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Harry and Meghan 'are invited to appear on Buckingham Palace balcony at Queen's Platinum Jubilee'

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NarcissasMumintheDoghouse · 19/04/2022 08:22

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10729859/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-invited-make-balcony-appearance-Jubilee.html

No source cited, so could just be made up news.

How do you all feel about this? Is it another refusing-to-fly-the-flag-at-half-mast-for-Diana misreading of the public mood? Does anybody actually care? And, if not, what does that signify?

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CathyorClaire · 02/05/2022 21:02

I would be very surprised if they were really paid much

I agree. Some kind of relatively small upfront retainer maybe but the big bucks would have been dependent on proven audience demand.

If NF had coughed the lot straight into Harry's eager skyrocket he unpromising sounding Pearl would still have been go.

CathyorClaire · 02/05/2022 21:04

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Serenster · 03/05/2022 08:20

Also, if Netflix really had paid Archewell £100m upfront for the content they were to create (which, for the reasons many have pointed out is highly unlikely) then they would almost certainly own that content, whatever stage it is at. So the Sussexes wouldn’t now be able to try and find another platform for it, as I’ve seen mentioned on Twitter.

CathyorClaire · 03/05/2022 10:15

Agree with that ^^too.

I also suspect there will have been clauses allowing NF to do any potential walking penalty free. They'd have been very ill-advised not to given Harry's penchant for the courts.

Soffit · 03/05/2022 10:25

Agree with that too. NF wanted the juiciest details and inside secrets and they are now going to use a competent team to fashion it all into a multi part explosive. H & M would never have been able to do it because they don't have the talent or the experience and (maybe, just maybe) would have had to stop short of destroying his family's reputation.
They never gave a crap about Meghan's phony teachable moments and using the Welsh meaning of her name (Pearl) which was narcissistic even by LA standards. The litmus test of her popularity was The Bench and it bombed and sucked even after her in person attempts to resurrect it.

Samcro · 03/05/2022 11:13

i can't for the life of me who would pay anyone 100 million like that up front.
whether you like them or not that is just crazy. are you sure they got it up front?

BeforeGodAndAllTheFish · 03/05/2022 11:23

A deal "worth $100 million" does not mean they were paid $100 million.

The deal covered animation, documentaries etc. Each area of production will have it's own schedules and payments attached. There will maybe be bonuses for viewer figures.

They didnt release details of how long the deal runs for. Let's say it's 5 years. If it runs for 5 years, then they'll get $100 million dollars over 5 years as long as they meet the conditions and timescales agreed on the sort of content they committed to making.

IcedPurple · 03/05/2022 11:27

The '$100 million' was just a sum bandied about in the media and never officially confirmed. I doubt they got anything close to that.

And any money they did get would have been as a production package. They'd have had to fund the cost of hiring staff and paying the production costs out of that. None of that comes cheap. Also, the arrangement would have been contingent on them actually producing content, which thus far they have failed to do. It's not like the money from any NF 'deal' was wired to their bank accounts that day and was theirs to spend as they chose. They may have got a retainer up front but probably not much more than that.

This is just my inexpert opinion. Happy to be corrected on any of the above by anyone who knows how these things work.

Ohnonevermind · 03/05/2022 11:31

The Netflix deal is a cost plus deal I suspect as that is the way they do them.

The Sussex spend 6.5m on costs for a project and they get 10m from Netflix (Cost +) and they do 10 of these projects - that’s 100m

The Sussex are left with 35m after their own costs of 65m

But from that 35m they have to pay Netflix to advertise and put their program on their streaming service so that will eat into their 35m especially if they are doing one off documentaries rather than series.

what is also important is that Netflix owns the distribution rights so they make any money selling to other services so no syndication revenues down the road.

its a lot less lucrative than 100m

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Ohnonevermind · 02/05/2022 18:58

I’m still a little underwhelmed about the Sussex brand. They currently don’t have the wealth to run a gates type foundation, and they currently seem to be operating a scattergun approach with limited success as they can’t make large investments when needed or attract other peoples money to make the required large investments.

Their statements demanding vaccines be provided to everyone while noble ignored the far more expensive and probably impossible logistical challenge of getting vaccine into peoples arms. This lead me correctly or incorrectly to believe it was about publicity for their brand rather than genuinely solving the problem. The far right in the US have been disparaging of ‘experts’ but people taking about issues on the other side of the political divide where they don’t have expertise is equally annoying.

Their brand is a little lost amongst heavyweights like the gates foundation and the Obama foundation They would like to be at this top table. Sushine Sachs is a crisis focussed agency, perhaps they would be better suited to a new agency with a more positive focus

Yup... I know a lot about the vaccines because of my work, and when you see they're talking nonsense about the thing you know well, it makes you assume they're talking rubbish about everything else too

lameasahorse · 03/05/2022 21:54

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Justkeeppedaling · 04/05/2022 08:47

They never gave a crap about Meghan's phony teachable moments and using the Welsh meaning of her name (Pearl) which was narcissistic even by LA standards

"Meghan" is not a Welsh name. "Megan", on the other hand.....

Soffit · 04/05/2022 09:32

Justkeeppedaling · 04/05/2022 08:47

They never gave a crap about Meghan's phony teachable moments and using the Welsh meaning of her name (Pearl) which was narcissistic even by LA standards

"Meghan" is not a Welsh name. "Megan", on the other hand.....

Well, that was her point of reference for using it so you would need to tell her. Then again, I don't think she would be ready to give up her infantile word play .. Archewell, Tig all self-centered obviously...

Ohnonevermind · 04/05/2022 15:38

I suppose the interesting point regarding the cancellation, is that they were given a ‘standard treatment’. The publicity around the deal implied they were a VIP sign up, but this treatment shows something different perhaps. Hollywood is a ruthless place

lameasahorse · 04/05/2022 16:37

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Ohnonevermind · 04/05/2022 16:54

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With VIP’s it’s often spun as a mutual decision, not a simple cut, to allow the VIP to save face. I didn’t see anything of that nature, but I’m happy to be corrected.

They’ve cut three animation shows I’d read.
Michelle Obama’s animated show Ada twist is still running

AmberLynn1536 · 04/05/2022 17:25

Spotify’s deal with the Obama’s is not being renewed, sounds like neither side were happy. If the Obama’s are not being renewed I don’t see how Harry and Meghan will be successful, they don’t have anywhere near their status or experience.

Viviennemary · 06/05/2022 15:27

Daily Mail now reporting they have been banned from the balcony. It will only be working royals, their childrdn and a few select others. Good decision I think.

Chilledchablis1 · 06/05/2022 15:39

@Vivienne Mary ·
“Daily Mail now reporting they have been banned from the balcony. It will only be working royals, their childrdn and a few select others. Good decision I think.”

BBC also reporting this . I agree that it’s a good decision. It would have become the Sussex Show with Netflix lurking.

Soffit · 06/05/2022 15:42

Well, that basically confirms the source of the original rumour (no surprises there!)

Chilledchablis1 · 06/05/2022 15:57

According to Scobie , H and M plus DC are coming over for the Jubilee .

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 06/05/2022 16:14

Chilledchablis1 · 06/05/2022 15:57

According to Scobie , H and M plus DC are coming over for the Jubilee .

How interesting that the moment the announcement of the balcony being working royals only, they decide they've made their minds up to come after all and put out a statement about it. Harry had said only recently in his interview that he wasn't sure yet.

queenofarles · 06/05/2022 16:14

According to Scobie , H and M plus DC are coming over for the Jubilee
oh wow I think this will get messy.
anyone think it’s for the Netflix footage?

Viviennemary · 06/05/2022 16:18

Just read there will be a second balcony appearance at the end of the jubilee. Curiouser and curiouser.

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