Harry to sue UK governmdnt

[Viviennemary]

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding.

Whats the point in suing the Govt, the money would be better spent on hiring a private bodyguard

Very possibly, but if he'd just got on quietly with hiring someone he'd have missed the opportunity for a bit more profile-polishing and reminding folk of his royal status - something which he still appears to need to keep the money rolling in, just like so many other members of this rotten family

Maybe he's going to charities or visiting Invictus people he knows. Swanning around... rightio ... hmm I agree he should get special protection but this mawkish support is awful. Harry isn't a saint. I would be quite happy if Harry got what he wanted for just simple visits to friends and family.

Maybe he's going to charities or visiting Invictus people he knows

Why does he need to use Special Protection armed officers for that? Or to visit his mothers grave which is on a private estate. He obviously needs security but he can’t expect Special Protection officers to be available at his beck and call.

[quote AllThePogs]@Doubleraspberry why do you think police would not leave him unprotected if there was a risk?
You do know this is political, and influenced heavily by the Royal Family/ If the Royal Family say no security, he won't get any, whatever the risk.[/quote]
How do you know this? I understood that the Met made the decisions.

He's not suing - he's launched a judicial review into the decision making.

One of the things that goes with official is CP is veto on certain sorts of outting. I can't quite see them really signing up for that, and am left wondering what he really hopes to achieve.

@LondonWolf

Yes it couldn't possibly be a mixed race family tied to the establishment by blood, with a history of neo nazi threats against them wanting to be able to protect their children (and pay for that protection)

Small part of it yes. Harry is extremely preoccupied with having to pay for and provide his own security though. It comes up repeatedly. As for the racism claims I think they're overblown and conveniently plopped down when necessary both by H&M and also here on MN. Don't bother attacking me for that either. I don't care 😊

the racism "claims" were warnings from UK intelligence. As such an expert in the security forces its astonishing you don't know that.

If you really were not aware of racism against them in the press and wider you were not looking closely. Perhaps you only take on white client in your capacity as a security expert and don't have to worry about racist threats against high profile people who are not white.

I'm Pope Francis btw.

derxa Mawkish support and saying he's a saint? Not me.
However, he deserves to feel safe because of who he is, like it or not.

AllThePogs

@smilesy he has been told by the police the risk is high. He and his family have to travel to get to the Royal family or events like the Jubilee. They may have to stay overnight and there is no indication they have ever been invited to stay on the Royal Family estate more recently.

I haven’t read that he was told the risk to him was high ? Do you have a link ? It seems a strange thing to be made public .

@Chilledchablis1

AllThePogs

@smilesy he has been told by the police the risk is high. He and his family have to travel to get to the Royal family or events like the Jubilee. They may have to stay overnight and there is no indication they have ever been invited to stay on the Royal Family estate more recently.

I haven’t read that he was told the risk to him was high ? Do you have a link ? It seems a strange thing to be made public .

It hasn't been made public. The relevant organisations are making no comment because they never do on security matters such as thus.

It's Harrys own assertion that is being reported

@Roussette

derxa Mawkish support and saying he's a saint? Not me. However, he deserves to feel safe because of who he is, like it or not.

I agree with your second sentence but any slight criticism of Harry triggers this defensiveness and implications that he is better than other people. We all 'swan around' at times. The daft thing is that Harry doesn't give a shit about any of us. There is no need to worry about him seeing as he's living his dream life.

@Snowdropsinourforest

If you want to talk about Airmiles Andy start your own thread, stop hijacking every single thread that has nothing at all to do with him, it is annoying.

Airmiles Andy is very relevant to this thread. The months old story misrepresenting Harry's case was stirred up just as the palace wanted to get Andrew off the front pages. Job done.

Its also enabled them to bury the items about his lawyers pushing for access to Guiffre's medical records and therapy notes in the fine old tradition of "trash the victim" - that was also pushed out of the focus due to the Harry story. Job done twice.

So we have the RF throwing a younger member of the family who chose a different life to the press. At the same time another who has has spent decades milking his connections for all they are worth and shagging anything that moves continues to benefit from free mansions and protection of Royal Estates and support including retention of all royal titles until they were forced to take at least that much action.

Says a lot of about the family on the pedestal.

mpsw

Chilledchablis1
AllThePogs

“@smilesy he has been told by the police the risk is high. He and his family have to travel to get to the Royal family or events like the Jubilee. They may have to stay overnight and there is no indication they have ever been invited to stay on the Royal Family estate more recently.

I haven’t read that he was told the risk to him was high ? Do you have a link ? It seems a strange thing to be made public .
It hasn't been made public. The relevant organisations are making no comment because they never do on security matters such as thus.

It's Harrys own assertion that is being reported. “

So………more pie in the sky !??

The UK Police are charged with protecting the public, preventing and investigation of crime. If the credible threat deems heightened protection then resources will be diverted to cover this.

With the caveat that there are not endless resources. Even with a short term cash injection. As of the recent developments, a police officer (basic uniform) pc will take 3 years to make (Tory govt move to degree educated cops). This does not include the enhanced specialised training for firearms or close protection. That takes another 2-3.

Harry is working on the same clueless and entitled premise as those who think chucking a few mill at the nhs will make a dent on the problems, ignoring the difficulties recruiting into the thankless roles,and the length of training.

These private schools teach fuck all, don’t they?!

I agree with your second sentence but any slight criticism of Harry triggers this defensiveness and implications that he is better than other people

Who from? I don't think he's better than anyone else, that's for sure.

The nastiness on this and the other thread though, is bad, very bad. And all for someone who wants to protect his family, and pay for that protection.
You couldn't make it up

It's Harrys own assertion that is being reported

So………more pie in the sky !??

Put simply there's no way of knowing; he's made other assertions which turned out to have no basis, but whether this is one of them is impossible to say (though it's not stopped some recounting it as a fact)

@Chilledchablis1

I find it interesting that the MOS website has now moved this story way down its page below the Tonga tsunami, Djokovic and other stories, similarly the BBC Website . I am watching Sky News and, so far , no mention. Maybe people are not so interested in H and M nowadays ?

I hope it was "moved" because Tonga is a colossal story.

@Puzzledandpissedoff

It's Harrys own assertion that is being reported

So………more pie in the sky !??

Put simply there's no way of knowing; he's made other assertions which turned out to have no basis, but whether this is one of them is impossible to say (though it's not stopped some recounting it as a fact)

'no basis?'

I would say, having several people convicted and in jail is a 'basis'.

Only thing I don't understand is why Meghan gave her daughter that name and why they still want to be known as Sussexes

Because they made it clear they have no problem with the queen personally. From what they say, there are certain individuals within the firm who are giving bad advice.

Hypothetically, if PC were to take over, and hire completely new staff, get rid of all the bigots in there, the institution would work differently.

I would say, having several people convicted and in jail is a 'basis'.

Not really. Those people were arrested and convicted before they were able to become a threat. And as they are now in jail they are not part of any ongoing threat. One bunch of nutters doesn’t mean that HaM are necessarily in continuing danger.

This whole DM/Palace leak doesn’t stack up when you look and see how many articles there are on PA and I see there is a rather illuminating new piece on PA😮, it’s a corker but the source is no angel (another out for his 5 mins of fame).

I’ll post it on the PA thread in just a mo if no one else has already.

And as they are now in jail they are not part of any ongoing threat. One bunch of nutters doesn’t mean that HaM are necessarily in continuing danger

So you know for a fact do you... that there's no more 'nutters' out there? How would you know this?
That is a ridiculous thing to say, sorry but it is.

I would say, having several people convicted and in jail is a 'basis'

So would I, except that they can't do much damage now they're in jail

Of course they're just the ones they've caught, but my overall point is that I'd no more take Harry's assertions as gospel than I would any other RF member's when there have already been so many lies

Because they made it clear they have no problem with the queen personally. Well that's big of them!

its fair enough if hes offering to pay , at least for once hes not assuming hes entitled to it for nothing , but obviously its not as simple as someone else has said ,as he would be effectively renting the police
i have to wonder how fussed the rest of the royals really are at this point in seeing them anyway
everytime they do come over it seems to be tension and stress for them and what appears at least from what we see picture and report wise an atmostphere . wouldnt surprise me if william or the queen just told them not to bother and stay over there

If anyone on this thread has been publicly branded a race traitor and/or received credible death threats from the UK and abroad relating to you, your partner and/or your children as a result of your family, please step to the front of the queue.

If not, I’m a bit surprised you feel qualified to criticise him.

No one’s ever threatened to murder my children. It literally doesn’t cross my mind that that might actually happen.

How about you?