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The royal family

Harry to sue UK governmdnt

999 replies

Viviennemary · 15/01/2022 22:37

This is according to the DM. Over the withdrawal of his security funding. Shock

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itsgettingweird · 16/01/2022 08:02

@amusedtodeath1

Do we rent out police protection? I've never heard of a private citizen paying for police protection before. Don't they usually just hire a private firm??
Yea they do.

And he has his us team.

From my understanding it's because they don't have jurisdiction to access the intel needed to protect him fully in the U.K.

TizerorFizz · 16/01/2022 08:03

I’ll correct that: he wants to have access to the Royal Protection but pay the cost. His agreement when he left was that as a non working Rotal, he didn’t get it.

JurgensCakeBabyJesus · 16/01/2022 08:05

There's no mechanism for the police to be paid privately, he needs to pay privately for security. My advice would be to go and stay with his brother, who has police protection.....

dafey · 16/01/2022 08:07

Well if I was him I would want protection so I can't criticise him for that.

He doesn't want "us" to pay, which is fair enough.

It could of course, have nothing to do with the fact that we might be hard working women, bringing up children in Covid times, in suburbs, many of us living in social housing, on limited incomes that don't have a whole lot of sympathy for privileged peacocks who live in a world we can only dream of, with immense wealth, fame and privilege?

But surely this applies to all the Royals?

StartupRepair · 16/01/2022 08:07

Seems to still be massive coverage of Andrew. Harry's statement seems to say that there was an incident when he came back for the Diana statue which made him feel unsafe.

dafey · 16/01/2022 08:09

From my understanding it's because they don't have jurisdiction to access the intel needed to protect him fully in the U.K.

This is what I read so I'm confused why people are saying things like he wants us to pay.

Lolamento · 16/01/2022 08:09

@amusedtodeath1

Racism?? There's no racism, they got married with a lot of good will globally, their behaviour has changed that nothing else.
This
TizerorFizz · 16/01/2022 08:13

He alleges there were photographers following him. I don’t see why his protection couldn’t deal with that. What is not fair is that he no longer Carrie’s out work for the Riyal Family but wants the same protection as a working Riyal. He’s not working and he’s on a private visit. The government will no doubt stand their ground. As usual with Harry, it’s all about what he wants. The Judicial Review will be interesting and a test of the legal position of Harry and his status in this country snd the Royal Family.

Closebrackets · 16/01/2022 08:14

@JurgensCakeBabyJesus

There's no mechanism for the police to be paid privately, he needs to pay privately for security. My advice would be to go and stay with his brother, who has police protection.....
Yes there is, there are plenty of FOI responses and details of agreements online where police have been paid by private enterprises to provide personnel to events etc.
mpsw · 16/01/2022 08:15

Elite private security services liaise with the UK police service - that’ll be business as usual otherwise credible threats may be missed

And his former private secretary here will know all the key people in that world, so the Sussexes would have no difficulty in securing an elite team.

And yes of course information/intelligence about credible threats is passed on to the subject.

What he won't be getting is people carrying firearms around him.

If he feels his family cannot be safe without that, then it is better that he does as he says and stays away.

TizerorFizz · 16/01/2022 08:18

@dafey

He wants to pay for Royal Protection. They are the police with access to security intelligence. They are only available to the Queen, Charles and Camilla, William and Kate on a 24/7 basis. The Princess Royal and The Earl and Countess of Wessex get it when they are working. Andrew, Zara, Beatrice and Eugenie get nothing. They don’t work. Harry doesn’t work so he gets no Royal Protection.

Wolfiefan · 16/01/2022 08:19

@AutomaticMoon can’t read either story as I don’t subscribe. But they are about companies and at least one is about crime. Not protection.

KonTikki · 16/01/2022 08:21

It's all about Armed Protection.
The police have supplied officers in the past paid for on a private basis, but not armed officers.
Any private security team on British soil will not be armed in public.
He wants to break this protocol by hiring armed police officers in a private capacity.
Interesting to see what happens.

BringBackThinEyebrows · 16/01/2022 08:22

@dontsaythj

Exactly, Harry is proven racist. His taxpayer-funded police security ended when he stepped down as a senior royal in early 2020. To accuse posters of being racist for pointing out the police can't be hired or calling racist Harry an idiot is just an attempt to shut down any discussion about him.

Mamamia7962 · 16/01/2022 08:22

Harry is a high profile target for terrorists having served in Afghanistan and being the Queen's grandson. He needs protection and if he's willing to pay for it I can't see the problem.

TizerorFizz · 16/01/2022 08:22

@Closebrackets
The Royal Protection service/officers are not available for hire at private events. That’s not an accurate portrayal of what they do. They provide 24/7 protection for senior members of the Royal family. They don’t get hired out to football grounds and arenas.

dafey · 16/01/2022 08:24

@TizerorFizz I don't believe the fact he works or not makes him less of a target though. Like I said in his position, I would be anxious for my children without protection.

LondonWolf · 16/01/2022 08:24

Always something to whine about with him 🙄

nottodaybatman · 16/01/2022 08:25

@JurgensCakeBabyJesus

Staying with his brother would make sense but if you read through the statement there was the security issue when Harry went to the unveiling but not Philips funeral. So clearly RF extended protection for one event but not the other. Again interesting optics and choices by the RF.

But why should the RF pay for security everytime harry wants to see his maternal aunts or mum's grave.

Why would the RF not want Harry to pay his way, why would they refuse and then leak this story to mail?

Again on timing the tabloids have known since September about the Sussex security issue but have run regular "sourced" to rile people stating that the sussexes were definitely coming back to baptise lili or to see the Queen or imaginary state banquets. The tabloids knew it was a pack of lies and knew they couldn't be here safely. Its almost as if sussex hate sells and that is more important than logic. And again I expect nothing less from the mail but interesting to watch the RF work so seamlessly to support the mails narrative by constantly leaking to them particularly at useful times to the RF

Like I said I am not trying to convince people to give up their hatred of the sussexes. If they enjoy it, go for it
But I cannot unsee how RF uses their royal sources to exclaim how much Harry should come to Xmas and the unveiling etc when they know about the security issue.... and then this latest leak / story to the mail about old news. Funny how all these RF sources keep chatting to the tabloids about the irrelevant ones particularly when they need a distraction

TizerorFizz · 16/01/2022 08:25

@Mamamia7962
It’s because he’s not a working Royal and has given up his position here in the RF. Nothing do with him being in the army or his profile. He’s not a working royal right now.

PiglingBlonde · 16/01/2022 08:26

@nottodaybatman

This story was leaked to cover up for a sex offender by the RF. The timing is not accidental The Mail knew the details were factually wrong and didn't check with Harry. They published it anyway.

All this to protect Andrew, who still has tax payer funding and he has not worked for the firm for over 2 years. This is our RF. This is what and who they prioritise and this how stupid and gullible they think the public are

It has been widely reported because it is a judicial review brought by Harry against the Home Office. It was filed in September and it appears that it now has permission to proceed. It is nothing to do with RF.
dafey · 16/01/2022 08:27

Its almost as if sussex hate sells and that is more important than logic.

This, I don't have any particular feelings about any of the Royals (except Andrew) & think the concept is ridiculous. I'm still capable of seeing things logically & objectively though.

TizerorFizz · 16/01/2022 08:27

@nottodaybatman
Harry is asking for a Judicial Review. That’s not private! All the newspapers have the story.

Lolamento · 16/01/2022 08:29

@nottodaybatman

Frankly if you enjoy hating all things sussex crack on. However know that this little story was deliberately put out there to protect a sex offender.

The comms and PR people employed by the RF sat down and agreed this strategy. They coordinated with the Mail and leaked this information to give cover for Andrew who likes hanging out with groomers and pedophiles when not living in his highly subsidised housing.

And best of all, we are definitely paying for this PR strategy as tax payers, along with Andrew's legal defence etc.

I find the grubbiness of this whole spiel by the RF really insulting to our collective intelligence

Calm down. Are you this upset about Clinton and Gates being friends with Epstein? PA is going into a civil court case and is innocent until found guilty. However, the damaged either way is already there. Plus an article about any royals even Harry affects all of of them. Tbh the RF probably prefers that H & M would not feature in the press.
Roussette · 16/01/2022 08:29

Totally misleading heading to this thread OP.

I've only come on here to read the nonsense being peddled about this. Has anyone properly read his statements?

Well done him. The DFail make up a story and he immediately comes out with a statement debunking it.

I would want to protect my family too. Wouldn't you?

And he will pay for it.

Le's stop the 'but he isn't a working Royal'.
Nor is Andrew
His is being funded by the Queen which means us and look at the damage he's done to the RF and will continue to do.