Meghan court case live today

[callmeadoctor]

The lack of mental health support allegation doesn’t make any sense. Why didn’t Harry help her to find the support she needed, given he himself had been receiving therapy? It makes no sense to me.
I agree ,
they gave the impression that they were all alone and had no help from anyone , yet yesterday
Meghan said the letter was not actually her idea , senior royals suggested it to her , I presume prince Charles? This is proof enough that they were not alone , she confided in them about personal matters, if they went to the Queen or Charles or anyone , and said look this is too much for me , I’m pregnant and im under so much stress I’m not feeling ok . I need help. I don’t think they would’ve turned them away,

'H&M told us what happened when they followed protocol. '

They have direct access to private doctors. Why do you think they need to run their private and confidential medical matters via HR who are tasked with managing employees holidays and annual leave?!

Jack only had his mum, dad (and possibly a brother?), there was only one other relative, a connected uncle who went to Eton. So not clear why MM is singled out as having to collect relatives she does not know

Yet another ridiculous and easily disproved assertion from rubicubicle.

Jack Brooksbank’s family is not exactly a famous one, and so there is no reason that anyone would know every relative who attended his wedding. But even so Wikipedia manages to list the following:

George and Nicola Brooksbank, the groom's parents
Thomas Brooksbank, the groom's brother
David Brooksbank, the groom's paternal uncle
Scott Brooksbank, the groom's first cousin
Charles Brooksbank, the groom's first cousin
Anna Brooksbank, the groom’s first cousin
Sir Nicholas and Lady Brooksbank, the groom's first cousin, once removed and his wife
Thomas Brooksbank, the groom's second cousin
Victoria Brooksbank, the groom’s second cousin

H&M told us what happened when they followed protocol.
In the Oprah interview he said help was denied but In "The Me You Can't See" he said that he didn't go to his family because he thought that they wouldn't help.
There's video of him talking to William and Catherine when they were doings to Heads Up campaign and Harry says that William had been urging him for years to talk to a therapist and that it wasn't healthy to bottle things up. It sounds like his brother would have helped source a therapist and would have intervened if their father had not been so keen .
Harry has credited William with having him go into therapy but has also said that he went to therapy after an argument with Meghan. Harry's recollection around this issue truly has varied.

@JaniieJones

'H&M told us what happened when they followed protocol. '

They have direct access to private doctors. Why do you think they need to run their private and confidential medical matters via HR who are tasked with managing employees holidays and annual leave?!

My understanding is that the palace arranged doctors for the therapy for H & W when Diana died (I think for Charles too). So why could they not do it for MM?

My understanding is that the palace arranged doctors for the therapy for H & W when Diana died (I think for Charles too)

“Your understanding”

I think we’re going to need a source for that, please? Unless you mean his PA/Equerry/Secretary made the bookings, which I’m sure they did.

H&M told us what happened when they followed protocol. Clearly they got the help after, but this is where the palace stood when they asked for help.

No they didn't. They complained that no would help them and that they called HR who wouldn't.

Where is the proof phoning HR is protocol? And let's say it is. They may not have been able to arrange things, themselves. But I bet they directed them to who can. J very much doubt the Prince calls HR says is wife is suicidal and HR say "ah shame. We can't do anything", put the phone down and it never goes anywhere else. The HR staff will have protocol to follow and there's no evidence they didn't follow it.

As for your brothers business.....this situation doesn't even make sense. Why would your brothers firm be set up with you being part of it? If you think the members of the Royal Family are employees the same way the cleaners are, you don't live in the real world.

Your understanding is wrong ‘the Palace’ in this context meant the family as in the Queen and Prince Philip and a Prince Charles . Not the staff in the office, that has to be one of your most ridiculous statements

The family, bar the Yorks, are at the very least wary especially of Meghan and let's be frank why wouldn't they be

The wariness would be understandable, but is there any particular reason why the Yorks might feel otherwise? I realise they probably have to take whatever support's available, but I didn't think they were ever that close to H&M

Concerning the "royal doctors" who Meghan could have approached, in fairness I can see that someone who feels the family are against them might be reluctant for fear of what might get back. That said, let's not forget the "lack of support" is alleged too ... perhaps there were offers which are also something she's "forgotten"?

@Serenster

My understanding is that the palace arranged doctors for the therapy for H & W when Diana died (I think for Charles too)

“Your understanding”

I think we’re going to need a source for that, please? Unless you mean his PA/Equerry/Secretary made the bookings, which I’m sure they did.

I won't dig up the internet for you, but there was definitely an interview with Charles and H&W when they were teens, where they said this and talked about how they coped with Diana's death.

I think if H&M were fearful of using 'royal doctors', HR definitely wasn't the right move. As at most they could only put them in touch with 'Royal Doctors' and the contact would be recorded and shared.

@BananaPB

I agree about suicidal people not being able to think "straight" and that Harry should have been more proactive about this - he has a therapist and could have even asked his therapist for help.

I agree it's hard to think when you are in that situation. Even for Harry maybe. However, I'm sure HR didn't just say no, bugger off, nothing to do with us. They probably said something like I'm sorry you aren't feeling well. Unfortunately we cannot help as it doesn't fall under our department. We suggest you use your unlimited expensive access to private doctors to get help! Maybe the email will be leaked one day ...

@Serenster

Jack only had his mum, dad (and possibly a brother?), there was only one other relative, a connected uncle who went to Eton. So not clear why MM is singled out as having to collect relatives she does not know

Yet another ridiculous and easily disproved assertion from rubicubicle.

Jack Brooksbank’s family is not exactly a famous one, and so there is no reason that anyone would know every relative who attended his wedding. But even so Wikipedia manages to list the following:

George and Nicola Brooksbank, the groom's parents
Thomas Brooksbank, the groom's brother
David Brooksbank, the groom's paternal uncle
Scott Brooksbank, the groom's first cousin
Charles Brooksbank, the groom's first cousin
Anna Brooksbank, the groom’s first cousin
Sir Nicholas and Lady Brooksbank, the groom's first cousin, once removed and his wife
Thomas Brooksbank, the groom's second cousin
Victoria Brooksbank, the groom’s second cousin

My bad on this one. I did not check it today, my info is outdated. I see however that the page has been edited since then. You got this from Wikipedia.

H&M told us what happened when they followed protocol. Clearly they got the help after, but this is where the palace stood when they asked for help.

I'll never be convinced that when the Queen feels poorly, she rings HR for a consult! Nor that when Kate got hyperemesis gravidarum, she didn't mention it to Wiiliam but thought she'd run it past HR instead.

I am actually surprised that the 'royal source' has not disputed and come up with an alternate story regrind the request for help.
Which makes me think it's true.

I won't dig up the internet for you, but there was definitely an interview with Charles and H&W when they were teens, where they said this and talked about how they coped with Diana's death.

But HR aren't 'the palace'.'The Palace- isn't anyone one person and definitely doesn't suggest there a strict protocol of calling HR to request some counselling. That could have been a doctor that worked for them, an aide, the Queen herself anyone or Charles. Or Prince Phillip could have suggested it.

And since 'The Palace' has don't it for plenty of others, do you really think they just couldn't be arsed doing it for the woman carrying the future Kings grandchild?

@madisonbridges

H&M told us what happened when they followed protocol. Clearly they got the help after, but this is where the palace stood when they asked for help.

I'll never be convinced that when the Queen feels poorly, she rings HR for a consult! Nor that when Kate got hyperemesis gravidarum, she didn't mention it to Wiiliam but thought she'd run it past HR instead.

The queen already has doctors, has had them for a long time.

I don't think MM has a psychologist at the palace does she?

Also, was she not wanting a proper rehab, like to go somewhere for a proper therapy?

Either MM is dealing as a family member and therefore things get investigated privately, like the racism claim. Or she is part of the workforce and HR investigates her as an employee. You cannot have both.

Meghan was not employed by the Royal Family because she married into it but an investigation can be carried out into whether employees were bullied in the workplace. The investigation will be expected to look into what the employer (aka the Royal Family) did, could have done, should have done etc.

If an employee came forward about racism in the Royal Family, then again it would be expect to be dealt with via HR.

It’s interesting that Meghan was able to employ the obstetrician that she wanted. What’s really odd is that the obstetrician failed to do a very basic part of their job by checking on the mental health of their patient. After all, antenatal and postnatal care in the U.K. involves a mental health check for every appointment. Unless Meghan forgot that they did do that check or chose not to divulge the information. As I say, very odd.

And since 'The Palace' has don't it for plenty of others, do you really think they just couldn't be arsed doing it for the woman carrying the future Kings grandchild?

You mean the same palace that told mm to go work, because they did not 'have money for her'? That one?

If I go to my brother's company and start insulting his employees, will I be dealt with by HR as I am not an employee. Surely their rules do not apply to me, and should be a civil case.

HR hasn’t said they are dealing with MM; they have said they are investigating the bullying claims. If you went to your brother’s company and insulated employees, then it would be an HR job to ensure you were prevented access to the office in future to ensure a safe environment for the employees. They couldn’t reprimand you as such because you wouldn’t have a contract with them. The employees do have a contract and as such deserve and are entitled to protection from their employer.

I am actually surprised that the 'royal source' has not disputed and come up with an alternate story regrind the request for help.
Which makes me think it's true

Or maybe they thought it was so ridiculous it wasn’t worth commenting on 🤷‍♀️

@rubicscubicle

And since 'The Palace' has don't it for plenty of others, do you really think they just couldn't be arsed doing it for the woman carrying the future Kings grandchild?

You mean the same palace that told mm to go work, because they did not 'have money for her'? That one?

But did they say that or did Meghan say they said it?

'I don't think MM has a psychologist at the palace does she?'

She won't have a resident gynae Dr or whatever either, but their own private drs will provide the contact for specialist treatment. Not the office staff in HR.

@rubicscubicle

And since 'The Palace' has don't it for plenty of others, do you really think they just couldn't be arsed doing it for the woman carrying the future Kings grandchild?

You mean the same palace that told mm to go work, because they did not 'have money for her'? That one?

Again, no proof that was ever said.

They clearly did have money for her because she didn't work. And even if they didn't, are you telling me Harry can't afford for his wife to not work, if she doesn't want to?

Would you prefer them to ban her from working?

Its well known, that Peince Charles wants to cut back the amount of working Royals.

And how does that prove that H&M, who have been proved to lie, were refused help for her mental health?

How are the 2 connected? If money I'd the reason they didn't get her help, both of them have enough personal wealth to get help. No one including H&M have suggested this was a budget decision.

'You mean the same palace that told mm to go work, because they did not 'have money for her'? That one?'

Why would they say this and why on earth do you believe it?!