prince William - earthshot prize

[Samcro]

could not believe it when I saw the advert for it last night. so PW is presenting this thing. the same Prince who flies all over the world.
obviously won't be watching as him and DA lecturing people about climate change is so hypocritical.
(rant over)

julieca
I'll have a look at Gabon too. It's good to see what people are doing in pursuit of solutions and change rather than more hot air, world leaders talking round tables, and public figures jumping from one issue to the next big issue to make it all about them.
Thank you for sharing it.

@Icenii

It's fine to be a sceptic. But all those pulling this to pieces, what are you doing today to drive change? What actions are you taking to ensure the Earth can sustain future generations? Nothing? At least this is doing something. If you have better ideas, put them into practise.

I'm not sashaying around on helicopters like I'm using uber for a start.

So far, there's not been sanctimonious lecturing or making it all about how awesome and conpassionate William is. I like David Attenborough and he has credibility in the area.

If William starts acting like a prick about it, or trying to make it all about how he is the most caring philanthropic person in the world then he'll attract the same criticism that I have about high profile figures making everything all about them whilst lecturing the public to do more.

That is all I have been seeing William do so far. Lecturing the public to do more and giving us sanctimonious lectures. All the while flying around and sashaying on the red carpet.

The participants even seem to be mentioned as a by the way.

Lola and julieca, I particularly liked the coral re seeding that is using coral that is tolerant to higher temperatures and more acidic seas. I know it is less than ideal dealing with conditions like that, but it is being realistic and dealing with things as they are, not waiting for some perfect conditions that might never happen.

smilesy
Waiting for perfect is a convenient way to kick environmental issues into the long grass. It seems to be the default response to environmental discussions in many places. By ignoring the need for progress and sticking the boot into imperfect projects, it's very easy for people avoid confronting their own actions and the fact that we need to change as a planet.

I'm not sashaying around on helicopters like I'm using uber for a start

I can't comment on the helicopter usage. I dont sit there toting up their journeys. However, they can still support innovation and getting a message out to those who are likely to watch, follow or support these type of things. It's something.

Addressing their own personal carbon footprint is separate. Many people on this thread probably have lower footprints than others, doesn't mean those with the higher footprint should do nothing, or are not allowed to talk about environmental issues.

Really, every single one of us needs to be changing our way of life. Every single consumer needs to change. I'm not jetting around in a helicopter, but I still should be doing far more than I already do. Likely. W&K are the same.

I'm not jetting around in a helicopter, but I still should be doing far more than for W&KI already do. Likely. W&K are the same

There's a big difference between making sure the right plastics go into the right green bin outside the door, and continual helicopter flights

I'll link this again because it got no comments...

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/15/green-royals-saving-the-planet-helicopter-queen-charles-william-climate

I like the fact that the winners AND the finalists are going to be given tailored support to scale up their operations. The partner organisations within the Earthshot project will enable access to expertise, networks and presumably finance that would not be easily accessible otherwise

@Icenii

It's fine to be a sceptic. But all those pulling this to pieces, what are you doing today to drive change? What actions are you taking to ensure the Earth can sustain future generations? Nothing? At least this is doing something. If you have better ideas, put them into practise.

I compost what I can, grow my own salad, recycle, bike to work and use public transport. Part of a local community group who go litter picking to keep local parks clean.

I wear my clothes more than once, maybe I can get into the papers like Kate and be held up as a shining beacon on being sustainable for wearing clothes again.

I cant do anything to my house its financially out of reach to make it more eco friendly.

So yeah I think I do quite a bit thanks.

Yes I also do the small bit I can with limited means - we recycle - rubbish, wear used clothes and pass on, most of our furniture is second hand. But I don't buy second hand that's poor quality just for the sake of it or
for example if it would cost me more to repair if needed because I don't have the warranty etc. So the average families I know do their bit, but I can't get excited about Kate wearing a couple of outfits twice for all to see at a high profile occasion such as yesterday when she has high end designers to pin and tuck her and her families outfits. Not to mention the numerous amount of outfits that are worn only once or twice in most cases anyway. So I agree with posters that there are plenty of celebrities out there with wall to wall house keeper, chefs, cooks cleaners, designers, security etc etc who don't lift a finger on a day to day basis to get to work, food shopping, or manage their homes and families lecturing those of us with far less resources to manage our day to day lives. We would all love to have the resources to live more ethically and well, most of us do our little bit but W&K are no different to the others who lecture the masses.

[quote Roussette]I'm not jetting around in a helicopter, but I still should be doing far more than for W&KI already do. Likely. W&K are the same

There's a big difference between making sure the right plastics go into the right green bin outside the door, and continual helicopter flights

I'll link this again because it got no comments...

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/15/green-royals-saving-the-planet-helicopter-queen-charles-william-climate[/quote]
Thanks @Rousette I read this link after writing my post - yes I agree with her points. I wonder how much it really costs to convert and then run his 2 seater on wine and cheese. - is this an example of what he is doing for the planet that the masses should take note of ? - because in reality it's a show car and how many of us can afford to keep an expensive car that leaves the garage once a month.

I compost what I can, grow my own salad, recycle, bike to work and use public transport. Part of a local community group who go litter picking to keep local parks clean.

And that's great, but if you measure the impact of what you do compared to one of the projects being supported through Earthshot, it's minute, isn't it really? I don't agree with all the helicopter flights particularly but for heaven's sake, this is something positive. And I say that as no great fan of William's.

Generally the poorest people have the smallest carbon footprints and the richest people have the hugest.

Prince William and the Royal Family are HUGE over consumers.

I think it's very positive and the initiatives that I saw on the programme yesterday were great. I'd like to think the ones that didn't win get some exposure and it helps them somehow.

However, it doesn't take away from the fact that the RF have a huge carbon footprint and PC blathering on about his wine and cheese car is totally irrelevant. I bet it's driven twice a year. What about all the royal cars of which there must be a lot.

I think Earthshot is a great project for William to hang his name on, and I'd like to think it will grow and grow, but his recycled green velvet jacket looked a bit snug on him (just a joke, folks )

The velvet jacket and poloneck combination... didn't want to lower the tone of the thread but frankly I wish I could unsee that!

I agree, it was just so out of his norm to me! But bearing in mind I've said before he dresses like a 55 year old Rotarian and I wanted him to up his game, I really musn't complain as I haen't found my style yet either 😂

Wills' outfit put me in mind of Austin Powers. Goldmember...

At least Catherine was no longer dressed like an eighty-year-old, but appropriately for her age.

Yes, she looked good.

@Aspiringmatriarch

The velvet jacket and poloneck combination... didn't want to lower the tone of the thread but frankly I wish I could unsee that!

I liked it. I thought it made him look quite dishy!

Really MrsFin??
He looks to me like a middle-aged man trying to look hot and failing. More middle-aged Milk Tray Man than James Bond.
I mean I wouldn't criticise him for it, he is hardly a style icon. But I suspect you wouldn't think he looked dishy if he was anyone else.

I thought William looked quite dishy as well. Especially when you compare that look to his look in sweatshirts.

It was great program & initiative - I’ve seen them all & I like the way the baton has been handed on.

I thought William looked quite dishy as well

Everyone to their own! (I cant quite move on from Cathy's Austin Powers comment

Fair enough! I'm allergic to polo necks on men so definitely not a winning look for me! I didn't mind the jacket though.

@julieca

Really MrsFin?? He looks to me like a middle-aged man trying to look hot and failing. More middle-aged Milk Tray Man than James Bond. I mean I wouldn't criticise him for it, he is hardly a style icon. But I suspect you wouldn't think he looked dishy if he was anyone else.

It was probably the first, and last, time I will ever say that about William, but yes, I do think he looked rather good.

I also liked him in a Pakistani style tunic he wore when they visited that country several years ago.