If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....

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...why would you want to have them participate in a really high-profile public bash?

Particularly one to celebrate an institution you have walked away from.

Genuinely puzzled.

I don't have huge views either way in this or what he did or chose.

However He is 6th in line to the throne so I don't feel it is unreasonable for his family to have U.K. police protection whilst in U.K. at request of our Queen.

Yes he walked away from
being a working royal. Yes he has made bad decisions. Been destructive, lost confidence of U.K. population... But no one wants him or his family to be at risk and unsafe when in U.K.

He is a target for paparazzi when here. He has reason to fear their intrusiveness and sometimes their irresponsible behaviour to get photos.

We can't fund security when he chooses to live in a different country as a non working royal. But we can ask police to protect him whilst he is in our country.

For once I don't think he is unreasonable to ask this. I just hate the way he goes about everything. He comes across badly. But it doesn't mean it isn't a genuine request

He is entitled to visit his home country safely when ever he wants, ask why the press would make such a "hoopla" about it and put him and his family at risk. This is on the press that we all know.

@Snowdropsinourforest

Meghan I mean. I think she was fairly old (and now forty) when she met Harry and reaching/reached her peak with her acting career - so Harry was a good option to turbo charge her finances and future. It was a good move as it turned out, for the short term anyway.

Forty is old?

Are you Prince Andrew?

Prince Harry is not longer an asset to U.K. royals in fact we can all agree he is a liability from his behaviour towards royal family. But he still IS rial family and in a short line to the throne. So I agree police protection for him whilst in U.K. is not an unreasonable request.

Genuinely laughing at some of the nonsense written here.

Does his protection team in California have any intel from the FBI or homeland security ? Or is California much safer than The Uk? If not then he is BU.

Genuinely laughing at some of the nonsense written here

And me!

Making out Autumn is a valuable asset to the RF as a means to knock Harry and Meghan is one of the most bizarre things I've ever read on here!

It strikes me that most people would accept (albeit grudgingly) the decisions of the government of a sovereign state they intend to visit (whether this is security, covid rules, visa requirements etc) and adapt their plans accordingly. Harry’s other choices would be to spend time with his family at Windsor/balmoral/buck palace and entertain friends at frogmore all under palace security, to do his private activities under his own security detail, or to decide not to come.

Taking the government to court so he can have a police security detail to take the kids to legoland or to play polo isn’t a good look.

I just hate the way he goes about everything. He comes across badly. But it doesn't mean it isn't a genuine request

I think he is portrayed as coming about badly, when he is asking for things that other people do all the time.

Sadly rubics your links won't get commented on. Doesn't fit the agenda.

What's not clear from those links is why the police took the action. Was it because they were asked to because the 'target' didn't feel safe, or because they were acting in a threat assessment, which they would of course do regardless of who was the target?

Because counter examples would be Madonnas wedding - where police advised but a private security firm did the actual task) - and presumable the difference is the nature of the anticipated threat. For some, it is rightly not a police matter and therefore the business of the target's own security.

Police will routinely share threat assessments with a target (and/or their security team) and will act when there is a need for them rather than private arrangements. They don't provide security as a matter of course to private individuals other than via those channels.

It says right there that the police were paid. This was a wedding. I would assume they would tell Moss' security details about a specific threat, I don't see why they would be hired and paid to secure a wedding.

Nor why royal police would go to a private citizen's event instead of just normal police or at least why they would not just liase with the private security detail, as has been suggested on here.

@Roussette

Sadly rubics your links won't get commented on. Doesn't fit the agenda.

Well someone has already complained about the time, even though it happened.

It does not however say on what basis they were assigned. You seem to be assuming they did it in request, rather than to meet an assessed threat. And that payment was to purchase services, rather than to defray costs of an operation that would have taken place anyhow,

@Pawprintpaper

It strikes me that most people would accept (albeit grudgingly) the decisions of the government of a sovereign state they intend to visit (whether this is security, covid rules, visa requirements etc) and adapt their plans accordingly. Harry’s other choices would be to spend time with his family at Windsor/balmoral/buck palace and entertain friends at frogmore all under palace security, to do his private activities under his own security detail, or to decide not to come.

Taking the government to court so he can have a police security detail to take the kids to legoland or to play polo isn’t a good look.

You keep assuming the Royal Family will allow that. They may have said no.

Harry has stayed at frogmore when he has come back solo so I’m sure the family won’t make them book a premier inn

I think he should skip the event. No one cares whether he is there or not

I think a lot of people know who Autumn is……….

@Nishkin

I think a lot of people know who Autumn is……….

I have no idea who she is.

Really?

Doubtful. I'd love to do a straw poll with the man in the street haha. And still wondering how she is an asset to the Royal Family. No idea, she's never in the press doing anything.

Just googled. Autumn is Peter Phillips ex-wife. So why would people know who she is?

@AllThePogs you are not a representative sample of the UK population- sorry to break it to you

@Snowdropsinourforest

Anne rides by herself as well, she doesn't need a whole squad of security, she just lives her life. She has a much higher profile than Harry, and carries out many more hours of public duty than most royals, does she have hissy fits and makes demands, no, she gets on with her life's work and counts her blessings.

Well she saw off an armed kidnapper, they're probably afraid to try anything with her.