Harry to sue UK governmdnt

[Viviennemary]

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding.

@nottodaybatman

I care about Andrew because of the timing and the hypocrisy that I am paying for as a taxpayer.

Why not apply the sussex model to Andrew? Why did they keep funding and protecting a sex offender?

Why use RF sources to leak endlessly about snubbing and counter snubbing wrt the sussexes? Why keep this weird narrative going?

The rapidness of Harry's response clearly surprised the mail etc. They were hoping to bash him in the papers for as long as possible while quietly ignoring Andrew and the discrepancies with the Sussex model.

Yes this.

@thecatsthecats

He's right that his family have a right to be safe, of course.

What he's missing is that so does everyone else. There are estates in the UK where it's dangerous for the police to go. There are women who are at risk from their stalkers, their exes. There are kids in bad homes - other Arthur Labinjo-Hughes or Star Hobsons in the making.

There are not enough police for them. He says he is at enhanced risk. So was Star Hobson. So was Arthur. There was no private security team for them, inadequate intel or not. They couldn't go and stay with their father, who IS protected by that adequate intel.

Nope, he can fuck off. When the UK has even adequate policing for normal citizens, then privileged cry babies can pay for extras. Not before.

Why the weird language about cry babies? This is the kind of language that whips up hate against Harry and Meghan and means there needs protection. Or did you think encouraging hate has no consequences?

And I agree that policing in this country is failing many vulnerable people and should be much better.

The RF is huge! The police don’t protect random members or even the Monarch’s actual children when they’re off duty. He isn’t a working member of the RF as he stepped back from public life. And good for him! But he wants access to taxpayer funded specialist protection by paying for it on a one off basis here and there and it makes sense for a judge to make a decision on this. He can always not come to the UK, or he can stay with his family or he can not make any noise about it at all and keep his visit genuinely private. He doesn’t have to travel commercial - I know people bitch about it but he can do what he likes with his money.

'There are women who are at risk from their stalkers, their exes. There are kids in bad homes - other Arthur Labinjo-Hughes or Star Hobsons in the making.There are not enough police for them. He says he is at enhanced risk. So was Star Hobson. So was Arthur. There was no private security team for them, inadequate intel or nothing'

Indeed.

His suggestions to pay himself are stupid as one cannot pay for the police privately.

I agree with the poster who said iit will become the Harry and Meghan show. Unbearable. IMHO.

He disrespected his grandmother, he accused his family of racism, he slagged off his dad who apparently cut his 36 year old son without a penny. He gave a cringe worthy interview on US TV which was full of inconsistencies while his grand father was close to the end of his life.
He doesn't want to be a member of the Royal family yet uses his "Royal status" to get hired for top jobs.
Who thinks Netflix et al would have hired Mr Harry Winsdor?
Why should Mr Joe Public the UK Taxpayer protect him?

@Viviennemary

I agree with the poster who said iit will become the Harry and Meghan show. Unbearable. IMHO.

Why are you still trying to whip up hate? Posters like you are why Harry and Meghan are at risk. And only Andrew, Harry and Meghan have whip hated up against them. Andrew is well protected at our expense.

Apologies in advance. But as an outsider I have a feeling that he is trying to get official security so when he is back in the country with his wife, he can continue with the public duties (non- royal charities ) . They want to expend their business and it’s a business opportunity for them.

British public are divided on this and obviously Harry wants to continue with his business and are playing a long game.

@Georgeskitchen do you also criticise others such as Peter who use their Royal connections to make money?
Or even Andrew who made money while being a trade envoy?

@Tubelight

Apologies in advance. But as an outsider I have a feeling that he is trying to get official security so when he is back in the country with his wife, he can continue with the public duties (non- royal charities ) . They want to expend their business and it’s a business opportunity for them.

British public are divided on this and obviously Harry wants to continue with his business and are playing a long game.

It would be very easy to make a rule that when he is visiting Royal Family members or at a Royal Family event he is invited to, he gets protection. But not for holidays or other work.

@nottodaybatman

Well with any luck the HO will say no and then he and his family will never come back and the tabloids will not have to worry about the snubs and insults etc to the RF

And we can all focus on the our Royal sex offender. We can ask whether there will be a official investigation into Andrew using taxpayer funds to visit his special interest friendship circle.

We can focus on who is paying the legal fees for Andrew?

I cannot wait

Sure if the Royal Family never want to see them or their children again that decision can be made to ostracise them totally.

'do you also criticise others such as Peter who use their Royal connections to make money? Or even Andrew who made money while being a trade envoy?'

They didn't do so whilst slagging off the whole institution publicly and repeatedly though did they.

@JaniieJones I was talking about that specific criticism.
If people want Harry and his family never to come to the UK fine. I don't really care.
But don't then start a hate fest online about him not coming for the Jubilee or the Queen never meeting Lilibet.

@AllThePogs but i didn't think andrew was protected at our expense ??

Of course he should have UK security if he pays for it.

It's not 'privileged' to want his wife and tiny children to want to be safe when visiting this county.

There are enough loonies out there who want to invade their privacy and perhaps even harm them. Have people forgotten the horrific racist abuse when Archie was born? That's right... there are people out there who want to harm his toddler. That's how bad it is.

I'm not a Harry fan, but I don't think wanting to ensure his family's safety is 'entitled'.

We don't pay security for Andrew anymore. Only those with HRH and are working royals get security. Princess Anne, Prince Edward, Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie only get police protection if on a job for the Queen. Prince Harry is now a private citizen like Prince Andrew and private citizens don't get police protection. Harry is perfectly able to pay for his own security whilst in UK and there are different grades of security he could hire. Very recently retired police officers from crack security will be more expensive than not police trained. His choice to be one a private citizen. He can't have it both ways.

The Queen will pay Andrew’s legal fees. Where else would the money come from?

The Crown Estate is huge. Various members of the RF live on it. So they live quietly away from the public. Harry could stay with RF who do have armed protection. All this fuss about Harry - again!

I would have thought Charles and Camilla could visit him! Do they want to see him one wonders?

@caringcarer

We don't pay security for Andrew anymore. Only those with HRH and are working royals get security. Princess Anne, Prince Edward, Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie only get police protection if on a job for the Queen. Prince Harry is now a private citizen like Prince Andrew and private citizens don't get police protection. Harry is perfectly able to pay for his own security whilst in UK and there are different grades of security he could hire. Very recently retired police officers from crack security will be more expensive than not police trained. His choice to be one a private citizen. He can't have it both ways.

We do pay for Andrew.

@3mealsaday but if that process isn't set up how ? Then who else could use it

Very good points @thecats

@caringcarer
I agree with you. Lots posting won’t accept the position regarding Andrew.

One of the things I find so interesting is that Harry criticising the racism of the British media is interpreted as criticising the RF. Its really odd
Why to RF fans keep suggesting that the Tabloids represent the best of Britain and the RF. Its really strange

Also I find it funny that people think Harry needs to come to the UK to further his business interest when in he lives and works in the bigger and more significant English speaking US. The UK is home but what we think about him and his endeavours doesn't matter to the Americans.

@3mealsaday

Of course he should have UK security if he pays for it.

It's not 'privileged' to want his wife and tiny children to want to be safe when visiting this county.

There are enough loonies out there who want to invade their privacy and perhaps even harm them. Have people forgotten the horrific racist abuse when Archie was born? That's right... there are people out there who want to harm his toddler. That's how bad it is.

I'm not a Harry fan, but I don't think wanting to ensure his family's safety is 'entitled'.

Absolutely he can pay for a security team.

But that security team can’t carry guns.