Harry to sue UK governmdnt

[Viviennemary]

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding.

@Roussette

Harry, however, has trashed his family on international TV.

Gosh! As bad as hanging out with despots, oligarchs and paedophiles?

I just need to get that clear in my head!

well said.

Calling out racism is not playing the victim.

Black people and those that love them should not be expected to just put their head down and tolerate racist harassment. Being wealthy doesn't protect you.

How much money would you need to be paid to have tabloids write a dozen articles a day trashing you or your spouse for years on end. BBC employees, bots and royal reporters mocking your new born and post partum wife on twitter for years?
Would you allow your children to grow up reading and seeing that?
£1m. What about £100m?

@LondonWolf

I don't expect you to be my Research Assistant haha

OK. I've looked. I put in a date range of 01/01/19 to 3 days ago (otherwise all I will get for pages is this recent statement)

I can't see anything except
He changed his security team in June 2020.
Articles about what they are supposedly paying.
Donald Trump saying he won't pay for it.
Canada not paying for it
And other such stuff.

Nowhere can I see what you said about Harry repeatedly bringing it up.

Similar both entitled, privileged with a lack of self awareness and like to play the victim.

I'd say you could apply that to most Royals

Have you not been paying attention, or just paying attention to the one side?

Paying attention to what?

It's sometimes good to be 'on the fence' it gives a better perspective.

When it comes to the RF I am on the fence & Im not particularly a fan of H&M. However even if they are spoilt, entitled, etc etc I don't think that's unusual in the Royals & I don't think it's on par with alleged sex crimes but you can disagree.

@Roussette

Great stuff. You can now decide based on that information and your own opinion just as I did. Don't worry I won't ask you to justify yourself to me

I also think publicly trashing the establishment is quite a Royal thing to do too. Harry probably just followed his parents example!

Harry had Met protection for PP's funeral and had private protection for the statue unveiling. He was allegedly chased by paparazzi after an event which is why he's thought to have initiated this action. There's a picture of him at the time in the passenger seat of a car filming something on his phone. (Saw this on Twitter)

I think the RF will be fine with the Sussexes not coming to the Jubilee. If they turned up on balconies etc then they would be centre of attention rather than HM.

I suspect that the Sussexes are a security risk because of their tendency to blab. The UK security services obviously don't want details about arrangements being made public and there's no telling that the Sussexes will keep operational stuff like this confidential. His request for information from the security services is very unreasonable imo.

Tony Blair has protection because he's ex-PM and after a lot of pressure compensates the tax payer for protection during trips for leisure so Harry isn't unreasonable to try and get a similar arrangement sorted. However his trips to the UK are infrequent and are there supposed to be protection waiting around just in case he visits? It doesn't fit in with the streamlining image that the RF like to project.

But this is not racism. It's simply the U.K. saying he cannot use the police as his personal protection, he is not a working royal anymore. He has the money to pay for private protection, which is what he should do. Not demand the Met police. And yes I know he would pay for them. We don't allow the rich to demand the exclusive use of the police either.

And you're arguing that an alleged sex offender who is also a spoilt brat is not as bad as a spoilt brat 😆

I agree that Andrew and Harry have similar personality traits, self centred, entitled etc but they were also born into the same position within the royal hierarchy, spare, 2nd in line continually dropping down and that must be difficult to deal with.
Ironically Harry (and William) displaced Andrew in the line of succession.
So I wonder if these personality traits are a byproduct of being the second born. Anne obviously 2nd born but maybe luckily for her, a girl!

OK. You admit then that your statement that "Harry is extremely preoccupied with having to pay for and provide his own security though. It comes up repeatedly"
is untrue.

Glad we've sorted that!

@Roussette

OK. You admit then that your statement that "Harry is extremely preoccupied with having to pay for and provide his own security though. It comes up repeatedly" is untrue.

Glad we've sorted that!

No in my opinion Harry is preoccupied with security costs to the point of being petulant and demanding about it and I have seen it come up repeatedly - more than once being a repeat...

Your post made me laugh. It's exactly how my children try to assert their "rightness" when they're arguing a point 😆

I suspect that the Sussexes are a security risk because of their tendency to blab. The UK security services obviously don't want details about arrangements being made public and there's no telling that the Sussexes will keep operational stuff like this confidential. His request for information from the security services is very unreasonable imo

Good grief. You are saying there that Harry and Meghan would tell anyone and everyone about private arrangements made for the RF. And are therefore a security risk.

Ye Gods

That's just nonsense.

wow people really comparing H with A.
bizarre

When it comes to the RF I am on the fence & Im not particularly a fan of H&M. However even if they are spoilt, entitled, etc etc I don't think that's unusual in the Royals & I don't think it's on par with alleged sex crimes but you can disagree.

I never said their actions were on a par, that would be ridiculous. What I did say is it's odd for people to see, acknowledge and comment on it in one person and be completely blind to it in the other. It's out there publicly for all to see, unless you of course you choose not to.

I suspect that the Sussexes are a security risk because of their tendency to blab. The UK security services obviously don't want details about arrangements being made public and there's no telling that the Sussexes will keep operational stuff like this confidential. His request for information from the security services is very unreasonable imo.

I agree. And not to mention the court confirmed fibbing that we are all aware of. Who knows how such information might be spun...

No in my opinion Harry is preoccupied with security costs to the point of being petulant and demanding about it and I have seen it come up repeatedly - more than once being a repeat

Where though? I've googled with the date parameters I told you about, and gone back 3 pages and found nothing about Harry saying anything about security. You're just making it up.

He can't help it if the gutter press bang on about it.

No in my opinion Harry is preoccupied with security costs to the point of being petulant and demanding about it and I have seen it come up repeatedly - more than once being a repeat...

But why do you think your opinion of his security is more important than his opinion? I've got no idea if it's a legitimate view or he's incredible anxious, I assume it's a mixture of both. However in his position I would want to keep my family safe so from an objective view I can't judge.

I think the headlines around this are very misleading.

However, I do think that the RF have stuffed up with both Andrew and Harry. Both should have their Dukedoms revoked, removed from the line of succession and a line firmly drawn that they are private family members only.

Only neither are remotely prepared to hand over their lifestyle of luxury and privilege. They can't have it both ways.

@Roussette

I suspect that the Sussexes are a security risk because of their tendency to blab. The UK security services obviously don't want details about arrangements being made public and there's no telling that the Sussexes will keep operational stuff like this confidential. His request for information from the security services is very unreasonable imo

Good grief. You are saying there that Harry and Meghan would tell anyone and everyone about private arrangements made for the RF. And are therefore a security risk.

Ye Gods

That's just nonsense.

Yes I think Harry would blab if there were threats against them when they visited the UK and not enough people were assigned to them or whatever. He makes his money by being a victim

Whatever the sussexes are and might do is irrelevant

The RF has treated the sex offender with more grace, patience and protection than Harry.

If you believe Harry's crime are worse than grooming, paedophilia and hanging with despots I assume you are fine with the optics.

If not this story is very embarrassing for the RF and speaks to their desperation with the tabloids that they pushed this story out there without thinking Harry would correct the obvious lie that he does not want to pay security costs

Either way I am pleased that it is clear why the sussesxes are not returning and clarified that Mail continues it fine journalistic standards

According to you cherry according to you.

@Roussette

According to you cherry according to you.

Yes and there's lots of evidence to support my point of view.

I never said their actions were on a par, that would be ridiculous. What I did say is it's odd for people to see, acknowledge and comment on it in one person and be completely blind to it in the other. It's out there publicly for all to see, unless you of course you choose not to.

I still don't get your point. Why is it relevant to Andrews alleged sex abuse if Harry is spoilt?

@dafey

I also think publicly trashing the establishment is quite a Royal thing to do too. Harry probably just followed his parents example!

Charles has trashed his family too, saying the Queen was not a good mum.