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The royal family

If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....

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PostingForTheFirstTime · 16/01/2022 11:49

...why would you want to have them participate in a really high-profile public bash?

Particularly one to celebrate an institution you have walked away from.

Genuinely puzzled.

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Roussette · 17/01/2022 08:24

He is coming to exploit the Royal Family, again, so why should we or they pay for it? You can't 'hire' Royal protection, it is a public service!

What nonsense. Everything you say in your posts is just what you think and don't know. It's your huge dislike coming out.

Do you have a crystal ball? You seem to know what's going to be in the book... !

Roussette · 17/01/2022 08:25

You are out of your mind if you think Harry is the 'beloved' grandson or son of anyone!! Harry has stabbed his family in the back repeatedly

Oh do give over! You're sounding completely bonkers with this vitriol on and on and on. You hate them. OK. We get that.

Snowdropsinourforest · 17/01/2022 08:33

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CarlatheJackal · 17/01/2022 08:36

@Snowdropsinourforest

You are out of your mind if you think Harry is the 'beloved' grandson or son of anyone!! Harry has stabbed his family in the back repeatedly.
He probably wants to show his beautiful baby daughter to the grandmother he named her after.

Families have rows, bust ups. They have their share of problems. The Windsors have a royal possible nonce living in their grounds. A nice-but-dim prodigal grandson and his beautiful little children could not be anything but a welcome distraction to them, IMO.

Roussette · 17/01/2022 08:38

I wish them the very best in life and hope they are happy

Bloody hell. Honestly? You come out with post after post after post of unsubstantiated nastiness and you wish them the best in life? Heck.

You even supported the Oprah interview

No I did not. I have said time and time again on threads, they should not have done that interview. So please don't make up stuff about me. I don't know who you are because you have changed your name, my name stands and I have never said that.

The book is going to be packed full of shocking details that will create more drama and damage to the RF because publisher in the world will pay millions without some serious headlining stuff! Do wake up rousette to the real world of hard money and big deals, it is embarrassing that you are the only one that can not see what they are doing

Oh do stop it. I would say the split is fairly half and half with those that don't agree with you. Or even more disagreeing with you actually.
I won't list names but they have constantly been posting on the two threads current at the moment. Sorry... I'm not the only one !

That reminds me... I could do with a [coffee] Grin

Roussette · 17/01/2022 08:40

rather than the little lost boy etched in your mind

I missed this! Lolol. He's not a little lost boy haha. He's a man with a family who he wants to protect.
Good on him.

Billandben444 · 17/01/2022 08:42

I neither like nor dislike H&M as I don't know them but the amount of vitriol spewed out on these threads is grim.

Snowdropsinourforest · 17/01/2022 08:43

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Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 17/01/2022 08:45

I detest the royal family as an institution and would abolish it in a heart beat. I also do not like the Jeremy Kyle style slagging other off which Harry and Meghan have done and do wonder how much of an additional security risk that might have caused. But that said, I think they have as much right to come to the UK for celebrations which matter to their family and some other people. Not wanting to do anything in the royal family does not mean you don't support the institution.

Snowdropsinourforest · 17/01/2022 08:46

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Pyewhacket · 17/01/2022 08:47

@ANameChangeAgain

Our police service are not there for his private use. This is what private security is for. He doesn't work for this country by choice, so he need to dig into his own enormous pockets to fund security for his family. He is a celebrity now, not a working royal.
This, totally.
Roussette · 17/01/2022 08:48

I neither like nor dislike H&M as I don't know them but the amount of vitriol spewed out on these threads is grim

Exactly. No wonder they left

Snowdrop You are making stuff up and dressing it up like it is fact. It is an opinion of yours that you dislike them intensely but you are honestly typing out hate and vitriol. You know none of this, you just put a spin on it all to quantify your extreme dislike of them.

In one breath you are saying they haven't been over with Lili, how absolutely awful, yet you are finding it quite disgusting they are even thinking about coming over.

Make your mind up!

Snowdropsinourforest · 17/01/2022 08:54

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CarlatheJackal · 17/01/2022 08:54

Can't fault them for not flying the baby over sooner. Their immunity is much better at 6months.

I think H&M are probably a pair of berks tbh, but I still think the Queen (in her age and her loneliness) would welcome the sight of her grandson.

Snowdropsinourforest · 17/01/2022 08:55

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HoppingPavlova · 17/01/2022 09:00

Private security are not allowed to be armed and may not be privy to high level security intel from the intelligence agencies. The level of security that Harry is apparently seeking, that he wishes to pay for, is from what I’ve read, unprecedented as it’s not something any private citizen can just rock up and just pay for. Harry clearly believes that there is a credible threat apparently there was some sort of incident fairly recently and he feels that he must protect Meghan and his children. But if he receives tax payer funded protection, some of the public will be up in arms against this as he’s supposed to have stepped back from official duties and, for all intents and purposes, is now a private citizen. But at the same time, he is requiring a high level of armed protection that are usually reserved for royalty and diplomatic protection of high profile royals, state figures, diplomats, and foreign diplomats etc. and he wants to pay for it which I believe would set a legal precedent.

I understand all of that but still don’t understand the concept that if intelligence was such that there was an imminent risk, they would just shrug their shoulders and go ‘oh well, that’s that then’ as that doesn’t seem to be doing their job, be it Harry visiting from the US, the US President visiting, Mariah Carey visiting or Joe Bloggs at number 23 Dowling St. Are you saying that if intelligence determined there was a credible imminent threat, they wouldn’t bother, and he is then only left with unarmed protection in that instance?

I’d have also thought that if there was a credible threat detected by intelligence services, it would have been acted up on, but it wouldn’t be the first time that something that could have been prevented if there were experienced and armed security personnel present. Who knows if Diana would have entered that car, whilst being chased by paparazzi, if she was told not to do so by an armed royal protection officer? The question is, why even take that risk?

That comparison makes little sense. There was no threat to Diana as such, lots of superstars have to deal with paparazzi. The problem was she got into a car driven by a drunk driver. You are saying any normal security protection they would have had couldn’t have told her not to get in the car with a drunk driver, only armed Royal protection officers can tell people not to get in a car with a drunk driver?

Roussette · 17/01/2022 09:00

If Harry had truly wanted to introduce Lilibet to his Grandmother he has had so much opportunity before now to do so

Ummm... covid? Not that easy!

Nothing to do with the book, despite you desperately wanting it to be so

Lol at the church halls comment haha

ThatsNiiice · 17/01/2022 09:10

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lightand · 17/01/2022 09:11

Harry is now a private citizen, domiciled in a foreign count ry

dontsaythj · 17/01/2022 09:13

@CarlatheJackal

There's a process. It's decided by the Royal and VIP Executive Committee. And no, the police and security services time aren't available for purchase by the rich.

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CallmeHendricks · 17/01/2022 09:23

A side issue, but just to go back to the passport/keys issue for a moment.
Of course those items would need to be kept safe somewhere. Can you imagine if they'd been lost on a night out somewhere? Huge security issue.
Clearly the passport was accessible to Meghan when she required it, as evidenced by the number of foreign trips she took.
Also, there is no danger of this story about Harry and security eclipsing the Andrew saga. The Mail (and others) have been salivating over every detail of that debacle for months now.
And I have not seen one single poster on here or anywhere else defending Andrew.
Re: the Sussexes' return here this year, I suspect there may be an ulterior motive on one or other side (perhaps both) to make such an appearance impossible.
I have very little interest in H&M at all now, but my opinion, if pressed, would be that it is perhaps best that they don't attend Jubilee celebrations. This is not about them, but the Queen, and the inevitable media frothing were they to turn up would be a major distraction.

elbea · 17/01/2022 09:32

@CallmeHendricks I have worked for a few UHNW individuals, wealthier than the Sussex’s. I always kept their passports in the office safe, I was the one that would use the passport to make bookings etc… I’d then hand them the passport and any necessary travel documents when required. It’s 100% common practice.

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