prince William - earthshot prize

[Samcro]

could not believe it when I saw the advert for it last night. so PW is presenting this thing. the same Prince who flies all over the world.
obviously won't be watching as him and DA lecturing people about climate change is so hypocritical.
(rant over)

I don’t think he will be without support. He does have three children who will presumably be old enough to offer him some support by the time he ascends the throne.

I imagine their children will have their own life concerns which they will require parental support with. Showing sympathy to their father about the trials and tribulations of being King will be low down on their list probably. His cousins will be supportive I am sure, but they won't be in his position. The Queen leaned very heavily on her mother and her sister, and Philip of course. Charles will be dead, and Harry and William will be living very different lives in different countries.I can't see their relationship ever being fully repaired.

@smilesy

I don’t think he will be without support. He does have three children who will presumably be old enough to offer him some support by the time he ascends the throne.

True, but what would they be in their 30's? So now the children don't get that "young adult life" like the Queen did in Malta as a officers wife, William had in Anglesey with Catherine. Nope straight in to full time working royal roles.

The more I think about this the more I thing "fuck I'd hate to be William." Not only am I staring down the barrel of duty, my children will have it all much sooner than planned as the older royals die off, my brother his wife and children are gone. So here I am. Me Catherine and now my children. That's it.

If there's anything I believe is that Princess Ann has very good long sight, and knows how to play the long game when it came to her children and grandchildren.

Of course, it would not be easy, but yes he could abdicate. I know he will have been brainwashed into it, but he could walk if he chose to.
I am reminded of those landed gentries who inherit crumbling castles they can't maintain but feel they must try as it is their duty to keep the ancestral home going. They feel the weight of responsibility, but some do walk.
I think part of being an adult is recognising we have choices. We might decide those choices are too difficult to take. For example many women with tiny kids and a baby would like to leave their marriage, but without support they decide it is just too difficult. That is fine, but we also need to recognise some people do walk away without any support.

Also, I agree about William never looking at Catherine, in fact, they often seem physically very distant. I suspect it is not a good marriage, but Catherine puts on a good show.

I just don’t agree with hat. There are lots and lots of photos of them looking at each other too Iovingly , chatting, sharing a laugh. I think they seem very happy and connected. They’re there to do a job, not put on the PDA. HM and PP were always professional . They didn’t gaze at each other or cling together whilst doing engagements.

Not talking about PDA. But happy couples appear happy together. Their body language towards each other shows. So I dislike both of them, but Andrew and Sarah seem genuinely happy together.

I have never heard such a big pile of steaming crap as some of the nonsense on this thread

No one knows what any of them thinks or feels, if there's no proof of something, saying "I imagine....". Is not a valid argument.

And the Elephant in the room, that this is nothing to do with Earth shot, just an excuse to promote republicanism.

Oh dear 😂🤣🤣

Of course no one knows what any of them thinks or feels, that goes without saying!

A forum is for discussion. All the threads on MN are 'I think this, I feel that, I imagine this, I wonder if this, I predict this will happen etc.'
It's called expressing an opinion.

I always think they look very in tune with each other. We only ever see them when they are "working". I imagine(yep just thinking) they are just like most couple that have been together for a long time.
most of mn is people saying what they "think"

After how things panned out with H&M, I have a feeling that Charlotte and Louis will stay well out of the way. William' support will be from George who will be groomed for the crown. As things stand, it looks like William has accepted the heir is what matters mantra.

From the looks of things, it seems Harry was left to be senior royal, with a prominent role, when someone should have told him that he must do less, and be like his cousins. It would not surprise me if Charlotte and Louis decide from the start to take a back role, possibly go private from the get go.

I never felt that much love and warmth from William towards his wife. I believe she was just the last woman standing. Lots of times William was reported chasing after other girls at university, and it seems he was rejected.

It felt like he just shrugged in the end because KM looks great, has the right temperament, is steadfast and really wanted the job and does not mess it up. She was his best choice really, as there would be no scandal and challenges from her. Most likely she will stick around no matter what.

I do believe stories of his roving eye.

I never felt that much love and warmth from William towards his wife

Oh so you know them personally do you? You’ve been around them enough to feel their lack of warmth 🙄

@rubicscubicle

I never felt that much love and warmth from William towards his wife. I believe she was just the last woman standing. Lots of times William was reported chasing after other girls at university, and it seems he was rejected.

It felt like he just shrugged in the end because KM looks great, has the right temperament, is steadfast and really wanted the job and does not mess it up. She was his best choice really, as there would be no scandal and challenges from her. Most likely she will stick around no matter what.

I do believe stories of his roving eye.

"William rejected by other girls"! When he broke with Kate the daughters of the aristocracy were climbing over each other to get at him. He could have had two heads - wouldn't matter. And he was good looking in his youth

Indeed Badger. And if I came on and wrote “Harry only married Meghan because she was the only one who would say yes” which I stress I using as an example here, I would be flamed. A lot of errant nonsense on here now.
Going back to the theme of the tread, the second Earthshot was shown last night. Haven’t seen it yet but I shall watch it to inform myself later.

Because Kate had her phone hacked more than 150 times when she and William were dating, you can actually go and read the transcripts of his voicemails to her, rubiscubicle, and see that actually he was loving and warm in private.

There’s also the fact that they have been together for 20 years now, married for 10, often do joint appearances together, and while they have never gone in for much public demonstrations of affection, they manage to appear happy and connected, with lots of natural eye and physical contact.

I doin’t know them from Adam, and no-one knows what goes on behind closed doors, but given neither of them are professional actors, it certainly seems more likely that they are happy together than not. Compare them to photos of Charles and Diana when their marriage was not going well, and the difference is marked.

I don't know which heiresses were climbing over each other for William. Maybe some everyday plebs like us.

It was reported that he was besotted with an aristo (possibly Jecca Craig, could be someone else), who did not want to marry him - also apparently via her parents advice. Later, it prompted rumours that KM did not attend an event because she was there.

All I know is that he was rejected by an American named Meghann.

www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a28233764/prince-william-rejected-by-texas-heiress-in-college/

I disagree that william settled. I think him and Kate are well suited and a quick look at google will show lots of nice happy pictures,

No, I don't know them. They just always have an unnaturally large gap between the two of them. Even if they have been married for ages, I am not seeing the same closeness witnessed on say the Obamas, even the Camerons, or Trudeau's for example. Just to name a few.

William was teased by French papers for seeming to always forget Kate. In particular there are the umbrella pics, another one he got off a ship, leaving her drenched, and Harry ran up to her with an umbrella and seemed to say something indicating to KM and - where the French press assumed it was' oy man, you forgot your wife' (well the headlines pretty much said that). And why on earth did he make that joke about her looking like a Christmas tree.

The British press will tell you opposite ofcourse. While they were dissecting his brother, they did not report on KM not wanting to be touched by W.

oh yes massive gap

I am talking about most of their photos. Someone did a montage - they were actually trying to demonstrate how close they were, but when you scrolled down the pics fast, the gap became even more noticeable.

Totally, Samcro. No closeness at all.

William has been brought up to follow his grandmother’s lead. He is actually far more affectionate and loving than Charles or HM in public. Like most people, when you’re doing a job in the public eye, you concentrate on that. Even then, I think the two of them show they have a very close bond.

@rubicscubicle

I am talking about most of their photos. Someone did a montage - they were actually trying to demonstrate how close they were, but when you scrolled down the pics fast, the gap became even more noticeable.

What pleasure does this speculation about someone else's marriage give you? It's petty and nasty.

What pleasure does this speculation about someone else's marriage give you? It's petty and nasty.

Says the poster who posts hundreds of posts predicting doom and gloom on H&M.