First visit of royal tour cancelled because of local protest

[Viviennemary]

Just seen on sky news William and Kates visit to a farm in the Caribbean was cancelled becsuse of a local protest. I am with these locals. From their point of view why should those two very entitled unelected multi millionaires who have virtually nothing to do with their country be visiting and expecting to be honoured and bowed and scraped to. They are no better or important than anybody else.

The way this is going is looking at the picture in the round, as it were, which of course includes what Sterling makes of it.

Happy crowds, reaching hands, utterly normal layout of grounds - very wrong to assume layout must be like it is in our country, isn't it?

the pictures are bad. not W&K fault. they will most likely had no say about it. nothing to do with any other royals who were not there.

Interesting that Scobie was not the only one who wrote a book that did not denegrate Meghan and Harry.
Andrew Morton and Sean Smith also wrote one. They we're also on telly explaining how they never found anything untoward regarding Meghan when they dug up on her past. Sean continues to defend her.
They are both white, and you will note that they do not get attacked. It's the same for other commentators, it's always the ones of colour who get hounded.

Which brings me to the Rota. If the Royal Rota had non-white people, they probably would have picked up on what these pictures depict for people of colour.

If the RF had that diversity team or diversity szar they promised, they would have known how jarring the pictures look. If any person of colour was in K&W PR team, they would not have advised this trip, but even if the trip goes on, they would have suggested the gates are open so the people can see them properly. It just shows you how backwards the palace is.

If the RF had that diversity team or diversity szar they promised, they would have known how jarring the pictures look. If any person of colour was in K&W PR team, they would not have advised this trip, but even if the trip goes on, they would have suggested the gates are open so the people can see them properly. It just shows you how backwards the palace is

Now this I agree with. And @Samcro. As I said right at the beginning, it's the fault of the aides, the PR, those that have co-ordinated the trip, those that are there right next to them every day. I said before twice on this thread exactly this, so yes I agree notanother

What on earth were the aides thinking. Surely their job is to manage photo ops?

notanotheroneagain

“Interesting that Scobie was not the only one who wrote a book that did not denegrate Meghan and Harry.
Andrew Morton and Sean Smith also wrote one. They we're also on telly explaining how they never found anything untoward regarding Meghan when they dug up on her past. Sean continues to defend her.
They are both white, and you will note that they do not get attacked. It's the same for other commentators, it's always the ones of colour who get hounded.“

Never heard of Sean Smith but Andrew Morton isn’t spouting off every few minutes on Twitter like OS !

why does this thread about W&K tour have to be about H&M? nothing to do with them.
@Roussette agree. surely they have advisors. I am sure there were other photo opportunities that would have not looked so bad.\

Everything is a photo opportunity.

All football venues of any size will be fenced - it's wrong to think narrowly that every country's facilities will look like they do in UK.

I suppose they could have omitted football completely, but that would have been a shame for the happy fans

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Considering how "unwelcome" we keep being told they are, it's perhaps surprising that the crowd behind the fence came at all, and from the look of things they were hardly there to protest their presence

I'd say the awful looking fence situation might have arisen from their government not expecting many to be interested, but again, if that's the case why invite W&K at all?

Do you believe that Jamaica invited them? Or were they just told that the RF were coming? I'm asking because there's a piece in the Independent today which indicates it's the latter.

The likes of Richard Palmer, Piers, Dan W, Angela L, Richard Eden, there is a very long list. All of them spouting nonsense every day. Scobie has never personally attached any of them, and yet they think they have some kind of monopoly on any H&M related issues, and attack Scobie all the time. They come off as bullies and unprofessional.

There would be no shame for the happy fans, as they were shouting Sterling all the time, that is who they came there for. It was some idea to piggyback on him, to seem very popular, but that PR stunt backfired.

I think the happy fans were mostly interested in Raheem Sterling. The crowd behind the fence were more there for him possibly? He was there for his Foundation which aims to improve social mobility in Jamaica and give impoverished youths opportunities.

jamaica.loopnews.com/content/raheem-sterling-happy-bring-joy-jcans-meet-royals-homeland

So they called Sterling to piggyback on his popularity as PR.

Anyway, Jamaica has effectively served their notice.

Anyway, Jamaica has effectively served their notice.

Apparently he said when he became PM in 2016 that this was his intention. However, in order to do this, a referendum needs to be held according to their constitution. He has not yet set a date to do this.

'If any person of colour was in K&W PR team, they would not have advised this trip, but even if the trip goes on, they would have suggested the gates are open so the people can see them properly. '

Yes the whole thing seems a complete cock up and waste of everyone's time.

The most basic communication between the Palace and the Jamaican PM would surely have highlighted it wasn't a good idea. Let them have their Republic I'm not sure why we want to hang on to countries in the carribean anyway,

Yes the whole thing seems a complete cock up and waste of everyone's time.

Bear in mind though that, from what I’ve read, these photos have been cropped and were taken while they were walking towards the open gates which they reached moments later. As pp have said, things are easily taken out of context and can be manipulated. It’s not always possible to think of every possible negative scenario that could arise, especially when you are in the hands of someone else’s hospitality.

'As pp have said, things are easily taken out of context and can be manipulated.'

True. Its a shame we don't have a more unbiased press. It'd be interesting to hear how locals felt about the visit.

Not biased rather more gossipy. The msm tend to make an issue out of every single glance or comment.

The msm tend to make an issue out of every single glance or comment.

They do, but this particular issue seems to have originally blown up on Twitter.

@smilesy

Yes the whole thing seems a complete cock up and waste of everyone's time.

Bear in mind though that, from what I’ve read, these photos have been cropped and were taken while they were walking towards the open gates which they reached moments later. As pp have said, things are easily taken out of context and can be manipulated. It’s not always possible to think of every possible negative scenario that could arise, especially when you are in the hands of someone else’s hospitality.

Aah, now people start to realise that 'cropped' , 'manipulated' and 'out of context' exists, when we spent the last few years with this and outright lies being reported about H&M, with posters lapping it all out. Bout time K&W experience , even just a smidgen, of what H&M had to deal with.

Nothing was photoshopped or manipulated here, however, what took place, took place and should not have happened in the first place.

If the RF had that diversity team or diversity szar they promised, they would have known how jarring the pictures look

Very much agree with this, though you don't need a diversity tsar to know it would look bad - just a bit of sense

But I still maintain that W&K would have been slammed if they hadn't greeted those behind the fence, and the only other answers may have been to avoid the football ground completely, block off that area or somehow try to stop photos being taken there

And I don't imagine any of those would have gone down well either ...

@Roussette

I 'surely' know *none" of that NO. I just commented on what I saw, saying it was bad optics afaic. That is all. I do not follow Scobie but you seem to be joining up dots about me and saying I'm insulting 'our' intelligence?? No idea who. You're the only one who's gone down this route on here

I was on a thread about the royal tour or so I thought, hence the lol because of the sideswipe at MM which has obviously incensed you.
Assume and post what you want, I won't be responding to you again on this, as I can see the way this is going.

Why do you always sound so passive aggressive Rousette?

most likely because Rousette has been the target of a lot of abuse on these threads. I think they are very polite considering what they have had to put up with.

So strange to go after @Roussette, a long term poster with arguably the most measured and calm posts on these threads.

I'm going to wade in both feet first on this as an avid watcher but not a participant on these threads.
I have to say that many of the images presented this week look at the very least outdated.
BUT from my point of view William and Kate are representing the reign of The current queen, however they may view that personally.
From what I've seen on most of these threads there is a great deal of admiration and even affection for the queen and I think they are reflecting this.
I think it shows great respect to her reign and as much as people might want to see the end of a tyrannical monarchy the time is not now.
What kind of 'empire' Charles or William presides over will be down to them to design when their time comes.
However that is not now.
So to attack the optics of those carrying out the wishes of the current monarch is a futile sport.
I do believe that change will come but let's not kid ourselves it will be a republic or an utopia of equality.
If we embrace the baby steps maybe the bigger strides will come. Hopefully.