Harry and Meghan moving house allegedly

[Viviennemary]

Since this is being reported in thd DM and Daily Express perhaps it is on the cards. Seems quite soon to be moving though I don't blame them. Its quite a grotty and unappealing house and the gardens. All those bushes. Must cost a fortune to maintain. And not very child friendly either.

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@Viviennemary

Since this is being reported in thd DM and Daily Express perhaps it is on the cards. Seems quite soon to be moving though I don't blame them. Its quite a grotty and unappealing house and the gardens. All those bushes. Must cost a fortune to maintain. And not very child friendly either.

‘Grotty and unappealing’

Oh do behave .
I might use that descriptor for my DH’s underpants collection, but not for a multi million dollar house.

So I take it you wouldn’t swap it for your home?

Maybe now they have two little ones they feel a different property would suit them better.
But really I think it's a made up story to divert everyone from the RF stories that really matter at the moment.

@Sh05

Maybe now they have two little ones they feel a different property would suit them better. But really I think it's a made up story to divert everyone from the RF stories that really matter at the moment.

Yep. I think the public may have concerns about payments and other issues for certain RF members.

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I dont think any costs have been paid and as the DOM appealed the case no damages were forthcoming at the original win...they may however, have started to pay the legal fees already. Overall, this is a massive loss for the DOS , she admitted to lying in court and the damages that have been awarded reflect the lack of privacy that was really impinged. i see they raised only £50k in their charity for 2020 also, with only 5% having to go to actual charity this should help her pay some of their legal fees for this embarrassment of a case.

The DM will be paying the legal costs. They will also pay undisclosed amount in damages. MM's lawyer also asked for the profits that the fail made from the story. There is no loss for DOS.

The 50K thing another distraction non story. A thread was zapped by MNHQ when it was pointed out that other royals have charities closed down and brought in even less money.

There is also no proof that they are bringing 5% to Archewell, which does not take funds from Joe public. It was started in Oct2020, fully operational from April 2021. Has made donations, there is no need for them to have more money.

I just remember reading when they bought it that it had 16 bathrooms, and the idea made me exhausted, even if I never had to clean any of them. There's something weirdly depressing about that many.

I have always wondered why a big thing was made about this house. I am sure you would be more than exhausted and depressed reading about a 120 room house, surely.

www.hellomagazine.com/homes/gallery/20210714117465/sophie-wessex-prince-edward-home-bagshot-park-photos/1/

I have a vague memory (can't substantiate it more than that ) that apparently large parts of Bagshot are closed off as it's so big that it would be very expensive to maintain and heat otherwise, so the Wessexes only actually use and live in a particular section of it. The perils of being filthy rich, eh? Perhaps the Sussexes have found the same to be true for their place. There must be bedrooms and bathrooms that simply never get used for months at a time or at all. I guess heating them is less of an issue in California but maybe air con is costly..

I always thought the exterior of the property looked pretty good - nice grounds and trees, a pool, and a playground which seemed like a really good idea if you want your kids to be able to play and have others over to play outdoors without going to public parks and facilities.

I looked earlier and found coverage of the £450K as an interim payment towards legal costs that the judge had ordered earlier in the year. So I assume that the Mail have already paid that out, but also that as an interim payment it will be counted as part of, and therefore deducted from, the overall amount of Meghan's legal costs that they are ordered to pay. So the Mail will have to pay, let's say £1.5million going by the Guardian estimate, but minus the 450K they've already paid. Again, problems of people / organisations with deep pockets!

On the 'it's a distraction!' point, it's amazing that MN and the internet generally have the facility for more than one thing to be discussed. There are multiple threads active on Andrew at the moment as well as loads of news coverage, so I can't say this issue seems very effective as a distraction, if that was the aim!

Finally, the 'only stories where Archwell goes on the record in commenting are from us' seems a bit like locking the stable door after the horse has bolted, given the extent now known from the court case about information passed to third parties but then unfortunately forgotten about by Meghan. Glad they're turning over a new leaf. Omid Scobie may have to update his Linked In and get job hunting though as he has occupied himself for ages with giving their viewpoint while not being an on the record spokesperson. He must feel a bit miffed.

Remember when Harry won a legal case, also against the Mail online last year and his legal expenses to be repaid were knocked down from 35k to about 2.5k on the basis that the claim was extortionate. Judges presumably have considerable discretion in the awarding of costs - do we have any legal experts on here who know how these type of cases pan out?

@rubicscubicle

The DM will be paying the legal costs. They will also pay undisclosed amount in damages. MM's lawyer also asked for the profits that the fail made from the story. There is no loss for DOS.

The 50K thing another distraction non story. A thread was zapped by MNHQ when it was pointed out that other royals have charities closed down and brought in even less money.

There is also no proof that they are bringing 5% to Archewell, which does not take funds from Joe public. It was started in Oct2020, fully operational from April 2021. Has made donations, there is no need for them to have more money.

The DM have been told to partially pay for costs no exact determination. how generous of MM to pay her £1 profit to charity, nearly as generous as paying 5% of the profits of her Delaware registered charity to actual charities. Again this is fact based on why companies/charities are registered in Delaware. So not a non story it is based on their choice of registration and comes from financial accounts which mare a fact of public record. Tell me what other charities have been closed down MNHQ - are you talking about Susssex Royal by any chance? Strikes me you have been drinking Meghans kool aid

I have a vague memory (can't substantiate it more than that grin) that apparently large parts of Bagshot are closed off as it's so big that it would be very expensive to maintain and heat otherwise, so the Wessexes only actually use and live in a particular section of it. The perils of being filthy rich, eh? Perhaps the Sussexes have found the same to be true for their place. There must be bedrooms and bathrooms that simply never get used for months at a time or at all. I guess heating them is less of an issue in California but maybe air con is costly..

There is a probability that the Sussexes also closed off some parts of the house? And did not use the air con in them just as the Wessex do not use heating at their pile? Supposedly. I never read such a story.

Stories get used as a distraction all the time. We have witnessed this in particular with MM. Give people something else to froth over and take their attention away by promoting a certain story and making it the main headline.
Even now, everyone is reporting on the £1, yet all seem rather vague on how much the damages will be. They all seem to know this amount, but not a clue as to what other amounts have to be paid, just a vague 'substantial' amount.

Omid Scobie spoke to Jason Knauf. He himself cannot be miffed since from the beginning he has denied actually talking to Meghan or being their mouthpiece. He said he took his stories from several sources. It was the tabloids and certain people who accused him of talking for the Sussex couple. Infact, some of the information he has on his book is not accurate. He never even corrected the Meghan made Kate cry story.

The guardian covered the amount, but I cannot find it now. Definitely the fail has to cover atleast 90% of her legal fees.
I did find this
www.itv.com/news/2021-03-02/meghan-asks-high-court-to-order-mail-on-sunday-to-hand-over-letter-to-her-father

5% of profits is what they are required to pay, no one knows if they are doing that or not. So it is a non-story, till someone can prove that they are and that they are breaking any laws.
This is just an assumption from trolls, not a story. So far no one has even logged a complain - I doubt anyone will, since the public does not pay a penny towards Archewell.

Tell me what other charities have been closed down MNHQ - are you talking about Susssex Royal by any chance? Strikes me you have been drinking Meghans kool aid

MNHQ (mums net head quarters) closed down a thread, not a charity on this subject. Strikes me you have been drinking something else, more than 'cool aid'.

So that 90% refers to the first appeal. I wonder if her perjury will have any impact on the awarding of costs given that she did not come with “clean hands” to the court case as demonstrated in the court appeal later on the year

Considering the judge did not charge her with 'perjury', as they did with Gelaine Maxwell for example. This is not an official judgement on her, so it is highly unlikely that such a thing would even be considered or judged up. Clearly the court realised it's irrelevance it does not even get a mention.

I presumed that the 90% was based on the case as a whole.

Also, MM lawyers have asked to see the profits from the coverage of this letter and case from MoS.

Currently it's all reported as a 'confidential' sum to be awarded to MM.

@perwermermaid, how can you say 'there is no loss for DoS' when she was forced to admit in court that she is a liar?

She hardly said "I am a liar" did she?

That's a bit of a stretch. It was hardly a major thing, as it didn't affect the case. She rightly won it.

I'm so glad she won and I hope the MoS have to pay substantial damages. Well done her for pushing forward with the case.

@caringcarer it was me who said, there is no loss for the DoS. The other poster said, there is major loss for her.

As I had said, and @Roussette pointed out, the 'technical' admission was irrelevant to the case and judged as such. She never spoke to Scobie, Jason Knauf did, and was the one actually testifying against her, and it was judged that he inadvertently helped her case instead.

She had to admit to the judge that she ''forgot'' that she gave the list of subjects to her PA to give to Finding Freedom biographers.

So embarrassing.

Embarrassing to you maybe?
It didn't affect the case which says it all.

It would be embarrassing to anyone with a shred of remorse. I'd have to go into hiding

Well, most people would be embarrassed to have to admit so publicly that they forgot to tell the truth. But yes, Meghan didnt seem to be embarrassed!

@Roussette

Embarrassing to you maybe? It didn't affect the case which says it all.

This ^

Looks like the gleeful 'she is only getting £1 to donate to her charities' glee from the fail will be shortly lived, because so many journalists (including from CNN and BBC) are setting the story straight that there is an undisclosed amount that MM will get.
It was her who suggested the £1 figure, I wonder if that meant it would be easier for her to get the profit share from this story.

YourTruthorMine

Oh, don't be daft. Why should she go into hiding?! She won the case FFS!
It was only a miniscule part of the case, she won!
Well done her, she gave AssocPress a bloody nose, well deserved

Yes, she won, we know. But she had to tell the judge that she forgot to tell the truth. That's not a comfortable victory. That's really embarrassing.
Not to everybody I guess. Depends what your values are. I'd have been mortified in her shoes, but I would never have thought I could get away with denying day was night.