Harry to sue UK governmdnt

[Viviennemary]

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding.

If you believe Harry's crime are worse than grooming, paedophilia and hanging with despots I assume you are fine with the optics.

As someone on the fence I see the discrepancies!

So did Diana and Fergie
Sophie was caught being none to discreet about her inlaws too and of course uncle Andy spoke with Emily Maitlis on newsnight

Charles has trashed his family too, saying the Queen was not a good mum.

Exactly, seems to be the status quo so I don't understand why Harry is the devil incarnate!

You're just making it up.

No from what I have seen and heard - I actually have contacts in the close protection industry due to my background in the forces and also specific employment I had after I left the forces, combined with his focus on it in the Oprah interview and now this, I believe that paying for his own security and not being able to access the security he believes to be his right is the issue which prevents him from moving on and enjoying his new, non royal life. I'm sorry @Roussette I know you don't like being disagreed with and believe yourself to the authority on all things Haz and Meg but on this I don't think you know as much as you think you do. Stop trying to force everyone to agree with you.

I don’t believe Tony Blair ever had Royal Protection Officers. Ex PMs do get some protection but again it’s up to the government what they get.

Blair has MPS close protection officers. They do the same job in the same way, at the same cost. I think the Met teams are now merged into one close protection SO.

@nottodaybatman

Whatever the sussexes are and might do is irrelevant

The RF has treated the sex offender with more grace, patience and protection than Harry.

If you believe Harry's crime are worse than grooming, paedophilia and hanging with despots I assume you are fine with the optics.

If not this story is very embarrassing for the RF and speaks to their desperation with the tabloids that they pushed this story out there without thinking Harry would correct the obvious lie that he does not want to pay security costs

Either way I am pleased that it is clear why the sussesxes are not returning and clarified that Mail continues it fine journalistic standards

If you believe Harry's crime are worse than grooming, paedophilia and hanging with despots I assume you are fine with the optics.

Who said that?

Are you replying to the comment that Andrew is an alleged sex offender and has not yet been convicted? Because that is factually correct.

We know that Harry is a racist and we know he's happy to discuss the Royal Family on American TV shows. That's not suggesting he's worse than Andrew, just that there's proof that cannot be disputed.

You brought up Andrew on your first comment on this thread and have probably mentioned him since but I can't be bothered to check.

@LondonWolf

You told me you weren't my Research Assistant and to go and look. I did. I was very careful with the date parameters to be sure I was having a thorough check.
I found nothing.

I am not trying to force anyone to agree with me. You told me to go and look. I did.

By the way, his name is Harry.

@dafey

I actually have contacts in the close protection industry due to my background in the forces

😆😆 course you do!

I'm ex army and used to work for various celebrities, not in security but certainly alongside them and assisting in coordinating household movements with the team.

So yes I do

I can understand Harry's anxiety about security given what happened to his mother. I don't blame him for doing as much as he can to keep his family safe. It's no skin off my nose if he gets what he wants. However for me he gets more annoying as each month passes. And yes he did trash his family on TV. What that's got to do with Andrew I've no idea.

Literally no one cares

By the way, his name is Harry.

Your protectiveness knows no bounds @Roussette.

@dafey

Literally no one cares

You cared enough to challenge me...

@TizerorFizz

I don’t believe Tony Blair ever had Royal Protection Officers. Ex PMs do get some protection but again it’s up to the government what they get.

Anyone can get police protection if it’s deemed necessary. My sister did for a while due to the job her husband did and a short term specific threat made against the family. When I’d go and visit there were plain clothes police parked outside. Didn’t last long.

When I was a kid a friend of mine her grandad was retired but had been very high up in govt and when he came to visit there were marked police at the village entrance parked up 24/7 and plain clothes police at the house. That lasted all his life I believe. Due to a specific IRA threat.

So if the police did think Harry needed protection while here I think he would get it.

I think Harry being willing to pay for his security costs is neither here nor there, a bit of a misdirection. I would think his legal team know this. Really it boils down to whether his position and level of security risk merit RPO when he is in the UK.

If the answer is yes then there isn't a question of him paying for it because that's not how it works, he gets it or he doesn't.

So I presume the end game of this JR is to establish a need (or not) for RPO's on UK visits. I don't think there's a half measure that would suffice and not compromise the wider picture of royal security. I think it unlikely that UK operations will be willing to work with and share intel with private security.

As an ordinary citizen I have no idea what the risk level is to Harry and his family whenever he or they come here but it seems there's a difference of opinion from both camps and hopefully a JR will answer that question.

Maybe it will end up like Blair where he gets the protection but reimburses for the occasions when it's purely leisure.

@Roussette

course you do!

Lol
On H&M threads in the past we have had... and I will list them...

Meghan's Nanny
An Aunt who works at Windsor Castle
A sister who works at BP
Someone who knows someone who works for H&M
A friend of Doria

And more...

Funny that no one knows anyone who has a connection to Royals on the Andrew threads isn't it..

It is irrelevant to me if you believe me or not 😊

Your protectiveness knows no bounds

Is there such a word as protectiveness... just off to check

I still don't get your point. Why is it relevant to Andrews alleged sex abuse if Harry is spoilt?

It's not relevant, I said they have similar personalities, I don't know how I can make that any clearer. Other people bought in the comparison between their actions, which was not my point.

Well spell check didn't intervene so fingers crossed

It is irrelevant to me if you believe me or not

Good. Because I don't care either!

You asked me to go and research. I did.
I found nothing.
That's the end of the story really!

You cared enough to challenge me...

Not sure why you think that was a challenge....

Eyebrows

Yes I brought up Andrew because the timing of this story is designed imo to deflect somewhat from Andrew
The actual content of this story also relates to Andrew because there were articles written about his entitement to taxpayer funded security still when he stepped back in November 2019.

I appreciate that the link may be boring or irrelevant to your interest in the topic.

I raised the point because a lot of people have identified themselves on this thread as both republicans and in favour of the RF. I have just flagged to the non republicans my view that the RF have made a mistep with Andrew and this story in the Mail about Harry makes it worse.

The outcome of the judicial review doesn't matter. The RF can make up their own protocols but failure to apply them to Andrew is weird. Particularly since the media and many on this thread believe Harry and meghan to be terribly wicked

@dafey

You cared enough to challenge me...

Not sure why you think that was a challenge....

You accused me of lying. Does that not fit the definition of a challenge?