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Meghan court case live today

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callmeadoctor · 09/11/2021 12:57

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AtillatheHun · 12/11/2021 09:15

The red dress was gallopingly inappropriate for the occasion- she does suffer with her clothing judgement. The fact it was custom made and still didn’t fit wasn’t a good advertisement for Herrera

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 12/11/2021 09:15

As long as she keeps up the hard work she will be fine

Looking forward to that first full episode of the Archwell podcast any day now! They will be able to re-promote last year's holiday special to get it going.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 12/11/2021 09:17

@AtillatheHun

The red dress was gallopingly inappropriate for the occasion- she does suffer with her clothing judgement. The fact it was custom made and still didn’t fit wasn’t a good advertisement for Herrera
I'd agree with this. The fit wasn't right. OTOH, she looked fantastic in that black top, trousers and heels she wore for that TV appearance. That look really works for her.
Serenster · 12/11/2021 09:18

Having now read Kason’s Knauf’s witness statement one thing did stand out to me - he mentions that over the last two years lawyers for both the Duchess of DSussex and ANL have sought his assistance to provide relevant evidence he holds in relation to the litigation between them.

Firstly, I was interested to see that Meghan told her lawyers, Schillings to contact him to ask for his assistance. Meghan’s fan base (and certain posters on this site) have consistently painted Mr Knauf as the betrayer-in-chief, “William’s man” in Meghan and Harry’s office who was consistently briefing against them to the press. It is absolutely basic however that you don’t look to make someone hostile to you a witness in your case. So if Schillings approached him, clearly Meghan and Harry don’t see him as the traitor trying to undermine them.

Secondly, obviously Meghan and Harry weren’t approaching him to get this evidence from him! I can only presume they wanted him to talk about his dealings with ANL over the time he was their press officer, and their frustration about the ongoing coverage of Meghan (I have no idea, but that seems most likely). I can well imagine that it would be hugely frustrating (and potentially offensive) to be approached by your former bosses to “cherry pick” some evidence that would help them when they also know there’s a whole load of evidence you have that totally undermines their case, that they are trying to avoid.

And finally, reading the statement in full, there is no way Meghan “forgot” the Finding Freedom discussions. He speaks of multiple conversations and emails over many months. It wasn’t a one-off exchange.

Peaseblossum22 · 12/11/2021 09:21

Meghan will be fine, she's clearly fairly resilient and a fighter . Harry, i'm not so sure , I think he's pretty out of his depth in the US, by all accounts very few of his previous friends have made the cut. The family, bar the Yorks, are at the very least wary especially of Meghan and let's be frank why wouldn't they be. Hopefully he will be able to relax into fatherhood, meet people through his children etc as they grow up but for all he rails against his family they have carefully cocooned him against the outside world for most of his life and now he has lost that, if the marriage fails he faces coming home and trying to mend things but leaving his children behind or trying to make it on his own in the US . Neither will be easy.

LondonWolf · 12/11/2021 09:29

I'd agree with this. The fit wasn't right. OTOH, she looked fantastic in that black top, trousers and heels she wore for that TV appearance. That look really works for her.

She looked completely back to her pre pregnancy weight and glamorous as anything in that appearance - not that that should matter but it clearly does to her so…

I’m not sure bright colours do her any favours. I think dark or pale for her. I’m not criticising, I am the same. I can’t wear colours. Just doesn’t work. She looked utterly stunning in that white dress she wore for the evening of her wedding. Most times when she wears bright colours she just doesn’t look as pulled together as she does when she wears solid all dark or pale.

Words · 12/11/2021 09:33

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SickAndTiredAgain · 12/11/2021 09:36

She looked utterly stunning in that white dress she wore for the evening of her wedding.

Oh I loved that dress. And the big turquoise ring!

Viviennemary · 12/11/2021 09:37

The next two of three years will tell. They might go from strength to strength with their pseudo royal appearances and netflix and spotify money making running for President even. Or it could all come crashing down and end in tears. Its anybodys guess.

JacquelineCarlyle · 12/11/2021 09:43

I'm not a Meghan fan but I thought she looked lovely in that red dress - I don't understand the rationale for the criticism at all!

BananaPB · 12/11/2021 09:49

I thought that the area around her boobs didn't fit right on the red dress. I also thought that she didn't look as confident as usual and seemed to be putting on a happy act at the event. (This isn't a criticism- just a hypothesis that she's not the unfeeling cf that some people paint her as)
She was a lot more relaxed and "normal" when doing the discussion forum though. No comment on the court case might have been more appropriate considering what transpired hours later.

BananaPB · 12/11/2021 10:00

I also think that Remembrance sort of events are considered more sombre so dark colours like black might be more expected. Happy to be corrected on this though

queenofarles · 12/11/2021 10:04

I liked the red dress.

I think Doria had some financial difficulties and that’s why Meghan moved in with her dad,

I heard the rumors too , but it seems so unlikely , don’t think the Mail would let it pass ,

Doria seems like a quiet , gentle woman.

madisonbridges · 12/11/2021 10:07

@JacquelineCarlyle

I'm not a Meghan fan but I thought she looked lovely in that red dress - I don't understand the rationale for the criticism at all!
I'm fat and nothing looks good on me so I'm very envious of her figure. The idea of the dress was great but it didn't fit. The bust looked so bad, I couldn't take my eyes off what was happening there. And the back was too tight. And the whole thing was too wide for her height. It made her look wide too. And she's not. She is very petite and has a lovely figure, as demonstrated when she met the veterans. So that would be my criticism of the dress. But not of her.
Mummy7777 · 12/11/2021 10:09

@BananaPB

I thought that the area around her boobs didn't fit right on the red dress. I also thought that she didn't look as confident as usual and seemed to be putting on a happy act at the event. (This isn't a criticism- just a hypothesis that she's not the unfeeling cf that some people paint her as) She was a lot more relaxed and "normal" when doing the discussion forum though. No comment on the court case might have been more appropriate considering what transpired hours later.
Yes I agree it was ill fitting around the boot area. You need a long torso for that kind of dress and she doesn't have one? And yes I agree they both looked on edge. The way she looks at Harry adoringly is so fake. She is an actress so acting is what she does...
madisonbridges · 12/11/2021 10:11

@queenofarles

I liked the red dress.

I think Doria had some financial difficulties and that’s why Meghan moved in with her dad,

I heard the rumors too , but it seems so unlikely , don’t think the Mail would let it pass ,

Doria seems like a quiet , gentle woman.

I've never read or heard any criticism of Doria. She seems a very nice woman. I think people queried why members of her side of the family weren't at the wedding, but none of us know the real reason so again that wasn't a criticism.
SickAndTiredAgain · 12/11/2021 10:16

@BananaPB

I also think that Remembrance sort of events are considered more sombre so dark colours like black might be more expected. Happy to be corrected on this though
I just searched the event on google images and you have to scroll quite far down to get to pics that aren’t of H&M. But there are a handful of other women in black, green, purple and blue dresses. Meghan’s is the most “wow” style of dress, the others are more “normal” but the colour doesn’t look massively out of place.
madisonbridges · 12/11/2021 10:17

And yes I agree they both looked on edge. The way she looks at Harry adoringly is so fake.

It's the first time I've seen him detach himself from her and position her hand so she couldn't steer him about.

madisonbridges · 12/11/2021 10:18

"But there are a handful of other women in black, green, purple and blue dresses. Meghan’s is the most “wow” style of dress, the others are more “normal” but the colour doesn’t look massively out of place."

I agree. I think it was a fund-raising gala rather than a UK style remembrance ceremony.

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 10:23

[quote PostingForTheFirstTime]**@HeddaGarbled* and @madisonbridges*

My recollection is that JK went to The Times with the allegations of Markle's bullying of Palace staff in the week before the Oprah interview was broadcast. My thinking then was that he anticipated an attack on the professionalism of the Palace staff he managed while Markle was a working Royal, and that he decided to get his side of the story out there.

It was shortly after that he resigned and moved on. So, he decided to come off the fence to defend himself and his staff. (And possibly to settle scores.)[/quote]
Your recollections are wrong.

JK leaked the bullying allegations a year before, I think it was January. My guess is that someone told the times to revive the story just before the Oprah interview, as a preemptive strike.

Interestingly, the palace was quick to say they are investigating as it's an HR issue, yet had told MM she could not get mental health help because she was not part of the workforce.

JK is said to have been the one who recruited his friend to work as PA for MM. She did not know the job, organising weddings and working at a senior royal aide level. When she heard about JK accusations, she wanted nothing to do with it. She later resigned and went back to her original role of being a nanny - she currently works for a rag editor.

JK is K&W's aide.

He was given to H&M, they never themselves went out and hired him. He is a KP employee. It looks like he came out now, in a carefully planned strategy. Sometime this year, KP announced that he is leaving their employment for overseas in 2022. He is apparently 'serving notice', don't know how he is serving a 6 months notice, I am guessing it was to free him to go against the Sussexes. I note that the announcement came after H&M won their case, so I guess he was hoping they lose.

I also note that the media refers to him as 'ex-aide" of MM, instead of saying he is the aide of K&W, which he still is till beginning of next year.

BananaPB · 12/11/2021 10:28

But there are a handful of other women in black, green, purple and blue dresses. Meghan’s is the most “wow” style of dress, the others are more “normal” but the colour doesn’t look massively out of place.

I have no idea why the choice of red would be criticised then. She looked great in red

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 10:30

@madisonbridges

Goes to my post above re: you can still lose even if you win.

And that's why the RF don't sue.

This is categorically untrue !

The royals have had lots of cases over the years, the queen has also had her share of suing papers.
Infact, she won a case similar to MM's one. Media publicised her speech before she made it, without her permission. There is also a case about a picture of Anne she had on her desk during a speech and something, something, can't remember.

SickAndTiredAgain · 12/11/2021 10:31

I also note that the media refers to him as 'ex-aide" of MM, instead of saying he is the aide of K&W, which he still is till beginning of next year.

Presumably because his evidence comes from his position as Meghan’s communications secretary so describing him as that gives context to why these emails went between him and Meghan. I’ve not read much media coverage of this, but the bbc article also says within it that he currently works as chief executive of the royal foundation.
That seems like a perfectly reasonable way to describe him, and to write that article - mentioning both his role with Meghan and his current role.

UglyModernWindows · 12/11/2021 10:32

If we are throwing blanket opinions around then I’d like to say that I was received well and always welcomed when I moved to UK as a 25 year old wide eyed forrin. I don’t agree at all that Brits are unwelcoming, it also angers me that MM has tried to paint this country and it’s citizens in very nasty colours.

In my home country casual rasism is evident in the daily life, the way peope speak and even what is printed in the papers. And this is not some 3rd world country but a modern Scandinavian country.
UK is miles ahead in how racism is tackled and dealt with.

Just to provide a different point of view.

rubicscubicle · 12/11/2021 10:35

As for Harry wanting to sue to give a 'bloody nose', this is ridiculous. Harry has won so many lawsuits against the press.
From them doctoring his pics, bugging his phone etc. there is even one where they are clubbed together with other uk celebrities. He has won all his cases, but the rags do not make a song and dance about it.