Harry to sue UK governmdnt

[Viviennemary]

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding.

Ah - well - & I will echo other posts here

1. Harry has been used to to Royal funded protection for ages - that's clear but did he think this all through before he emigrated.
2. If he dropped out of the Royal Family and does nothing in the way of Royal engagements - where he may get protection on those engagements like Aunty Anne - Uncle Edward etc - he does not have it - he does no Royal engagements & that's the rule.
3. If he can pay for his own security out of the £££$$$ he is earning then I would think it would be fair to set up a decent liaison between his own security & the police when he visits the UK but whilst abroad - pay his own.
4. In no way would I like to think he can pay his money to "hire" the police - they are stretched enough and not waiting around for him to decide if and when he wants to visit
5. Harry is pretty much irrelevant to the RF now so - not to say not high profile and a target but personal security could probably deal with that.
6. Grow up

@Lockupyourbiscuits

He knows he won’t have to pay That bit is false

It’s disingenuous but a clever strategy to garner support

He knew he would lose the security when he left as it would have been pointed out but the strategy is to plough ahead then force the issue

It’s always push push push

Considering that he paid for Frogmore, this is an odd statement.

The rf are clearly not on his side on anything. Do not protect him on anything, but rather the opposite. Why would they get him to not pay? The only reason he would not pay would be because that would be in line with the rules and regulations, that is all.

@Snowdropsinourforest

The problem is that we are not paying anymore ditty he does absolutely nothing for our country apart from try and damage it endlessly for cash. So no he isn't even welcome, much less laying on the red carpet with security. No one wants to see the sussexes ruin a beautiful and happy celebration for the Queen and our country.

I don't want to pay for security, they should organise their own arrangements as they wished to do when they left the RF.

We can hardly call him the Queen's grandson after all he has done, maybe in name, but nothing more.

Seriously? Now his blood ties should be severed from a granny he apparently has a lovely relationship with? Because you're not happy with his behaviour?! Ffs

@MindyStClaire

Haven't read the story, but Harry and his children need security because of the constitutional position they were born into, a situation they had no control over. Credible threats have been made against their lives because of it.

The UK should absolutely be funding their security and that of other high profile royals, ex PMs (even the awful ones and even Boris when the time finally comes) and anyone else who needs it because of their position or former position within the UK governing structure.

I completely agree with this. Also, he wants to pay himself, so isn't expecting the UK taxpayer to fund it, so I really don't see why his request has been refused.

I'm no longer an H&M fan, but I agree with him on this. He needs to be able to be in the UK and have adequate protection when here.

ditty
I'm afraid it is serious. He should dye his hair and disappear apparently. Said upthread.

@BringBackThinEyebrows

Thank you!

I love your user name. There's rarely a week that goes by when I don't see a dreadful eyebrow and think the same

He is hardly ever here, when he comes over then just let him use the police who are already at the event, how often are they planning to come over anyway?. The Jubilee, the Queens death and the crowning of the new King. Whats the point in suing the Govt, the money would be better spent on hiring a private bodyguard.

If the poor woman makes it that far with all the shenanigans and grief they are causing

Harry does not, I repeat have a 'lovely' relationship with his grandmother

Prove that. I have read the opposite

@Snowdropsinourforest

Seriously? Now his blood ties should be severed from a granny he apparently has a lovely relationship with? Because you're not happy with his behaviour?!

How can anyone seriously be so deluded, Harry does not, I repeat have a 'lovely' relationship with his grandmother. She back stabbed the entire family and ruined the last months of Prince Phillips' life - Prince Phillip was extremely disappointed and dismayed at Harry's behaviour on the Oprah show, how anyone thinks Harry is coming back from that really doesn't know much about the Royal Family. He is now a rank 'outsider' and will remain so.

Hence the situation we have before us.

How does anyone know?! How do you know?! It's 2022 and her maj, despite her advancing years, seems to want to be on the right side of history regarding this. Just like when she wore the EU hat after the Brexit vote. I'd get rid of the lot of 'em tomorrow, but on a human scale I'm team Harry Meghan and ER2, not team Piers Morgan and the Daily Fail.

observer.com/2021/04/prince-harry-queen-elizabeth-relationship-sympathetic-support-similarities-princess-margaret-royal-rebel/

Wasn't he going to sue over the baby name accusation ? HM must have known what the BBC was told with regards to Lilli's name

@MayThePawsBeWithYou

If the poor woman makes it that far with all the shenanigans and grief they are causing

Because of course if the NINETY SIX year old queen dies before June it'll be H & M's fault. Just really take a moment to think about what you've said. Please.

Pretty please could someone clarify for me exactly what Prince Harry would like in terms of security as I’m completely confused now:

1. is he wanting MET police protection, which he says he will pay for privately?
2. to hire and pay for UK private security but for them to be able to liaise with the MET Or
3. to hire and pay for his own private U.K. security team and for them have to have direct access to special intelligence services?

Or is there a 4th one that I‘ve missed?

TIA

This is so misleading, and he has every right to find out why he has been treated so differently from other people coming over to visit. He only wants some cooperation and will fund it himself. A lot of the treatment of him and Megan seems really spiteful.

'Seriously? Now his blood ties should be severed from a granny he apparently has a lovely relationship with? Because you're not happy with his behaviour?! Ffs'

Had a lovely relationship with, perhaps. None of us know but I cannot believe she has a lovely relationship with him after he flounced then threw them all under the bus and made shit up repeatedly. I bet they all say 'ffs' when his name is mentioned too..

What I want to know is who's facilitating Harry jumping the queue again to get a court hearing this fast? The court system is grinding even more slowly than usual thanks to the pandemic backlog and yet here's Harry with another of his pet peeves pushing to the front.

He filed in September so it's not exactly fast

@Snowdropsinourforest

user I am afraid you seem rather clueless yourself. Of course everyone knows they now have separate and competing interests and media circles. Everyone knows the Queen is wonderfully committed and a very intelligent and wise person - we also know that how strong she is, and the kind of terrible damage and shame Harry has brought to the family will never be forgiven.

How do you know all of that? What makes you think you can speak for everyone? I don't think the Queen is very intelligent or wise, she's always been very focused on keeping the family business going though, that would be fair to say.

The imagined shame and damage you mention is nothing compared to the fallout from the behaviour of other members of the family. Or at least it shouldn't be.

@cherryonthecakes

He filed in September so it's not exactly fast

Has anyone any idea how long a judicial review takes?

Or seen when this one is expected to report?

I assume that there will be pressure to rule on this before Jubilee events start in June but no clue about timelines.

@Rosewaterblossom

In a way I do feel sorry for him. I mean he didn't ask to born into the Royal Family and was hardly in a position to say he didn't want to grow up with a title and be in that family. Now he's in a position where he can't live a life away from his family without there always being a risk for his safety purely because of what he was born in to.

I wonder how people would feel if he was kidnapped or murdered because of who he is being such a target for terrorists or the like.

Most people can go and live away from their family and have a nice life. Harry can do that yes, but will always have the threat of harm to himself and family because of what he was born in to, not something he chose.

Quite right. Either he should receive armed police protection in the UK or he doesn’t. My vote would be for the former. It doesn’t matter what level of protection Andrew or any high profile royal receives as long as there is a credible threat.

Unfortunately apart from Harry’s own private security, the level of protection he’s seeking to pay for, is simply something he cannot pay for that as it’s apparently to get approval from the Home Secretary…hired armed guards must be needed either in case of national interest or there should be some sort of terrorist threat. Thus, if this incident Harry mentioned really took place, then there should be no ifs about it, he and his family would need armed protection whenever they’re in UK and it cannot not be paid by a private citizen. I’d have thought the royal family would go out of their way to make sure that Harry and Meghan and their little ones receive a high level of protection, unless the intel that they’ve been provided somehow makes them believe the threat isn’t credible. But why take that risk?

I find it interesting that the MOS website has now moved this story way down its page below the Tonga tsunami, Djokovic and other stories, similarly the BBC Website . I am watching Sky News and, so far , no mention.
Maybe people are not so interested in H and M nowadays ?