Meghan court case live today

[callmeadoctor]

This is what her 5 best friends disclosed, this was the first public mention of a letter.

"Following the wedding, Meghan penned an emotional letter to her father.

“She’s like, ‘Dad, I’m so heartbroken. I love you. I have one father. Please stop victimizing me through the media so we can repair our relationship.’

Because every time her team has to come to her and fact-check something [he has said], it’s an arrow to the heart,” the insider explained."

She clearly wanted the public to know she had sent a letter of reconciliation to her father, her friends did not do that without her authority, no matter what she claims.

I don't think anyone can justify what her family did to her, they are toxic and she rightly cut them out of her life.

Following the wedding, Meghan penned an emotional letter to her father Who does that in this day and age? The letter was a trap and TM obligingly stepped into it.

A trap? Nobody forced him to sell the letter to the highest bidder.

Agree that the letter was a trap and her friends going to people magazine was an attempt to goad him. Maybe he felt that he had nothing to lose- his reputation was in tatters and speculation about the contents of the letter might have quickly overtaken what she wrote.

I wonder how these 5 friends are feeling? I'd imagine that ANL will do their best to have their identities uncovered.

She said two senior royals told her to write the letter but she won’t disclose their identity,

I doubt these two senior members would've just casually suggest it to her , it shows there was close interaction between all three? So this contradicts some of the things suggested on Oprah , she gave the impression that she was all alone and no one was offering her help, specially for depression .

I think Meghan’s image as a poor, sweet vulnerable woman who was just a deer caught in the headlights went out the window when she instructed Jason Knauff to brief everyone that her half sister had 3 children by 3 men, and had lost custody. For a self-proclaimed champion of women that’s an incredibly misogynistic attack which is utterly irrelevant. Genuinely disgusted by this.

And also, what about the children - the nieces/nephews….she’s happy using them as cannon fodder to point score against their mother….Classy.

None of the Markle family seem to have great morals, and they all seem to enjoy a chat with the media a bit too much. Including Meghan.

This time she’s been caught lying - people should be seriously questioning what else she’s been untruthful about.

I wonder if Penguin are going to make sure that Harry has the proof for any bombshells that he drops in his memoir and that it's given to their lawyers?

...part of the explanation Meghan has used for forgetting about it - it wasn’t anything particularly unusual that she would specifically remember and she wouldn’t consider it collaboration

I just looked up the official definition of collaboration, and not surprisingly it says "working jointly on a project"
Given all the detail that was offered (and yes, why would a self proclaimed "supporter of women" be quite so keen to dish the dirt on her sister?) and also given the emails pushing for the story to be put out, I'd say that pretty well qualifies

It's hardly a shock that Meghan's trying to fudge things now she's been caught out, but nobody who expects to be taken seriously gets to alter an entire definition of something to suit - though god knows it's tried all the time

@queenofarles

She said two senior royals told her to write the letter but she won’t disclose their identity,

I doubt these two senior members would've just casually suggest it to her , it shows there was close interaction between all three? So this contradicts some of the things suggested on Oprah , she gave the impression that she was all alone and no one was offering her help, specially for depression .

I don't think the identity of these royals matter since Meghan and Harry are clearly at ease with going against advice. If it wasn't in a legal document then I'd say that they were trying to create interest and anti royal sentiment.

I think this is part of the explanation Meghan has used for forgetting about it - it wasn’t anything particularly unusual that she would specifically remember and she wouldn’t consider it collaboration

Looking at the emails though, there are a lot of them, spread over quite a few weeks. It would be hard to forget about that surely?
Also this from the DoS to Knauf November 19 2018

“Has omid gotten back to you with his outline of what he foresees covering in the book. If so, can please let me know in separate email and then I can make the decision [about whether to invite him to report on a royal engagement] accordingly?"

Sounds like there was definitely potential for collaboration 🤷‍♀️

A lot of press reports are using the word cooperation rather than collaboration. Is it possible that there's a legal definition here?

I'm surprised the quote about Samantha's custody issues has been left to stand, since last night's post where it originated was zapped. This confused me since I'm not sure what's wrong with stating plain facts, though of course I can't look for nuances now it's gone

However we've already had the deliberate attempt at derailment - sadly risen to but now fortunately ceased - so it's good to see things back on track

Oh dear what a mess. This is why the royals have a policy of never complain, never explain. I don’t doubt she suffered criticism, but many in the public eye do. Celebrities with good mental health will tell you that they don’t listen to the noise and turn the other cheek (Holly W said just this on Fearne’s happy place podcast).

They’ve opened up a can of worms and it’s pitiful. They either have some very inept people advising them, or they are ignoring their advice. Not sure which it is.

I do feel sorry for them, but ultimately they have got themselves into this mess by trying to control others.

They’ve lost a lot of credibility lying in court. I can’t help wondering what is the point of their work, when they’ve shown themselves to be master manipulators. That’s not very compassionate is it?

The following are two more excerpts from the emails, the first August 30th and the second November 12th 2018

Can we set up a time to chat? I feel he needs to be back briefed ASAP if there’s any conversation about working with them moving forward."

Would you have some time to talk this afternoon? Would love to debrief a few things, discuss the Omid Scobie book (and their outreach)

Sorry, the “he” in the first excerpt refers to Scobie. I’ll stop quoting now 😂

BananaPB Not being a lawyer I couldn't say about the legal definitions of cooperate/collaborate, but as a layperson they look pretty much the same to me

However since a lot of the media work to the lowest common denominator, perhaps they feel the first is a word their consumers will be more comfortable with?

I will be interested to see if Samantha Markle comments on the briefing about her children. One has to hope that the custody arrangements are not in fact related to her disability

She has admitted that she lied in a sworn statement to the court. It doesn't matter what her motive was , she lied in a sworn statement. If she can lie in those circumstances she can lie anywhere, Schillings must be mad. I'd love to know what was in the text from Harry to TM which has been redacted.

Whether or not they collaborated with Scobie isn't in itself relevant its just background in a way. It's painting a picture of a pair who rather than wanting to keep things private per se ,wanted to control when and how the letter was released. She wrote the letter not because she genuinely felt those things but because it was creating a narrative, a narrative that she needed a paper trail for Either way the whole thing is deeply unedifying.

I don't think it's all Meghan, I think its both of them equally but for different reasons; she is a grafter and knows she needs to carefully curate her image to preserve her future earning power, he is pursuing vendetta against the press.

@Puzzledandpissedoff its i the court papers which have been released so now its a public document, its no longer speculation. Maybe thats why

Could be, Peaseblossum, although I think the detail had already been released when that post was written?

I also agree that both of them are implicated in this, but then some of us never piled the entire blame onto Meghan in the first place, even if she really doesn't help herself sometimes

Slight tangent, but if I were someone who expressed themselves as articulately as Megan does, I couldn't bear Harry's text speak.

I agree that Harry will have known all/most of this but people are taking about Meghan because the evidence in court yesterday was her statement and JK's statement which centred on things she had said or sent. If there's a full trial maybe we'll hear more about Harry.

Utterly vile and they whine about their own privacy being breached.

I think vile and breaching of privacy is a pretty good characterisation of Samantha's behaviour. I despise misogynistic comments (which is one reason I sometimes go to bat for Meghan) but if someone has had a history of multiple contentious relationship breakdowns etc, it does speak to the stability of their character as a whole.

To lose custody of all three of one's children is quite a big deal, even more so where there is more than one dad as it does imply her parenting was extremely poor rather than there was some dispute with one father, a difficult time with one of the children etc. And it also implies that there were issues over an extended period of time. Given that Samantha was regularly popping up to take pot-shots at Meghan, her character and the nature of their past relationship would be important background.

Tbh all this tit for tat is doing nobody any favours but as a purely human response to a difficult situation I can't see anything terrible in how Meghan has behaved here. But of course anything less than saintly behaviour means she'll be torn to shreds.

@derxa

Following the wedding, Meghan penned an emotional letter to her father Who does that in this day and age? The letter was a trap and TM obligingly stepped into it.

This.

What did Thomas Markle even do to warrant the letter in the first place?

The only thing I'm aware of is he was paid to be photographed reading a book on British History.