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In what capacity are Harry and Meghan visiting New York

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IsabelBeck · 25/09/2021 10:20

They are no longer working members of the Royal Family so have they gone to New York as private citizens?

How do they get to meet with Chelsea Clinton at the WHO offices and UN officials and politicians?

According to the Mail (I know, I know) they had federal protection.

Do Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (as they are styled there) have much clout in the US? Why?

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Washeduponthebeach · 02/10/2021 09:58

In America he’s not a Royal. He’s living in America. He’s not a working member of the family. It’s like Albert of Monaco walking away from his role, going to live in Greece, and deciding to parade around using his title and parentage to curry favour. Whilst lecturing all and sundry on how to live.

Washeduponthebeach · 02/10/2021 09:59

Oh I forgot. Albert would have to write trashy books bemoaning his misery and slagging off his family . Also going on TV to do the same. Still expecting to be treated as a Royal.

Viviennemary · 02/10/2021 10:08

Well summed up Washed.

Roussette · 02/10/2021 10:10

Rousette if you aren’t a Royalist, you can’t surely believe that Harry’s Royal connections make him a special person that we should all listen to just because he’s the grandson of the Queen?

Where have I said that he is 'a special person'? I haven't

I think both him and Meghan have a voice and they are using it. I'm quite happy with that, as are many others.

It might not add up to you, it's perfectly clear to me and other people. They are allowed to speak you know.

Oh dear WashedUp they clearly upset you a lot. Where is the trashy book he's written? Is this the one scheduled for end of next year that some posters seem to have psychic abilities about and have already decided what's in it?

@AnnunciataZ
Exactly!

Roussette · 02/10/2021 10:12

In America he’s not a Royal. He’s living in America. He’s not a working member of the family

I hate to tell you... even if he didn't have a title, everyone would still know who he is.

And the key part of your statement is 'he's living in America' They support themselves so he can do what he wants.

queenofarles · 02/10/2021 10:15

Sarah Ferguson is always scrutinised on here, if MN was around in the late 90s I bet she would have been discussed on a daily basis.

Washeduponthebeach · 02/10/2021 10:33

@Roussette

In America he’s not a Royal. He’s living in America. He’s not a working member of the family

I hate to tell you... even if he didn't have a title, everyone would still know who he is.

And the key part of your statement is 'he's living in America' They support themselves so he can do what he wants.

Of course he can. He’s just a total hypocrite. It’s his choice to be one.
Washeduponthebeach · 02/10/2021 10:35

@Roussette

Rousette if you aren’t a Royalist, you can’t surely believe that Harry’s Royal connections make him a special person that we should all listen to just because he’s the grandson of the Queen?

Where have I said that he is 'a special person'? I haven't

I think both him and Meghan have a voice and they are using it. I'm quite happy with that, as are many others.

It might not add up to you, it's perfectly clear to me and other people. They are allowed to speak you know.

Oh dear WashedUp they clearly upset you a lot. Where is the trashy book he's written? Is this the one scheduled for end of next year that some posters seem to have psychic abilities about and have already decided what's in it?

@AnnunciataZ
Exactly!

I was talking about FF but that was written by Meghan , about both their experiences. Even though she won’t admit the content is hers.
Roussette · 02/10/2021 11:18

Given 'their experiences', good on them for leaving

donquixotedelamancha · 02/10/2021 11:27

And the key part of your statement is 'he's living in America' They support themselves so he can do what he wants.

Well, they parasitise other people now.l

Zuluqueen · 02/10/2021 11:30

@Roussette I agree with most of what you say.

Zuluqueen · 02/10/2021 11:30

@donquixotedelamancha

And the key part of your statement is 'he's living in America' They support themselves so he can do what he wants.

Well, they parasitise other people now.l

🤣🤣🤣
rubicscubicle · 02/10/2021 11:31

@Diverseopinions why are you talking about IP sharing like you are talking about a street drug? You do realise that there are medical regulators.

What H&M said, was not just their opinion, but what has been discussed by scientists and world leaders in WHO meetings.

He does not need to go do a biology degree anymore than William has to go do an environment degree to preach about the climate.

Diverseopinions · 02/10/2021 12:13

Even if a person does have a title, surely it is bad form to use it in everyday life? Using it is underlining a privilege you have.

The reason this is important is that titles in the UK would have been abolished decades ago, if it were not for the fact that the distinction of owning a title has been changed by common consent. Today a title in Britain is seen as a powerless and ceremonial dressing which keeps a tradition alive, for just those traditional purposes. As long as royals are there to serve the community, and only serve the community, we tolerate these titles. Once the titles are deployed to insinuate some private advantage, them we clamour for their removal. This would actually happen - people would say: " Don't misuse the name of our county".

Furthermore, how many lawyers and stock brokers do you know, who at work, would drop into conversation that they are descended from minor aristocracy? None, because they'd be laughed at, or accused of pulling some strings. I once met a family who were descended from shipping merchants after whom a local wharf was named. They didn't go around telling everyone. It would be very bad form to do so.

It's for this reason alone that people infer a mixed message in what Harry is saying. If you are against privilege, you want to rein it back for the next generation, not insist your son gets a prime title and insinuate that there are reprehensible reasons why he has not been given one. To dis an employer in this way would be callous enough, but your own family??? That's why people question what Harry does.

Roussette · 02/10/2021 12:19

Even if a person does have a title, surely it is bad form to use it in everyday life? Using it is underlining a privilege you have

Not sure members of the RF go by the names of Andy, Ed and Liz.... Grin

Serenster · 02/10/2021 12:31

Prince William and Prince Harry were “William Wales” and “Harry Wales” at school, Sandhurst, in the army and (for William) at university and while working as an air ambulance pilot. When not specifically being members of the Royal family, they haven’t used their titles.

Diverseopinions · 02/10/2021 12:34

Clearly the Queen uses her title because she is using it in a work capacity. It would be impossible to imagine a situation in which she would renounce her role and title and go and get an ordinary job, after all these years, but the same principle would apply.

Prince Edward is a working royal and is subject to the rules and regulations which limit the Royals' activity.

But surely it is a very easy matter to recognize the distinction between working royal, subject to all the regulations, and one of royal lineage who has chosen to leave the scope of official activity and to lead a private life? To me it's clear - you are either in or out.

Viviennemary · 02/10/2021 12:41

He should not be using his title to open doors and curry favour in another country. I think he'll be eventually removed from the line of succession along with his heirs. Its the only sensible way forward under the circumstances.

Roussette · 02/10/2021 12:44

Serenster
Yes I know that

Yeah diverse...well SF has been out for decades as an ex wife but still uses hers so where does that leave your argument?
You can't single out just Harry on this, it doesn't work

Diverseopinions · 02/10/2021 12:45

William doesn't really 'preach' about climate.

If it ever got to the point where he was talking at climate conferences more than carrying out his calendar of royal duties, he would be told to make a choice, and stand down as a royal, if he finds climate work more important.

Roussette · 02/10/2021 12:47

Vivienne not in a million years will that happen even if you want it
Because the Q will not cast favourite son adrift and there would be an outcry if that happened and PA is left with all his titles.
Doing so would open up a can of worms

Roussette · 02/10/2021 12:50

Who on earth is going to tell William to stand down?!
As if!
I don't understand that post at all !

AnnunciataZ · 02/10/2021 12:50

If only 'working royals' should use titles then should Beatrice, Eugenie, Prince Michael of Kent and the Wessex children stop using theirs too?

rubicscubicle · 02/10/2021 12:51

If William does not preach, then neither does Harry.

rubicscubicle · 02/10/2021 12:53

@AnnunciataZ

If only 'working royals' should use titles then should Beatrice, Eugenie, Prince Michael of Kent and the Wessex children stop using theirs too?
Correct

And what about all those inherited titles all over the place.

If criminals like Marlborough and Strathmore ( and I'm sure there are others) are using it just fine, then there is no way it will be removed from Harry.