria spent time in prison and that the RF used their power to have California public records destroyed. Which is clearly a lie based on racist hate.

So why haven’t the media gone after Doria? There has been nothing but praise for her dignity and grace . I haven’t read anything critical of her at all. Which doesn’t support your argument.

Except here on MN. And on social media. And blogs. And this thread, which is fully of snide hints that of course the black woman with a respectable career history and close loving family who has been nothing other than discreet and class must secretly have a dark past which can only be hinted at by yet another poster claiming to have "insider connections" (funny how posters claiming to have "insider connections" and to know terrible things about Meghan have popped up practically every other week since the engagement, yet not a single claim has ever come to anything), but the white man whose entire family has disowned him, with a proven history of stalking and harassment, has to be defended so vociferously someone decided to start four threads within the space of a couple of weeks about how wonderful he is.

Funny how there's so much hate and conspiracy theories about Doria online, yet not a word has ever gotten into the press... almost like even the press can tell they're all a crock of shit invented by racists.