If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....

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...why would you want to have them participate in a really high-profile public bash?

Particularly one to celebrate an institution you have walked away from.

Genuinely puzzled.

@elbea, Exactly, and it begs the question as to Meghan's motive for trying to paint that "common practice" as something sinister.

@ANameChangeAgain

Our police service are not there for his private use. This is what private security is for. He doesn't work for this country by choice, so he need to dig into his own enormous pockets to fund security for his family. He is a celebrity now, not a working royal.

That's the point, he wants to pay but he wants the same level of security as others eg his cousins Beatrice and Eugenie, both of whom have police protection paid for by their dear daddy.

He is in a very similar position, non working royal with a young family.

Why is Meghan being attacked? That ‘woman’👀.

If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck and quacks like a duck

@ArcaneLana

Why is Meghan being attacked? That ‘woman’👀.

I'm sorry, is "woman" a pejorative term now? Here you are referring her as such:

"rubicscubicle these threads are always so funny. This one started off with Harry but then some posters can’t help with the Meghan bashing. This woman shouldn’t ever set foot in the UK"

I want to know how Snowdropsinourforest is apparently privy to all this intimate, personal stuff about the Windsor family relations. Tbh, I don't think I've ever seen such spitefully deranged posts. It's like some people have a grudge Harry didn't marry their daughter.

@Alltheprettyseahorses

I wouldn't mind knowing that too
You just can't come on here saying all this stuff like it's fact. It ain't.
And it's misleading.

That's the point, he wants to pay but he wants the same level of security as others eg his cousins Beatrice and Eugenie, both of whom have police protection paid for by their dear daddy.

I thought they only had police protection if they were on official duties, didn't their police protection stop a few years ago? If their father is paying for protection for them how can it be police protections if the Home Office says you can't pay for police protection.

Do the other Royal GC get police protection, Princess Anne's children and Prince Edward's children, I've never heard that discussed.

As there aren't lots of appropriately trained specialist police around to cover this (and sufficient to allow H&M to do things individually as well as together) - whose protection is reduced or temporarily removed to facilitate this? What would happen if for instance a previous Northern Ireland minister came to harm because their team were looking after H&M?

I've just looked on line and all I can find is Prince Andrew is paying for ex police officers to protect his daughters. Harry could do the same probably.

@Snowdropsinourforest

I'm really enjoying your posts. I think you've totally nailed what's going on here

@Hathertonhariden

As there aren't lots of appropriately trained specialist police around to cover this (and sufficient to allow H&M to do things individually as well as together) - whose protection is reduced or temporarily removed to facilitate this? What would happen if for instance a previous Northern Ireland minister came to harm because their team were looking after H&M?

That's very true. I wonder how many officers he wants and if he wants them round the clock.

Not wanting to do anything in the royal family does not mean you don't support the institution. @Whatiswrongwithmyknee

Why would you want to support an institution in which you believe your father and brother are trapped?

@CarlatheJackal

Can't fault them for not flying the baby over sooner. Their immunity is much better at 6months.

I think H&M are probably a pair of berks tbh, but I still think the Queen (in her age and her loneliness) would welcome the sight of her grandson.

She's got quite a few GC and GGC, I've lost count.

[quote elbea]@CallmeHendricks I have worked for a few UHNW individuals, wealthier than the Sussex’s. I always kept their passports in the office safe, I was the one that would use the passport to make bookings etc… I’d then hand them the passport and any necessary travel documents when required. It’s 100% common practice.[/quote]
Surely you do not instruct your boss to hand over their passport. It would have been a set thing that they probably either suggested or at least agreed with.

I think Meghan did not feel it was right. Even the law states you cannot keep an employee's passport, if they work for your household. She may have looked around and saw that everyone else is coming and going as they please. Others drive, I did not see her drive till she went to Canada.

And anyway, your post implies that she did not lie.

@Snowdropsinourforest

If Harry had truly wanted to introduce Lilibet to his Grandmother he has had so much opportunity before now to do so. It just so happens the book comes out this year.

This is a story from September.

I've just looked on line and all I can find is Prince Andrew is paying for ex police officers to protect his daughters. Harry could do the same probably.

Of course he could, but his argument seems to be that privately paid security don’t have access to up to the minute information on any security threat, which is why he wants actual police. Of course, as pp have said, intelligence on any actual threat would be passed on to his team, so not sure what his problem is really.

@ancientgran

That's the point, he wants to pay but he wants the same level of security as others eg his cousins Beatrice and Eugenie, both of whom have police protection paid for by their dear daddy.

I thought they only had police protection if they were on official duties, didn't their police protection stop a few years ago? If their father is paying for protection for them how can it be police protections if the Home Office says you can't pay for police protection.

Do the other Royal GC get police protection, Princess Anne's children and Prince Edward's children, I've never heard that discussed.

As far as I am aware it was removed as they dropped down the list of who is heir, but I thought it was reinstated and their father pays.

Andrew himself has 24 hour police protection.

Whatever each member of the RF has in terms of security it make sense for it to be the same, ie the police, when they are in the UK.

It's not like US security guards can bring guns in to the UK and I doubt the met would want to share details with them anyway.

The met have been known to 'hire out' officers eg when 'The Bill' was on TV they did not have actors playing armed officers, if they had a scene with whatever the UK equivelant of a SWAT team is ey employed met officers.

@CarlatheJackal

I believe the protection and intelligence should have been quietly provided without Harry needing to kick up a stink

They do these things quietly for everyone else..................... except Harry.

TBH I think it's all a bit of a non-story. If the UK Police deemed it necessary for Harry and family to have protection when they are in the country, they would provide it.

If Harry feels he needs personal security, he can provide it through his contacts - and if they needed to be aware of a particular threat they would be informed, or the Met would step in to provide protection.

The fact is that currently the Met don't feel that Harry needs protection.

@rubicscubicle Surely if she thought it was odd she’d have asked her husband, who will have assured her that it was very normal. It was necessary for staff to do their jobs efficiently and for security purposes.

Anyone remember when a gunman tried to kidnap Princess Anne? Her reply was, "Not bloody likely." I seem to remember Prince Philip making some funny comment about it but I can't remember what he said.