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Meghan court case live today

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callmeadoctor · 09/11/2021 12:57

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rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 12:26

Harry said that, and said he realised things were not going to be easy.

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 12:27

@smilesy

*I am actually surprised that the 'royal source' has not disputed and come up with an alternate story regrind the request for help. Which makes me think it's true*

Or maybe they thought it was so ridiculous it wasn’t worth commenting on 🤷‍♀️

They would leak if a fly flew across Meghan's face.

They leak on people's farts. ffs

Nyxly · 12/11/2021 12:28

@rubicscubicle

Harry said that, and said he realised things were not going to be easy.
And why do you take what he says as fact?
Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2021 12:29

I am actually surprised that the 'royal source' has not disputed and come up with an alternate story behind the request for help

Perhaps, knowing that anything that doesn't quite suit H&M can lead to a blizzard of self-publicity, they felt silence was the better choice?

Because we already know the palace lie I wouldn't trust their account anyway. However now it's been shown that H&M do the same I guess it becomes a case of "pick your poison"

SueSaid · 12/11/2021 12:30

'Harry said that, and said he realised things were not going to be easy.'

Oh well it must be true then. Bit like he was cut off financially without mentioning the millions transitional wodge he was given, or not colluding in FF despite embarrassing evidence to the contrary.

He is a mass of contradiction, resentment and vitriol.

smilesy · 12/11/2021 12:36

She won't have a resident gynae Dr or whatever either, but their own private drs will provide the contact for specialist treatment. Not the office staff in HR.

Now I think about it, this has been discussed previously and I googled and discovered that at the hospital that MM gave birth in and which presumably took care of her antenatally, there was an obstetrician who specialised in the mental health of mothers to be. I provided links at the time.

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 12:37

@JaniieJones

'You mean the same palace that told mm to go work, because they did not 'have money for her'? That one?'

Why would they say this and why on earth do you believe it?!

Why do you not believe it?

I believe that someone or people did not like the idea of Meghan in the palace and her being Harry's wife, and were just making life difficult for them.

I remember a former employee saying do not make out that Harry is serous about MM, it's just a fling, nothing more. So it would not surprise me that some people who work there and have been there for years did not like the idea of an American going in and being more senior than them/ black person being more senior/ independent woman/she did to date Harry long enough, and must pay her dues/ take your pick.

The palace is littered with old people with old views, who are titled and entitled too. With their own set ways,

That is why I believe MM was being treated differently from others marrying in.

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 12:38

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I am actually surprised that the 'royal source' has not disputed and come up with an alternate story behind the request for help

Perhaps, knowing that anything that doesn't quite suit H&M can lead to a blizzard of self-publicity, they felt silence was the better choice?

Because we already know the palace lie I wouldn't trust their account anyway. However now it's been shown that H&M do the same I guess it becomes a case of "pick your poison"

Hasn't stopped them from leaking before though, has it.
Skiptheheartsandflowers · 12/11/2021 12:38

@rubicscubicle

And since 'The Palace' has don't it for plenty of others, do you really think they just couldn't be arsed doing it for the woman carrying the future Kings grandchild?

You mean the same palace that told mm to go work, because they did not 'have money for her'? That one?

There were reports saying the Queen had offered the option for Meghan to continue her acting career after they got married not for financial reasons (that seems laughable anyway) but as a way to maintain a sense of her own identity. Here's a link about it.

www.newsweek.com/queen-elizabeth-gave-meghan-markle-chance-acting-princess-diana-biographer-andrew-morton-1581590

This looks like another of those 'recollections may vary' instances. Or maybe someone forgot what was said or done again.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 12/11/2021 12:41

That is why I believe MM was being treated differently from others marrying in.

She was, in a number of positive ways - invited to Sandringham Christmas before they got married, which hadn't happened before; went on first solo trip with the Queen soon after marriage, when other wives waited much longer, etc.

TitledLady · 12/11/2021 12:42

That is why I believe MM was being treated differently from others marrying in.

To be fair she was also treated differently, ie favourably, by the Queen who broke protocol by inviting Meghan to official events and Christmas at Sandringham as Harry’s fiancé. Not even Kate who had been William’s girlfriend for years was given that privilege.

TitledLady · 12/11/2021 12:43

X post!

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 12:43

@JaniieJones

'Harry said that, and said he realised things were not going to be easy.'

Oh well it must be true then. Bit like he was cut off financially without mentioning the millions transitional wodge he was given, or not colluding in FF despite embarrassing evidence to the contrary.

He is a mass of contradiction, resentment and vitriol.

The palace came out with the same statement as Harry. it was discussed on here, about shifting things around for the accounts to read a certain way.

How much are those millions? I note that they did not say how much Harry was given, infact the amount, was 'bundled' with William and Miscellaneous . So no one can say, hold on that is not enough for security, no specific dates, just bundled timelines. To top it off, they waffled on about Harry's inheritance and Netflix deals - which has nothing to do with them, and bang out of order to talk about his finances, stating amounts, that have nothing to do with them.

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 12:45

@TitledLady

That is why I believe MM was being treated differently from others marrying in.

To be fair she was also treated differently, ie favourably, by the Queen who broke protocol by inviting Meghan to official events and Christmas at Sandringham as Harry’s fiancé. Not even Kate who had been William’s girlfriend for years was given that privilege.

Another twist.

She was not the first, it was done for Diana and I can't remember, I think it was Sophie.

She had no special treatment just for her.

Serenster · 12/11/2021 12:45

My bad on this one. I did not check it today, my info is outdated. I see however that the page has been edited since then. You got this from Wikipedia

Yes. Gosh you are quite the detective, aren’t you. Especially because I literally said in my post “Wikipedia manages to list the following…” Grin Grin.

Anyway, its not a complete list because his maternal grandmother Joanne Newton also spoke publically about how much she was looking forward to attending the wedding. There may well have been other guests from the Newton side of the family attending too, of course.

SueSaid · 12/11/2021 12:46

'Why do you not believe it?'

Because H isn't the best for actual facts is he.

It is just utterly unbelievable that 'the Palace' would say she had to work as they couldn’t afford her. The Queen gave them her most experienced staff to aid the transition, do you seriously think 'tell her to get a job' was ever mentioned. No chance.

madisonbridges · 12/11/2021 12:46

@rubicscubicle
I don't think MM has a psychologist at the palace does she? Also, was she not wanting a proper rehab, like to go somewhere for a proper therapy?

I wouldn't think they pay a psychologist to sit around the Palace in case,someone needs a consult, no. In the same way the Queens doctor doesn't hang around the Palace. The Queen rings up when she needs to be seen - it's not that hard. Harry has tons of contacts in mental health, he even has his own therapist, so she'd just ring up and book an appointment and I'd expect they'd do a home visit.
As for Meghan wanting to go into a rehab centre, that's just ridiculous and I don't believe for a second that she thought that would happen. She's complaining about intrusion into her life but she's going to sit in group therapy with strangers and spill out all her secrets and she risk it being sold to the press? Oh please. And in any case, you can't just book yourself into rehab - you have to be assessed first. Hence ring your doctor.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 12/11/2021 12:49

it was done for Diana and I can't remember, I think it was Sophie.

It wasn't done for Diana. They only got engaged in the February then married in July. Feel free to provide evidence otherwise.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2021 12:50

Hasn't stopped (the palace) from leaking before though, has it

Absolutely - and not always truthfully, which is why I mentioned palace lies
It's just a shame that H&M don't reliably tell the truth either; after all they've told us often enough about its importance

smilesy I was just about to mention the Portland's experts in maternal mental health. Almost impossible to imagine such a thing would be neglected - unless that's yet another thing that's been "forgotten"?

TitledLady · 12/11/2021 12:51

There were reports saying the Queen had offered the option for Meghan to continue her acting career after they got married not for financial reasons (that seems laughable anyway) but as a way to maintain a sense of her own identity. Here's a link about it.

Meghan struggled to land parts in Hollywood for years before finally getting on a minor, but regular, Canadian cable TV show. Suits was actually in its final season when she met Harry and she didn’t have any other acting jobs lined up. Therefore it was a far more a flattering narrative to portray herself as having sacrificed her career for Harry and one that places a huge burden of responsibility on his shoulders. HM the Queen is worldly wise enough to have seen through this and hence offered Meghan the option of continuing her acting career so as not to play into Meghan’s hands as no doubt this would have been flagged as yet another victimisation by the RF should she ever go to the media which of course she eventually did do with the Oprah interview. Her maj is nobody’s fool!

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 12/11/2021 12:54

they waffled on about Harry's inheritance and Netflix deals - which has nothing to do with them, and bang out of order to talk about his finances, stating amounts, that have nothing to do with them.

Not really sure how Harry's finances are 'nothing to do with' the family who actually provide those finances? The Netflix deal, ok. The rest is very much their business too.

Also in this post you both say that amounts aren't mentioned, but then that they are. Can you clarify please what amounts were mentioned, for what and by whom - with a link please, not 'I remember...' as that isn't exactly credible these days Smile

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 12:55

It was already discussed on here.

Diana and Sophie, also had special invites to something or the other that was the first time it was done. I am not talking about Sandrigham specifically.

loislovesstewie · 12/11/2021 12:55

I love the generalization of old people having old views! Perhaps when you get to a certain age it becomes easier to see people for what they really are, i.e. better at judging character.

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 12:57

@Skiptheheartsandflowers

they waffled on about Harry's inheritance and Netflix deals - which has nothing to do with them, and bang out of order to talk about his finances, stating amounts, that have nothing to do with them.

Not really sure how Harry's finances are 'nothing to do with' the family who actually provide those finances? The Netflix deal, ok. The rest is very much their business too.

Also in this post you both say that amounts aren't mentioned, but then that they are. Can you clarify please what amounts were mentioned, for what and by whom - with a link please, not 'I remember...' as that isn't exactly credible these days Smile

They specified the amount Diana left for Harry, which is nothing to do with them.

They also specified that he had a multimillion deal with Netflix, which has nothing to do with them.

The only amount they did not specify was how much Charles gave him and at what exact date.

Serenster · 12/11/2021 12:57

And yet again, Rubicscubcle…

It was simply impossible for Diana to have attended a Sandringham Christmas as a royal fiancée. Prince Charles proposed to Diana on 6 February 1981 and they married on 29 July 1981. She did not go to Sandringham for Christmas 1980, either.

Sophie is the same - her engagement was announced on 6 January 1999 and they were married later that same year. Prince Edward had proposed to her before Christmas when they’re were on holiday int he Bahamas…because they were going to spend Christmas apart!) but they agreed to keep it a secret until after he had spoken to her father.

Diana did attend Balmoral for a weekend as guest in November 1980 but that is quite different. Balmoral regularly hosts guests for weekend (serving prime Ministers are the best known example). Christmas at Sandringham is for family members only.