Meghan court case live today

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@rubicscubicle

It was already discussed on here.

Diana and Sophie, also had special invites to something or the other that was the first time it was done. I am not talking about Sandrigham specifically.

Nope, sorry 'something or other' that was 'already said on here' is no indication of anything! Until you can do better than that, there is no credible challenge to the info that Meghan got privileges that other marrying in women did not get.

*They would leak if a fly flew across Meghan's face.

They leak on people's farts. ffs*

Oh I thought you meant set the record straight with a comment. Why would they “leak” an alternative story? I’m sure they would be conscious that that would sound extremely petty when talking about such a serious matter.

[quote madisonbridges]@rubicscubicle
I don't think MM has a psychologist at the palace does she? Also, was she not wanting a proper rehab, like to go somewhere for a proper therapy?

I wouldn't think they pay a psychologist to sit around the Palace in case,someone needs a consult, no. In the same way the Queens doctor doesn't hang around the Palace. The Queen rings up when she needs to be seen - it's not that hard. Harry has tons of contacts in mental health, he even has his own therapist, so she'd just ring up and book an appointment and I'd expect they'd do a home visit.
As for Meghan wanting to go into a rehab centre, that's just ridiculous and I don't believe for a second that she thought that would happen. She's complaining about intrusion into her life but she's going to sit in group therapy with strangers and spill out all her secrets and she risk it being sold to the press? Oh please. And in any case, you can't just book yourself into rehab - you have to be assessed first. Hence ring your doctor.[/quote]
You know very well, I don't mean Drs are just sitting around at the palace. Who is the doctor that MM just rings up? The queen has one. I was saying, either she wanted one assigned to her to call.

Yes, MM was news were followed, so that it would not be above the press to bug or break into a therapy office she is seeing, hence why she needed to follow protocol and have the palace organise one for her.

Therapy rehab exist where the press cannot get ahold of any information. The one in Marylebone hosts all sorts of high profile heirs, celebrities, etc. Not a single word has ever been leaked. I remember the only thing the press. could cover was a high profile patient who used to order food from a Michelin restaurant nearby. They managed to just intercept that info because of delivery, other than that, they had nothing at all, about his sessions, or anything that goes on inside, no matter how much they were all over the case.

Harry said he was supported through the first quarter of 2020. The place corrected that and showed proof that he was supported until summer 2020. Harry countered that by saying when he said first quarter he didn't mean the first quarter in the general sense (as the audience would have perceived it) but he meant first quarter in a fiscal sense. Hence he had not misled the public.
However in his interview, he started to say he was supported until the summer but he stopped and corrected himself and said til the end of the first quarter. Obviously first quarter sounds less time than through the summer and it's hard not to draw the conclusion that this had been discussed and rehearsed beforehand to elicit most sympathy.

@rubicscubicle

It was already discussed on here.

Diana and Sophie, also had special invites to something or the other that was the first time it was done. I am not talking about Sandrigham specifically.

Source?? Just flinging “facts “ out like that is utterly meaningless.

Meghan was invited to travel with the Queen on the Royal Train in 2018 soon after she married where as Catherine did not take that trip until 10+ years after her marriage and Harry has never been on it. A small but significant gesture.

Who is the doctor that MM just rings up? The queen has one. I was saying, either she wanted one assigned to her to call.

Not sure what you mean by this but presumably all Royals would have access to a “palace”doctor and would be provided with contact details of same. What would have happened if she had got gastroenteritis or something? Would she have been denied access to a doctor?

@SickAndTiredAgain

She looked utterly stunning in that white dress she wore for the evening of her wedding.

Oh I loved that dress. And the big turquoise ring!

Agree I preferred it to her wedding dress, the night time dress was a wow.

@madisonbridges

Harry said he was supported through the first quarter of 2020. The place corrected that and showed proof that he was supported until summer 2020. Harry countered that by saying when he said first quarter he didn't mean the first quarter in the general sense (as the audience would have perceived it) but he meant first quarter in a fiscal sense. Hence he had not misled the public. However in his interview, he started to say he was supported until the summer but he stopped and corrected himself and said til the end of the first quarter. Obviously first quarter sounds less time than through the summer and it's hard not to draw the conclusion that this had been discussed and rehearsed beforehand to elicit most sympathy.

Well at least, even if hazy, you do remember some of the things that were discussed on here.

Unlike most posters who claim to know absolutely nothing when they were posting on the numbered threads, and saw receipts, and probably followed these thread longer and more closely than I had, but now want re-proof to be dug up. No wonder H&M supporters get discouraged by this ingeniousness.

A transparent strategy, but maybe I should adopt it myself.

As for you last point, you may twist it all you want, what matters, is that he did correct himself.

@JaniieJones

'H&M told us what happened when they followed protocol. '

They have direct access to private doctors. Why do you think they need to run their private and confidential medical matters via HR who are tasked with managing employees holidays and annual leave?!

This. M was also pregnant and under the care of The Portland Hospital, who have a Psychiatrist available.

you may twist it all you want, what matters, is that he did correct himself.

He didn't correct himself. He was supported until summer. End of quarter one of the fiscal year. So when he said summer, there was nothing to correct.

If you mean the fiscal year, you say fiscal year. This wasn't a board meeting. It was a relaxed Interview to give their side of the story to the public.

Back to the point about nor having enough money to support her, I don't believe because she was financially supported. A decision to nor financially support the future daughter in law of the future king is a huge decision that will involve lots of people, lots if data and budgetary information. It wouldn't be made on 'someone doesn't like meghan' It won't be undone because of Harry's amazing negotiating skills or because he threw a strop. That's not how business or finance works.

Its doesn't even make sense.

You know very well, I don't mean Drs are just sitting around at the palace.

Sorry, I misunderstood. But thinking about its obvious,what you meant. I apologise.

Who is the doctor that MM just rings up? The queen has one. I was saying, either she wanted one assigned to her to call.

I can't believe that she wasn't registered with a doctor and dentist when she took up residence in the UK. Just like we all do as either citizens or residents in any country. She'll have contacted her doctor when she was first pregnant and he'll have referred her to an obstetrician or maybe choice of obstetricians. When she started with mental health problems, she had enough nous to ring up HR. Why not ring your doctor who is likely much more confidential? That's what I did when I had a mental breakdown. It really doesn't take that much thinking to ring them when you're unwell.
I understand they're royalty and use private rather than nhs, but the procedures for all of us are much the same.

Why is everyone going on about Portland Drs. The dr's are there to help support you for a short term. They will then give you a reference for longer term to someone else.
Surely the palace has to sign off on that, and make sure that the therapist is appropriate, approved and confidential enough. It sounds like that is what they were not willing to do.

If MM just goes ahead and phones some random, saying yes we know him, and the info is leaked, bugged, stolen etc. Surely you all will be here, saying why did she not use approved dr's by the palace since they know who is the best etc.

Before she sued, I'd never heard about the so called leaked letter. But as I love a bit of royal smut as much as anyone else, you can bet I looked it up, and I'm following the story now. This case continues, and is in the newspapers now, and plenty of people here have seen to comment. Yesterday the pair of them turned up to a Veterans thing in New York, with her dressed in a totally inappropriate revealing red ball gown. Is it a case of any attention is better than no attention? You know, like when your 2 year old plays up even though they'll get spoken to sharply, because that's better than being ignored?

@Nyxly

you may twist it all you want, what matters, is that he did correct himself.

He didn't correct himself. He was supported until summer. End of quarter one of the fiscal year. So when he said summer, there was nothing to correct.

If you mean the fiscal year, you say fiscal year. This wasn't a board meeting. It was a relaxed Interview to give their side of the story to the public.

Back to the point about nor having enough money to support her, I don't believe because she was financially supported. A decision to nor financially support the future daughter in law of the future king is a huge decision that will involve lots of people, lots if data and budgetary information. It wouldn't be made on 'someone doesn't like meghan' It won't be undone because of Harry's amazing negotiating skills or because he threw a strop. That's not how business or finance works.

Its doesn't even make sense.

No it does not make sense, hence Harry saying he realised this was going to be difficult. Someone, probably high up, said this and he realised they were just being awkward. Ofcourse they can afford, but why say it, why say they cannot? I'm sure Harry thought, wtf? get the f*ck out of my way, and went ahead and MM worked with him. On hindsight, I think he mentioned it, as he could now see it was just another obstacle being put in their way.

"Yes, MM was news were followed, so that it would not be above the press to bug or break into a therapy office she is seeing, hence why she needed to follow protocol and have the palace organise one for her.
Therapy rehab exist where the press cannot get ahold of any information. The one in Marylebone hosts all sorts of high profile heirs, celebrities, etc. Not a single word has ever been leaked. I remember the only thing the press. could cover was a high profile patient who used to order food from a Michelin restaurant nearby. They managed to just intercept that info because of delivery, other than that, they had nothing at all, about his sessions, or anything that goes on inside, no matter how much they were all over the case."

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I don't believe the press would bug the therapy offices. I'm 100% sure the therapists wouldn't break confidentiality. But there are lots ofa other people that go in and out of rehab centres. The press would pay a fortune and risk fines to know that she was in rehab. There's a huge possibility it would be leaked and she'd know that. And rehab centres where you stay usually use private sessions and group sessions. If she couldn't participate in group sessions (and who could blame her for being reluctant to talk), I don't think her therapy would be very helpful.
Anyway, you don't just walk into rehab centres with your bags packed and say you want to stay. You have to be referred. Hence you have to go to your doctor first.

Why is everyone going on about Portland Drs. The dr's are there to help support you for a short term. They will then give you a reference for longer term to someone else.

Well then they could have given her a reference to someone else. Why would she need to go to HR? But people are highlighting the Portland because that is where she had her antenatal care and one of the consultants there is a specialist in maternal mental health And the Portland also advertise that they are specialists in maternal mental health.

Surely the palace has to sign off on that, and make sure that the therapist is appropriate, approved and confidential enough. It sounds like that is what they were not willing to do

How you square this with Diana regularly consulting a psychic and seeing a Chinese medical practitioner I do not know…

The press would pay a fortune and risk fines to know that she was in rehab

Just on this - the papers would be taking a huge risk if they reported on this - Naomi Campbell took (and won) a breach of privacy case when photos of her attending and NA or AA group were published.

@Serenster

The press would pay a fortune and risk fines to know that she was in rehab

Just on this - the papers would be taking a huge risk if they reported on this - Naomi Campbell took (and won) a breach of privacy case when photos of her attending and NA or AA group were published.

Yes, that was what I always thought. Her stated reason for suicidal ideation was negative press attention. And she thought "going away" for treatment in some group setting that could be so easily leaked to the press was going to help matters? I understand that she may not have been thinking clearly, but the problem with that reasoning would have been obvious to everyone else.

Well at least, even if hazy, you do remember some of the things that were discussed on here.

Er, no. Never read a thread on it. Didnt even watch the full interview - just a few clips. And Harry talking about being financially cut off was one of them. My comments were all from my own reading and observation.

Unlike most posters who claim to know absolutely nothing when they were posting on the numbered threads, and saw receipts, and probably followed these thread longer and more closely than I had, but now want re-proof to be dug up. No wonder H&M supporters get discouraged by this ingeniousness.

Oh. Posted my last comment before I read this properly. Oh dear. I'm one of those posters denying I'd read something. But it's true. I have read a couple of threads but posters get so aggressive that I don't like to get involved.

A transparent strategy, but maybe I should adopt it myself.

Not sure what this is about. Denying reading? Demanding proof? I never demand proof because this all just tittle tatttle really. None of us know the truth to everything. (And even Meghan and Harry have admitted that they can't remember the full truth of things either! 😉 )

As for you last point, you may twist it all you want, what matters, is that he did correct himself.

I'm not trying to twist anything. I'm just repeating what they all said. Just to be clear, he didn't correct himself. He defended himself by saying he hadn't misled anyone as his first quarter referred to the fiscal year and not the real year. So maybe he didn't mislead tax accountants but the rest of us....

Someone, probably high up, said this and he realised they were just being awkward. Ofcourse they can afford, but why say it, why say they cannot?

So you think it was clearer up as a nonsense statement made by someone who can not make that decision.....and it was worth mentioning. Yeah, that makes no sense either.

If all his feelings around it 'not being easy' was based on someone who talked nonsense. But was never pulled up on it.

I have colleagues who talk shit about plans for the company I work at. Most people just roll their eyes and move on. Not take it as their lives are being made more difficult because its nonsense.

Its more like Harry can't even deal with potential difficulties. Unless it's a smooth path he finds it too difficult.

Yes, I can imagine Harry saying 'get the fuck out of my way' of course 🙄

@Serenster

The press would pay a fortune and risk fines to know that she was in rehab

Just on this - the papers would be taking a huge risk if they reported on this - Naomi Campbell took (and won) a breach of privacy case when photos of her attending and NA or AA group were published.

That's why I said they'd risk the huge fines they'd end up with. It wasn't just Naomi Campbell that sued under the Human Rights Act, it was also Jamie Theakston and a footballer. I think NC received £3,500 compensation? That's why I think there aren't many leaks about people going to therapy. But if MM booked in, you'd bet the press would find a way to get it on their front sheet. And fines be damned.

@BligeMe

Before she sued, I'd never heard about the so called leaked letter. But as I love a bit of royal smut as much as anyone else, you can bet I looked it up, and I'm following the story now. This case continues, and is in the newspapers now, and plenty of people here have seen to comment. Yesterday the pair of them turned up to a Veterans thing in New York, with her dressed in a totally inappropriate revealing red ball gown. Is it a case of any attention is better than no attention? You know, like when your 2 year old plays up even though they'll get spoken to sharply, because that's better than being ignored?

She was dressed as though she was at an Oscars ceremony. Completely over the top.

I think the only person who would leak about where she was would have been Meghan herself.