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The royal family

Harry to sue UK governmdnt

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Viviennemary · 15/01/2022 22:37

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding. Shock

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DoubleShotEspresso · 15/01/2022 23:21

@Chilledchablis1

My understanding is that he wants police protection rather than private protection . I’m not sure how him offering to pay for it would work . Why not just pay for private security if he feels the need ? He isn’t a working royal so why does he need police protection? Anne , Edward , Beatrice etc only have police protection whilst doing official duties so why is H different?
Private security has nowhere near the credence, professionalism or access to up to the minute global intelligence. There are existing threats to both himself and Meghan, he naturally I'm sure fears the reception they'd be likely to receive but also the risks are super high. He simply wants to pay for the best available so he can safely visit his home. I can't see why this is such an offensive thing to do. When is the right time for him to do anything? He can't win
nottodaybatman · 15/01/2022 23:22

Harry was born Royal, served 2 tours of Afghanistan and there are credible racist neo nazi threats against him, meghan and their children.

His security needs to work with UK police to keep them safe if they come back to the UK. And he is offering to pay for it. I see no issue here.

This is old news and was clearly released by the mail in cahoots with the Royal Family to distract from the optics that Andrew is still getting tax payer funded security

The real question is why would the police and home office not let Harry pay. The racism against Meghan and their babies has never gone away.

HandlebarLadyTash · 15/01/2022 23:23

What is he doing that requires police protection? What will the man do in 5 years when interest in him has gone, how will he earn money I hope he dosent come back to the UK to return to royal duties. Hopefully him going will keep the RF nice and slimlined. Im not keen on monarchy but can apreceate that they keep the country interesting.

dontsaythj · 15/01/2022 23:24

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UniversalAunt · 15/01/2022 23:25

So, he didn’t read the small print of the working royal contract before he tore it up & flounced off elsewhere.

A case of buyer beware.

Sounds like a storm in an egg cup.

He is asking for something that he was likely told would be unavailable when he left the RF - he has form for this re: Archie’s eligibility for a title - & this will be fodder to flame when he cannot get over here as he pleases, e.g. Grannie’s funeral, Daddy’s coronation.

He wanted a non-royal private life.
These are the terms he chose.

LovePoppy · 15/01/2022 23:27

@nottodaybatman

Harry was born Royal, served 2 tours of Afghanistan and there are credible racist neo nazi threats against him, meghan and their children.

His security needs to work with UK police to keep them safe if they come back to the UK. And he is offering to pay for it. I see no issue here.

This is old news and was clearly released by the mail in cahoots with the Royal Family to distract from the optics that Andrew is still getting tax payer funded security

The real question is why would the police and home office not let Harry pay. The racism against Meghan and their babies has never gone away.

Perhaps they, like many others (incl here), refuse to believe that they were subjected to racism.
nocoolnamesleft · 15/01/2022 23:27

He didn't want anything to do with royal privilege. He has made his bed.

Viviennemary · 15/01/2022 23:28

Yes that seems to be slightly misreported by the DM. Can we all get access to police protection if we fund it ourselves. He has got some nerve.

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AnneElliott · 15/01/2022 23:28

The UK doesn't allow people to pay for police protection. You either get it because there's a credible threat or you don't.

Paying for it would be a slippery slope to bolster rich peoples egos - plus the fact close protection is a scarce specialist resource.

CovidCorvid · 15/01/2022 23:28

Why does he need “intelligence”. Surely if the U.K. police/security services become aware of a specific threat they will do something/tell someone.

They won’t just think “fuck it”.

So he can pay for private security while he’s here, I’m sure he can find people trained to fend off nutters and wannabe kidnappers. And the U.K. intelligence and police will step in and assist if there’s a specific threat. Win win.

amusedtodeath1 · 15/01/2022 23:28

Why would they let him pay for protection when no one else can?

He's spent the last two years telling everyone how little he thinks of us, our country and his family, why does he think anyone cares.

He's a rich man, he can afford to hire the very best security. He's made himself a security risk with his insulting and incessant whining.

Maybe the best way forward is his own security and if he asks very nicely maybe the UK security services can liaise with his security if he ever has the stones to show his face.

Closebrackets · 15/01/2022 23:31

@Viviennemary

Yes that seems to be slightly misreported by the DM. Can we all get access to police protection if we fund it ourselves. He has got some nerve.
Why has he got some nerve? Confused. Do you have copious amounts of money to pay for police protection? Were you put into the spotlight from birth with no choice in the matter? If yes to those then you should be able to pay for protection too. It'd be lovely for the queen to see her great grandchildren I'm sure.
LittleBearPad · 15/01/2022 23:34

In the absence of such protection, Prince Harry and his family are unable to return to his home.

Oh well. I imagine we’ll survive

UniversalAunt · 15/01/2022 23:35

Many people in the public eye have credible threats made against them. A bit of people watching in London’s more exclusive shopping streets will show you individuals going about their ‘everyday’ business with a set of bodyguards in close formation around them.

There is a considerable private security sector (staffed by ex elite forces) who provide protection for global oligarchs & their families etc. London is considerate one of the safest cities for the global elites to live in.

Harry can pay security people here to protect him. He cannot bring over his US based security team to work for him in London. This came up a few months ago & he was pushed back.

Why this has come up again, who knows?

Andrew’s case rumbles on & Harry is not nearly interesting enough to be a distraction.

nottodaybatman · 15/01/2022 23:35

The optics actually look awful for the UK

Allowing a blood royal veteran with credible racist threats access to intelligence (that the police already) is not ridiculous. Refusing to allow access even if he pays looks racist and petty.
The RF heads up a largely non white commonwealth.

And once more this is old news. You can agree or disagree it doesn't really matter.

The question is why have the Mail released a story that is very biased at THIS time. Who benefits from all us discussing a conversation from 2020?

dontsaythj · 15/01/2022 23:36

@Closebrackets

Great idea. Let's have a two tier policing system - the plebs having to phone the police if/when something occurs, the rich being able to pay for round the clock protection.

Let's allow a scant and overstretched service to be used privately by any rich tosser on an ego trip.

Get real.

He can pay for private bodyguards. They contact the police in the event of a crime/incident like anyone else.

amusedtodeath1 · 15/01/2022 23:36

He's much less liked than used to be, he used to be a beloved member of the RF, after OW, he's pretty much the most disliked (after Andrew and Meghan).

He created this mess, he's showing no sign of understanding how anyone else feels about all this and no sign of regret.

He can't pay for police protection and tax payers won't tolerate him getting it for free.

LittleBearPad · 15/01/2022 23:37

@amusedtodeath1

He's much less liked than used to be, he used to be a beloved member of the RF, after OW, he's pretty much the most disliked (after Andrew and Meghan).

He created this mess, he's showing no sign of understanding how anyone else feels about all this and no sign of regret.

He can't pay for police protection and tax payers won't tolerate him getting it for free.

Let’s face it - he’s a wanker
ChicCroissant · 15/01/2022 23:37

He probably wants access to the intelligence about potential threats, it's the reason that the UK Police couldn't work indefinitely in Canada when he first went there - there are protocols for visiting Royals/dignitaries/whoever, but the protocols were not drawn up with permanent residence in mind and to be fair, they didn't give anyone a chance to sort this kind of detail out in advance.

More litigation isn't really the way to solve the issue IMO, certainly not the quickest way either!

Dreamstate · 15/01/2022 23:38

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nottodaybatman · 15/01/2022 23:39

Also meant to add.

Harry was born into a hereditary arm of our government. He stepped back but he is still part of the firm so he never truly gets to be a private citizen. Also if the rules were no work, no security or access to intel.... why were these rules not applied to Andrew

The discrepancy looks awful and inexplicable

UniversalAunt · 15/01/2022 23:39

What Harry wants, Harry gets!

No.
Now be a good boy & go back to bed…somewhere else.

TizerorFizz · 15/01/2022 23:40

There is Always A Fuss About Harry! It’s relentless. He’s decided to go abroad and not participate here. So he doesn’t get the perks. No doubt the Queen could extend her Royal Protection to him. She doesn’t do as much these days. So maybe her Royal Protection could be redirected for a few days? Everything Harry does has a cost attached or there’s an issue that needs resolving. He could just buy an armour plated car and stay with the Queen.

amusedtodeath1 · 15/01/2022 23:40

As a PP said if our police agencies pick up a specific threat against them, there's zero chance they wouldn't pass that on to Harry's security team.

DoubleShotEspresso · 15/01/2022 23:40

@nottodaybatman

The optics actually look awful for the UK

Allowing a blood royal veteran with credible racist threats access to intelligence (that the police already) is not ridiculous. Refusing to allow access even if he pays looks racist and petty.
The RF heads up a largely non white commonwealth.

And once more this is old news. You can agree or disagree it doesn't really matter.

The question is why have the Mail released a story that is very biased at THIS time. Who benefits from all us discussing a conversation from 2020?

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