BBC The Princes and the Press

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Did anyone watch this last night? About William and Harry and their different approaches to the press. Last night was part 1 of 2.

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Stop reading the Daily Mail

You're such a wit lol

Serenster a text 'in quite strong terms'. Shock horror!

I'm laughing at the implication it must have been worse than the disgusting texts sent between Johnny Depp and Paul Bettany or we'd have been told the contents. Honestly.

Strong enough for the judge to decide he woulodn’t read it out out, Roussette. I know you wouldn’t necessarily know this, but the court is the world of ironic understatement and self deprecation. It must have been very strong indeed for them not to read it.

(Also I noted you posted upthread the quote in the judgement about Meghan’s forgetting about tasking Jason Knauf to speak to the Finding Freedom’s authors - “at best, an unfortunate lapse of memory on her part”. That is judicial shade there, absolutely. If they had wanted to be neutral about it they would have simply said they accepted her account that it had been forgotten).

@Aspiringmatriarch

I'm laughing at the implication it must have been worse than the disgusting texts sent between Johnny Depp and Paul Bettany or we'd have been told the contents. Honestly.

It’s an example of the ridiculous deference shown to both Harry and Meghan throughout this whole process, to be honest. Johnny Depp (and other litigants) got no such consideration. The text must have been quite strongly worded to have not been read aloud, that much is crystal clear.

Yes, that's fair enough. I imagine it had something to do with Harry's royal status and I don't agree it should be kept private on that basis. But your 'make of that what you will' did rather imply that the contents of that text must have exceeded even Depp and Bettany's grossness!

I know you wouldn’t necessarily know this, but the court is the world of ironic understatement and self deprecation. It must have been very strong indeed for them not to read it

With all due respect (and I mean that)... you sound patronising. I know you are an expert on all matters legal. Along with other all matters, but seriously...
You don't really really know.

Now you’re being condescending! I do know, but you don’t believe me is where we end up, I think.

I don't mean to be condescending. We disagree on much. But I didn't mean that. Allow me to be respectful in querying what you say. However, you talk like you know everything, but you don't.

Unless you are in the US practising in the legal field.

Ooops. UK, not US! (I've been posting on Epstein thread )

I’m not going to post my CV Roussette but yes, I am in the UK practicing in the legal field, and have done for many many years

I can’t believe people really care about the royals still. I think they are on borrowed time really given Andrew’s behaviour and all the comments made over the years. They are stuck firmly in the past and I can’t see it lasting for many more generations in its current format or structure. I don’t think younger generations will allow the extravagant wealth inequality that they symbolise.

Haven’t seen the programme but when will people stop buying papers that have royal ‘news’ on the front cover?! I just don’t get what’s so newsworthy about them, I couldn’t give a monkeys. I can’t help but feel it’s the daily mail generations who buy this stuff. My grandad is one of them. No one else in my entire family has any interest. The media pressure should ease on them when people stop paying for this ‘news’. Why is everyone so interested in Meghan Markle?? I don’t get it. I wouldn’t say bat an eyelid if I saw her in Tescos. xo

@Serenster

I’m not going to post my CV Roussette but yes, I am in the UK practicing in the legal field, and have done for many many years

Boom.

Oh well done lol. Everything you say is correct then. If you can find anything to do with the awful text that Harry sent, I'd be interested!

'Quite strong terms' doesn't really cut it for me but hey ho...

I'm not going to dig myself a bigger hole here, because you know it all

Bring back As I said before.... you're just a wit! Point scored! Taken in the manner it's meant I think

Clearly Thomas Markle is not an easy man to deal with, but the power difference between him and Harry is massive and he was left feeling excluded. Meghan was happy to make a Tig post about what a great dad he was. As with so much of Meghan's communication, it seems she always has an eye on her image and the truth can be a bit slippery.
It is ridiculous that with all their resources Harry did not meet Thomas.

@StartupRepair why do you want to always think the worst?
I didn't see the post and what is a Tig post anyway?

@Roussette

Bring back As I said before.... you're just a wit! Point scored! Taken in the manner it's meant I think

Thanks. Hope you're having a lovely evening

BringBack I am thank youuuuu

And if Thomas did not want to meet, what was Harry supposed to do, drag him out to see him?

Doria had no problem with meeting .

I don't always think the worst. Tig was Meghan's blog. She had lots of followers and used it to build her brand. She put a gushing tribute to her father on father's Day.

@StartupRepair

Clearly Thomas Markle is not an easy man to deal with, but the power difference between him and Harry is massive and he was left feeling excluded. Meghan was happy to make a Tig post about what a great dad he was. As with so much of Meghan's communication, it seems she always has an eye on her image and the truth can be a bit slippery. It is ridiculous that with all their resources Harry did not meet Thomas.

Yes, I haven't really looked in Thomas Markle but the abuse allegations caught my attention. He comes across as ill-advised and desperate. I haven't heard him say anything negative about Meghan (could be wrong). Him stating that she did have a privileged upbringing is not abusive. Certainly all the evidence shows he was a doting dad during her childhood while raising Meghan as a single parent.

@StartupRepair do you mean when she was an actress?

Father's Day... when?

"In May 2018, a few days before the wedding, Markle became a subject of controversy after it was revealed that he had staged photographs for a paparazzi photographer in return for money.[27] His elder daughter, Samantha, later claimed that it was her idea, and that her father's motivation was not financial but "to show the world that [he's] getting in shape and doing great healthy things."[28] Markle admitted that he initially had lied to Harry about the staged photos and later regretted his decision.[29][30][31] In June 2018, he appeared on Good Morning Britain in which he discussed his personal relationship with Meghan and his son-in-law.[32][33][34] In another interview with The Mail on Sunday in July 2018, Markle said that his daughter "[would] be nothing without me. I made her the Duchess she is today."[35] His continual paid interviews with the press reportedly damaged his relationship with his daughter, with whom he indicated he had not been in contact since the royal wedding.[36][37]

In February 2019, he published excerpts of a letter sent to him by his daughter shortly after her wedding in direct response to a People article involving five of Meghan's friends referencing the letter and negatively commenting on his character,[38] in which she stated that he had broken her heart "into a million pieces" with his actions. Markle described the letter as a "a dagger to the heart" rather than an "olive branch".[39][40]

In January 2020, it was revealed that The Mail on Sunday could possibly use evidence provided by Markle against his own daughter in an ongoing legal battle between the paper and the Duchess. The Daily Mail also named him as a potential witness who could testify against Meghan in court.[41] In the same month, he said in an interview that Meghan is "tossing away every young girl's dream of becoming a princess, for money", and that she and Harry are "destroying and cheapening" the royal institution, and that they are "lost souls".[42] He also stated that he does not expect to see Meghan ever again but still hopes for reconciliation one day.[43]"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Markle