Meghan court case live today

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Tom Wells on Twitter is following the trial for anyone interested in today's proceedings:

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@rubicscubicle I think he won a six figure sum on the lottery too.

@rubicscubicle

Because he is not the 'other guests'. He is part of the wedding party. The main part.

Can someone comment on whether it's normal to not send the wedding party formal invitations in the UK? In the US, they'd all get an invitation, same as everyone else. For every wedding I or my husband has ever been in, we received formal invitations in the mail, even though we'd already been asked to be a bridesmaid/groomsman and accepted months before they were mailed.

The wedding party still needs all the basic information like locations, times, etc. that's on the invitation. If there's a choice of dinner options, the couple will need RSVPs from the wedding party same as everyone else, so the caterer has the right numbers. Plus ones are pretty standard for the wedding party, but the wording of the invitation is where people look to see whether their children are invited.

Maybe none of that applies to this specific royal wedding, but since it's the standard practice, I can see why Thomas was surprised not to receive one. Especially since so many were mailed to other guests in the US, and they'd have been mailed months before things went sideways. I wonder if Meghan didn't want to give him a +1 because she was afraid he'd bring Samantha, and thought she'd avoid the whole problem by not mailing an invitation?

[quote BananaPB]@rubicscubicle I think he won a six figure sum on the lottery too.[/quote]
Which he squandered on a dodgy diamond business that went bust.

@rubicscubicle that's really sad to read. It does sound like they did everything they could to resolve things with him.

The wedding party still needs all the basic information like locations, times, etc. that's on the invitation. If there's a choice of dinner options, the couple will need RSVPs from the wedding party same as everyone else, so the caterer has the right numbers. Plus ones are pretty standard for the wedding party, but the wording of the invitation is where people look to see whether their children are invited.

Considering his plus one would have most likely come from overseas, these are things he would have had to discuss in advance, surely. MM did not seem aware of him dating, nor has it ever been implied. So during the organisation of him going to the Cali, taking a flight, fittings, hotels etc. he would have surely then said, can you make that for two as I am bringing someone.

Sorry - meaning the texts sent.

[quote Aspiringmatriarch]**@rubicscubicle that's really sad to read. It does sound like they did everything they could to resolve things with him.[/quote]
Sounds like they were grovelling. tbh.

I didn't send my own parents an invitation through the post but I did save one as a memento for them. I did send one to my MIL but by that point we'd been making arrangements with her for months by phone and email getting her accommodation arranged etc. I think if the bride's parents are hosting and they have the traditional invitation which is worded as coming from them then you definitely send one to the parents of the groom. If the bride and groom are hosting I think it's personal choice to send an official invitation.

For Harry and Meghan, Prince Charles was hosting so the invitations came from him - "His Royal Highness, The Prince of Wales requests the presence of the company of .............. at the marriage of etc etc"

In which case it's odd that TM didn't get one. It looks like they went out in early March for the wedding in May.

It was odd that Doria only flew in a day or so before the wedding, with such a massive occasion I'd have thought it was normal for the bride's parents to come at least a week ahead.

I can understand her not wanting her half siblings and at least one of her nephews I think, who had been really awful in the press in the run up to the wedding. But I don't understand why Doria's family wasn't there - or TM's brother who was a former diplomat who helped Meghan get her internship in the Embassy in Argentina. He sounds like he'd be able to

*pressed too soon

..be able to comport himself at a royal event.

I would say, the problems came with Samantha

Agree. in terms of sisterly character assassination I would say Samantha started it. As soon as MM got engaged she was all over the press slagging her off at every opportunity she could get. But as soon as M retaliates in any way it's somehow more disgusting. SM's own daughter has said she was an abusive mother and defended meghan.

Sounds like they were grovelling. tbh.

It sounds like they were going out of their minds with worry about the whole situation, understandably. It must have been horribly stressful.

@2389Champ

I think I must have missed something here.

If I wrote a letter to a member of my family and they went public with it and sold it to the highest bidder, my beef would be with that person and I be pursuing them in court, , not the paper that published it.

Yes, but the newspaper group has much deeper pockets than Daddy and any potential payout will therefore be much larger. There's no point getting an award of damages against a poor man who can't pay out.

Agree @adrianmolesmole. And yes you're right, her children have spoken out about her which says it all really.

Did Doria get an invitation in advance?
How do you know this?

Also, Doria made in clear she had a life. Nothing wrong with that, she could tell it was going to be royal standards, and if she was needed she was there. I can see why she would leave it all to the PAs, organisers, professionals etc. She hardly knew anyone of the rf. Possibly she did not feel as needed as you do with a normal wedding for us plebs. Nothing odd about it.

Who is Doria's family. My understanding is that she is an only child from her mom and dad.

Did TM's brother attend MM's previous wedding? Why would he attend this one if not. Also, has he really had much to do with her since the internship around 20yrs ago?

Which he squandered on a dodgy diamond business that went bust.
Nope , Who do you think paid for her school fees?

He gave some to Samantha to start a flower shop business, gave his son some , and paid for Megan fees, half of it was invested in a failed business ,
He wasn’t perfect but at least he helped them out.

@Aspiringmatriarch

Sounds like they were grovelling. tbh.

It sounds like they were going out of their minds with worry about the whole situation, understandably. It must have been horribly stressful.

And TM would not even give them the time of day.

@queenofarles

Which he squandered on a dodgy diamond business that went bust. Nope , Who do you think paid for her school fees?

He gave some to Samantha to start a flower shop business, gave his son some , and paid for Megan fees, half of it was invested in a failed business ,
He wasn’t perfect but at least he helped them out.

That is all he paid for. He private high school. As any parent should.

By university it was all gone. He had filed for bankruptcy due to the dodgy diamond business fail.

TM had the opportunity to meet Harry and chickened out at the last minute

This is one I hadn't heard before ... is there a source/proof for it please?

And yes, I'd also like to know why it's acceptable to speculate about Samantha's relationship breakdowns, but not to wonder about H&Ms
After all, posts which did exactly that have been deleted as "speculation", but if we're not supposed to hold Meghan to some different standard, why is it okay to do this with her sister?

Yes, but the newspaper group has much deeper pockets than Daddy and any potential payout will therefore be much larger. There's no point getting an award of damages against a poor man who can't pay out.

Well the newspaper has the wide reach, not TM. So it's sensible to go for them rather than TM. Also H&M believe that it was the newspapers that manipulated TM in the first place, and let's face it , the papers are the ones making the most ££, rather than TM.

What are you talking about. All the H&M threads are about speculation on their lives. We have plenty on here.

@rubicscubicle

Did Doria get an invitation in advance? How do you know this?

Also, Doria made in clear she had a life. Nothing wrong with that, she could tell it was going to be royal standards, and if she was needed she was there. I can see why she would leave it all to the PAs, organisers, professionals etc. She hardly knew anyone of the rf. Possibly she did not feel as needed as you do with a normal wedding for us plebs. Nothing odd about it.

Who is Doria's family. My understanding is that she is an only child from her mom and dad.

Did TM's brother attend MM's previous wedding? Why would he attend this one if not. Also, has he really had much to do with her since the internship around 20yrs ago?

I don't know if Doria got an invite - I hope so, it's the polite thing to do and I imagine the RF like to follow societal rules on those things.

I don't know which family members went to MM's previous wedding but if the benchmark is how close they are then I'm sure some of Harry's relatives are just as distant as MMs on a day-to-day basis.

I thought I recall there being a few Ragland relatives who seemed very fond of Meghan and said lovely things about her when interviewed.

When you have a 600+ guest list you have space for a few cousins even if you aren't super close.

@Aspiringmatriarch

Sounds like they were grovelling. tbh.

It sounds like they were going out of their minds with worry about the whole situation, understandably. It must have been horribly stressful.

Yes, the worry about the letter leaking and how it may "look" to the public, if this happens or if that happens, sounds like classic overthinking to me caused by stress. I've been there, it's not nice. If a person's character is constantly attacked for no good reason it will make you calculated in that you will constantly second-guess and worry about how everything you do will look to others. Seems like this could be what was happening to Meghan, x1000, given that she wasn't given any sympathy in the press plus horrible personal attacks on her from her so-called "family"

That is all he paid for. He private high school. As any parent should
Wrong again, he is not obliged to pay for a very expensive private school , nor was he obliged to pay for Samantha s business or give his son money, they were both adults.

Most people with gambling issue wouldn’t even think about sharing a tiny portion of their winnings , they would gamble it all away again.