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If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....

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PostingForTheFirstTime · 16/01/2022 11:49

...why would you want to have them participate in a really high-profile public bash?

Particularly one to celebrate an institution you have walked away from.

Genuinely puzzled.

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AllThePogs · 17/01/2022 13:30

I have heard of Peter, but I have no idea what no idea what he does.

AllThePogs · 17/01/2022 13:31

Anne - one of the most well thought off Royals.
Harry and Meghan who have screeds of hate written about them and have a much higher profile.
And you think Anne is most at risk??

ancientgran · 17/01/2022 13:34

@AllThePogs

Anne - one of the most well thought off Royals. Harry and Meghan who have screeds of hate written about them and have a much higher profile. And you think Anne is most at risk??
Well if you read about young healthy women on here who can't do anything without "safe spaces" I think Anne as a woman in her 70s is remarkably independent. I think lots of us might be a bit nervous if a kidnapper held a gun on us and tried to pull us out of a car, some might even have PTSD.
Roussette · 17/01/2022 13:34

Peter Phillips is famous for flogging milk to the Chinese in an advert with the equivalent of Buckingham Palace in the background, and a footman serving him a glass of it.

If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....
AllThePogs · 17/01/2022 13:36

@Roussette thanks. So no one except Harry and Meghan trade on their Royal connections then?
And his ex-wife is a great asset to the Royal Family?
Just want to be clear on the official line.

rubicscubicle · 17/01/2022 13:36

@mpsw
Nature of the event isn't the key thing, though, it is that the event leads to a threat which requires mitigation.

If Harry is not happy with a threat-led approach to the provision of official security, and will only be content with blanket coverage, then it is better for him that he does not come.

I was answering the question, which relate to here as well, when the thread got full.

By that same logic, then Moss should have been told to have a small intimate wedding somewhere else.

Harry could also argue that where he goes he attracts paps and crowds - some unsavoury. I do not know the exact nature of his threat last time, but it seems there are some.

Yes, he is pre-peparing now, (he rightly may not want a last minute threat with baby Lilli and Archie around), but that is all based on past experiences. Perpetrators had been proved to be guilty.

In a certain way, its the same concept that Theresa May and Cameron ( I can understand Blair, the others I don't know much of anyone having real threatened them) have protection naturally as you don't want to act after the fact.

AllThePogs · 17/01/2022 13:38

So if I have an enormous wedding where I need crowd control, the police will provide officers?

ancientgran · 17/01/2022 13:38

@Roussette

Peter Phillips is famous for flogging milk to the Chinese in an advert with the equivalent of Buckingham Palace in the background, and a footman serving him a glass of it.
Where is he famous UK or China. I've never seen the advert so just wondered.
CarlatheJackal · 17/01/2022 13:40

I love the idea of the Chinese being able to pick out Peter Philips in a line-up when precious few of us could!Grin

ancientgran · 17/01/2022 13:40

I wonder if Diane Abbott gets protection, isn't she supposed to get the most and worst threats of all the politicians. Of course that might have changed now, I imagine Johnson is getting a bit of abuse at the moment.

AllThePogs · 17/01/2022 13:41

Omid Scobie tweeted that Charles paid for Cam’illas security from 2002 years before engagement and marriage.

Slingingcontest · 17/01/2022 13:42

@Pawprintpaper

Harry has stayed at frogmore when he has come back solo so I’m sure the family won’t make them book a premier inn
GrinGrin
smilesy · 17/01/2022 13:42

If Harry is not happy with a threat-led approach to the provision of official security, and will only be content with blanket coverage, then it is better for him that he does not come.

Completely agree. Unfortunately it would seem that the narrative is being twisted to imply that he can’t have Special Protection because of some meanness on someone’s behalf and not because of practical considerations.

ancientgran · 17/01/2022 13:43

@AllThePogs

Omid Scobie tweeted that Charles paid for Cam’illas security from 2002 years before engagement and marriage.
Was it police protection?
Roussette · 17/01/2022 13:44

You've got it Pogs.!

The actual advert is excrutiating. He styles himself in it as 'a member of the Royal Family' and there's even a replica of the horse drawn coach of the Queen's!

And let's not forget him and Autumn (the famous Autumn!) sold exclusive rights to Hello! magazine for pics of their wedding.

rubicscubicle · 17/01/2022 13:44

@Roussette

Peter Phillips is famous for flogging milk to the Chinese in an advert with the equivalent of Buckingham Palace in the background, and a footman serving him a glass of it.
On top of that he used his royal connections to get one of the government's contracts for cronies/ chums to get himself a Covid test contract despite not having any medical background or anything related.

They have a branch in Chelsea, when the tests were a bit hard to get, I remember I almost booked a test for £230 a pop - and I think that was one of the cheapest.

If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....
If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....
ancientgran · 17/01/2022 13:44

@CarlatheJackal

I love the idea of the Chinese being able to pick out Peter Philips in a line-up when precious few of us could!Grin
I wouldn't recognise him from that advert. He doesn't resemble his parents does he. Zara is like her mother I think.
Wheresthebeach · 17/01/2022 13:45

He's not a working Royal. He chose to leave. He can use his millions to pay for private security for the few days he's here (followed by a Netflix crew for their next 'tell all' event).

The UK police aren't for hire.

Roussette · 17/01/2022 13:47

ancientgran I think he's quite good looking. Even when flogging chinese milk Grin

AllThePogs · 17/01/2022 13:47

According to Robert Jenson, retired Scottish Police Protection Officers were hired to be Camilla’s security and could liaise with the police.
Charles put up Camilla’s father in Clarence House (some years before the marriage) and he got security.
Prince Andrew also pays for Rpya; Protection Officer’s supplied by the Yard to guard Beatrice & Eugenie. Current officers, not retired.

ancientgran · 17/01/2022 13:48

@Roussette

You've got it Pogs.!

The actual advert is excrutiating. He styles himself in it as 'a member of the Royal Family' and there's even a replica of the horse drawn coach of the Queen's!

And let's not forget him and Autumn (the famous Autumn!) sold exclusive rights to Hello! magazine for pics of their wedding.

Well he's the Queen's grandson like Harry so why wouldn't he be a member of the Royal Family? Or have I got the wrong person, I think he's Princess Anne's son.

I don't think it's very stylish to sell photos of your wedding but it isn't against the law so I'm not sure why it would be a problem. I think sometimes people think they have more control if they sell the photos rather than have unauthorised ones circulating.

ancientgran · 17/01/2022 13:50

@Roussette

ancientgran I think he's quite good looking. Even when flogging chinese milk Grin
I just had another look, on second thoughts I think he does look a bit like his father round the eyes. I'm afraid I'm not keen on beards, bit unfortunate as DH has decided to grow one which I find very off putting.
Roussette · 17/01/2022 13:50

When flogging milk to the Chinese he styles himself as 'a member of the RF'.

Just imagine for one minute, one small minute... Harry doing that. With a replica of BP in the background, and a golden coach and horses like the Queen uses... and a footman in a grand corridor serving you a glass of the white stuff.

MN would explode!

rubicscubicle · 17/01/2022 13:51

Was it police protection?

Royal to boot.

At least, he did not burden the taxpayer.

For Pippa, it looks like the taxpayer had to pay for a private citizen to have the 'royal' protection see to her even though there were no royals present at the function.

If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....
If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....
If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....
AllThePogs · 17/01/2022 13:51

@Roussette

You've got it Pogs.!

The actual advert is excrutiating. He styles himself in it as 'a member of the Royal Family' and there's even a replica of the horse drawn coach of the Queen's!

And let's not forget him and Autumn (the famous Autumn!) sold exclusive rights to Hello! magazine for pics of their wedding.

Thanks! I will have to look for the advert on youtube.

Of course, the rules are simple. If Harry and Meghan do it, it is wrong.
If anyone else does it, there are good reasons.

This applies from everything to wearing a dress off one shoulder, putting your hands in your pockets when on an engagement using your Royal connections to make money, to publicly criticising the Royal Family members.