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Meghan Markle ANL court appeal. Thread 2.

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catinboots123 · 13/11/2021 21:15

For those that are interested - I know I am.

Does anyone know when the appeal judgement will be made.

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MummyJ12 · 16/11/2021 12:23

Last one!

Meghan Markle ANL court appeal. Thread 2.
Seeingadistance · 16/11/2021 12:25

www.nytimes.com/2021/11/13/world/europe/meghan-markle-uk-tabloids.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqohlSVUa

Maybe this link will work as shareable.

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Serenster · 16/11/2021 12:26

This is what I don't understand. If I were attending that event, I would be pretty pissed off that all the attention was on Harry and Meghan and their entourage

I find it difficult to imagine too many of them would really feel that strongly about it - their event would not have got any of the global press coverage it received if it had been run without Meghan and Harry, and that must have made attendees feel a bit of a buzz around it. Equally, a. US military audience could be predicted to have a proportion of people in the audience who have little time for the ceremony attending British royals, and that certainly could have been taken into account in the planning.

I do think this is one of those events that falls into that ill-defined category of needing to be thoughtfully dressed for by the woman attending. We know it’s a given that Meghan’s attendance and appearance will get far more attention than Harry’s, just as a matter of course. And if you look at the actual official flier to the event, and the initial press coverage (below), it is clear that Prince Harry was the special guest, not the Sussexes together. Meghan was not mentioned at all in the initial announcements.

In those circumstances Meghan could well have considered it appropriate to dress down a bit, to ensure her husband was also a focus. Diana famously used to rewear dresses when she went to friends’ wedding, to make her outfit less likely to be focussed on in the coverage. Kate recently re-wore an 11 year old gown when accompanying William to the Earthshot prize giving. Notably, however, Meghan chose to wear a huge, bright red, low cut dress. (And don’t @ me to say other royals wouldn’t get criticised for this - Diana got criticism for debuting an updo at the State Opening of Parliament one year because that was the photo all the press put on their front page the next day, ignoring the Queen delivering the speech!).

support.intrepidmuseum.org/campaign/salute-to-freedom-gala-2021/c337622

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Peaseblossum22 · 16/11/2021 12:43

@Roussette

I just thought maybe it would on occasion be wise to reflect on whether their appearance at certain events is inappropriate as it will inevitably take the spotlight away from the event in hand

So, they should never go out then or Harry as a veteran of 10 years himself and asked to a Veteran event should not go even though he was asked to present medals to other Veterans and they talked warmly about Invictus which he was instrumental in setting up.
I have no idea what is 'inappropriate'... I would find him turning down this special invitation inappropriate.

Of course they can go out.But for example the Duchess of a Cambridge is well known for not attending friends weddings (or if the cameras were likely to be there only going quietly to the reception later) and also rarely wearing a new outfit to high profile weddings as she is aware that otherwise the attention would be on her and not the bride.

They are very aware that they are invited to attend events not to highlight themselves but to highlight the cause/charity/people who invited them. When I have been involved in events attended by the Royals they are very insistent that any photos/press must include the people who the charity benefits and their story and not what the royal visitor was wearing!

StormzyinaTCup · 16/11/2021 12:46

It’s all a bit messy really.

Haven’t read the articles yet but certainly will do - a 👍🏻 to posters that posted/linked.

It sounds like a case of not reading the room again. I think the US PR machine has to take some responsibility for this. I have no idea what their client’s instruction is but it does need a bit of refining! (obviously that’s assuming of course the couple are listening and open to taking advice).

BananaPB · 16/11/2021 12:51

Of course they can go out.But for example the Duchess of a Cambridge is well known for not attending friends weddings (or if the cameras were likely to be there only going quietly to the reception later) and also rarely wearing a new outfit to high profile weddings as she is aware that otherwise the attention would be on her and not the bride

It's pretty amazing that we've not seen a pic of what Catherine and the children wore to her brother's wedding. I am pleased that the bride and groom weren't upstaged and none of the guests leaked a pic or any stories.

HeddaGarbled · 16/11/2021 13:00

Thanks @MummyJ12 - that’s a balanced article, which pretty much sums it all up, IMO.

Roussette · 16/11/2021 13:10

smilesy

Totally disagree. If there was a news report saying Harry turned down an invitation to present medals to Veterans, are you saying there would be no criticism on MN? That's funny.

I wonder if he was specifically asked or they asked if they could attend. I suspect the latter
Everywhere I've read, even our press, as well as US, Harry was asked as a special guest. But maybe you know different? And you know they requested to attend and Harry asked if he could present medals? I can only repeat what I've read.

smilesy · 16/11/2021 13:14

The quote you have linked to above was not from me Rousette.

Roussette · 16/11/2021 13:17

I did mean you smilesy. Your post at 12.09 saying 'not necessarily' when I say there would be huge criticism if he turned it down.

Roussette · 16/11/2021 13:17

Ahhh apologies. The quote in my post is not you, I get that. I was just avoiding doing lots of posts and putting two points in one post.

smilesy · 16/11/2021 13:21

No worries Roussette

Roussette · 16/11/2021 13:22
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SickAndTiredAgain · 16/11/2021 13:24

When I have been involved in events attended by the Royals they are very insistent that any photos/press must include the people who the charity benefits and their story and not what the royal visitor was wearing!

What Kate wears is always reported though. Even if she is aiming for low-key.

RubyTuesday70 · 16/11/2021 13:26

According to a poster on Twitter, they were asked to leave the Vets Gala. It didn't go down well taking their Netflix crew in........and the applause when they took their seats was lukewarm at best.

BananaPB · 16/11/2021 13:29

@SickAndTiredAgain

When I have been involved in events attended by the Royals they are very insistent that any photos/press must include the people who the charity benefits and their story and not what the royal visitor was wearing!

What Kate wears is always reported though. Even if she is aiming for low-key.

I have noticed that there's always a pic of her standing or walking alone (so we can see the whole outfit) and a pic with the charity representatives.
SickAndTiredAgain · 16/11/2021 13:46

@RubyTuesday70

According to a poster on Twitter, they were asked to leave the Vets Gala. It didn't go down well taking their Netflix crew in........and the applause when they took their seats was lukewarm at best.
Well it must be true then!

On this thread and the last one I think it’s probably clear I’m far from a fan of theirs, but using claims from a random post on Twitter to criticise them is ridiculous. Besides, I’m sure someone else can find a tweet from another random account saying they went down a storm! Unless you’re saying the person on Twitter was there, or has footage of them being asked to leave?

LondonWolf · 16/11/2021 13:48

Are they just rent a pseudo royal by default?

I think they’re far along that path, yes.

The Netflix crew filmed their NY trip too. There were pics of Harry with a mic in his pocket and lots of speculation that M's baggy coats were to hide hers. I think people are assuming a documentary of their works this year

Documentary or “Reality TV”? I think the line is perilously blurred tbh.

BananaPB · 16/11/2021 13:57

@SickAndTiredAgain There is video of Harry walking onto stage to present an award. There doesn't seem to be much applause but it's hard to tell how much applause the other presenters received so that a comparison can be made.

BananaPB · 16/11/2021 14:00

Documentary or “Reality TV”? I think the line is perilously blurred tbh.

Nobody knows yet as they haven't announced details. The cameras following them around NY and the mic in Harrys pocket was the first hint at this kind of project.

PickupaPenguin8 · 16/11/2021 14:01

Rent a Royal.

Viviennemary · 16/11/2021 14:16

Is this going to go on for evermore. H & M did this that or the other. Then loads of criticism and some folk defending them. I don't just mean on MN but in general. Take former President Obama and his wife for instance they must be involved in a lot of things for charity and so on. But you never hear about them taking over events and making it more about them.

StormzyinaTCup · 16/11/2021 14:28

Michelle Obama was so right with what she said about public service:

"Public service is a bright, sharp, hot spotlight," said Mrs Obama, who spent eight years in the White House while her husband, Barack Obama, was US president.
"And most people don't understand it, and nor should they. The thing that I always keep in mind is that none of this is about us in public service, it's about the people we serve."

Love that woman.

SallyLockheart · 16/11/2021 14:29

I would hope not. However, while H&M continue to feed on their victimhood in the only way they seem to know how - aiming to protect their privacy but at the same time throwing spite and unsubstantiated accusations at (mostly) Harry's famous family, leading to increased press interest and intrusion due to those revelations - all done for profit for H&M, then I doubt it.

SallyLockheart · 16/11/2021 14:30

that was in response to Viviennemary