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The royal family

Harry to sue UK governmdnt

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Viviennemary · 15/01/2022 22:37

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding. Shock

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PiglingBlonde · 16/01/2022 08:29

[quote AllThePogs]@dontsaythj but the judicial review is an old story. The request happened months ago. So why do you think it is only now on the front of all the Sunday newspapers?[/quote]
Because it has been reviewed in the papers and given permission to proceed so it will be heard in court.

dafey · 16/01/2022 08:30

It’s because he’s not a working Royal and has given up his position here in the RF. Nothing do with him being in the army or his profile. He’s not a working royal right now.

I think most are aware of this. The point he is making that he is still at risk, which may or may not be true. It's certainly not up to my to determine his risk level.

SallyLockheart · 16/01/2022 08:30

I think he’s trying to establish the principle that he is entitled to royal protection police when he is in the UK. So , whenever and for what reason he and his family are in the uk. He’s offering to pay now, he may not in the future.

So, eg, he comes to the UK to film the invictus games for Netflix. Should armed police protection be offered to him? the paying is really irrelevant- he’s trying to override the Met Office assessment of risk which is not his place to do.

Roussette · 16/01/2022 08:31

Yes... @nottodaybatman
Great post.
Of course this has been leaked to the DM to cover for Andrew.

Why now? Why over a year since this has been going on?

Funny that...

But it's manna to their haters, they can spin it in all sorts of ways to satisfy their hatred.

nottodaybatman · 16/01/2022 08:32

And I should add the RF requested Harry be here at the unveiling and didn't extend the Royal protection.
It's very underhand and dangerous

I imagine they intended to do the same for jubilee events. Invite the Sussex family and then whine to the tabloids that the sussexes are snubbing them when they need to cover up more Andrew news

It is very interesting they inadvertently forced the truth with Harry's statement confirming the issue. The RF must be really worried about the public mood about Andrew if they were willing to throw this story out there now.

Must be panic in Palace PR

dafey · 16/01/2022 08:32

Nor is Andrew
His is being funded by the Queen which means us and look at the damage he's done to the RF and will continue to do.

It beggars belief! Harry could quite easily be spoilt, ungrateful, materialistic etc so what? How can those things be more harmful & hurtful to the Royals & the Queen than what Andrew is facing.

TizerorFizz · 16/01/2022 08:33

@dafey
You might not think whether he works or not as whether he deserves Royal Protection or not but it’s the fact of the matter. As I have explained few Royals get 24/7 protection. Others get it when working. Harry doesn’t work at all so he doesn’t get it. It’s that’s simple. He wants to pay for it and that’s what the Judicial Review will address. In my view, he doesn’t qualify and he’s holding this up as a threat. No doubt Megan doesn’t want to visit. But he’s making life difficult for his family - as usual.

TizerorFizz · 16/01/2022 08:35

Andrew has no Royal Protection. Lots of misinformation on this thread.

SallyLockheart · 16/01/2022 08:35

Or whoever does risk assessment. There are steps he could take to reduce his risk but given he is establishing a high profile for himself with all his commercial activities and always branding himself as a royal prince and duke, he is clearly not seeking to manage those risks. So he is acting as a high profile celebrity/ businessman/philanthropist and can hire commercial security like everyone else in that sector..

Roussette · 16/01/2022 08:35

The Princess Royal and The Earl and Countess of Wessex get it when they are working. Andrew, Zara, Beatrice and Eugenie get nothing

Incorrect.

At the moment Andrew still has paid for security. He is facing calls to pay for his own. But he doesn't at the moment.

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Roussette · 16/01/2022 08:37

Andrew has no Royal Protection. Lots of misinformation on this thread

Yes he does. Well... as of 13th January he has. Has it changed since then? Damian Hinds security Minister confirmed as much.

All those times he was dodging legal papers by fleeing from one Palace to another, in his Range Rover was his PPOs and a car following.

dafey · 16/01/2022 08:38

Are you this upset about Clinton and Gates being friends with Epstein?

I don't understand this point? Are Clinton & Gates British royals facing a civil case re sex abuse?

Mamamia7962 · 16/01/2022 08:39

TizerorFizz - He may not be a working royal but he is still the Queen's grandson and a high profile member of the royal family so that makes him a target for terrorists.

Croissantly · 16/01/2022 08:39

Totally misleading heading to this thread OP.

Quelle surprise, on threads about H&M you get a mix of people who don't bother reading the article at all and just come on to say how much they dislike them, some who purposefully misconstrue what's being reported on to make them seem unreasonable, and a tiny percentage who actually discuss if having read the articles.

StormzyinaTCup · 16/01/2022 08:39

All those times he was dodging legal papers by fleeing from one Palace to another, in his Range Rover was his PPOs and a car following.

Maybe there was intel that he needed his security increased? I wouldn't be surprised.

SallyLockheart · 16/01/2022 08:40

Batman. I would have hoped that Harry WANTED to be at the unveiling of Diana’s statute - I wouldn’t have thought they would have had to request his presence. It was a joint William and Harry project - surely he was jointly organising it?

dafey · 16/01/2022 08:41

He's being a dickhead. Is he really that much of a threat he thinks he will be shot at? And even so, he just needs to find his own security.

Little brat.

Perhaps he is or perhaps he isn't, who can know but if he doesn't feel safe than that's his prerogative. Why would a stranger trigger you so much?

CovidCorvid · 16/01/2022 08:42

I do have some sympathy that he feels he needs security because of the family he was born into which isn’t his fault.

Is he more of a security risk than eugenie and Beatrice? One of them was “papped” walking down king’s rd pushing a baby in a pram the other day. Nobody with her at all. She seems to manage ok.

I do wonder if they’re doing this knowing they’re unlikely to win and then they have the perfect excuse to never return to the U.K (even if they don’t actually want to). plus they can endlessly moan about how they want to come back but are prevented from doing so because of security.

Roussette · 16/01/2022 08:42

Croissantly Indeed. It's such gleeful excitement to make up stuff and quote DFail headlines with bad spelling!

I'm linking the statement as it seems to me that some posters haven't even read it and are taking the DFail as gospel.

Harry to sue UK governmdnt
dafey · 16/01/2022 08:43

Andrew has no Royal Protection. Lots of misinformation on this thread.

@TizerorFizz why do you say that?

nottodaybatman · 16/01/2022 08:43

The Mail and RF must be so annoyed Harry released the statement so quickly. Anither day or and the twitter trends and talk shows would be at full throttle talking about the mail version of events.

Also now we know how two faced the RF are. The unveiling was an official event with William planned well in advance and there was no Cooperation or Intel from police or sharing of royal protection as he tried to fly home. The RF look awful here and have clearly set the precedent that even with official events they will not share security, and the home office will not let him pay. The question is why?
Why have official events requiring Harry and refuse the security even when paid for?

Roussette · 16/01/2022 08:43

Is he more of a security risk than eugenie and Beatrice?

Neo Nazis have targeted them because of Meghan.

WinnieTheW0rm · 16/01/2022 08:43

I think is is wrong for The Duke of York to have police protection of the kind assigned to working royals

I can see why there might have been nothing to announce immediately following his effective sacking (may have taken them by surprise) but I hope that it will be properly reviewed as there is currently no prospect of a return to public duties.

I don't think police should be for hire to anyone, though I do think that when events, usually large event like the footie, require significant and regular policing then there should be a way to share some of the costs.

But individuals should not be able to hire police officers for their own personal protection.

megletthesecond · 16/01/2022 08:44

The whole thing is weird.
Of course he needs UK security. Surely a US team wouldn't be as effective.