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The royal family

The "Royal Racist"

999 replies

GrimDamnFanjo · 26/08/2021 15:34

The discussion is still rumbling on...
Over on the Daily Mail site there's yet another article about whether H&M will name names.
This I found was interestingly written as it only seems to mention one other family member...

OP posts:
derxa · 06/09/2021 20:55

So nice for you to say she should keep quiet She has every right to speak on issues she feels strongly about. That is the nature of free speech. However she doesn't add anything new to discourse on the subject.

Serenster · 06/09/2021 20:57

I don’t recall Meghan making a statement in support of Afghan women? She and Harry issued a general statement about the pain the situation in Afghanistan, Haiti and the global healthcare crisis was causing them and others, but that didn’t mention any groups of any of those people in particular. Can you point em to her statement, please?

Why2why · 06/09/2021 21:01

@derxa

So nice for you to say she should keep quiet She has every right to speak on issues she feels strongly about. That is the nature of free speech. However she doesn't add anything new to discourse on the subject.
Oh what an incredible criterion you set for Meghan. Do you expect that of all others or just Meghan?

What about the news reporter, what new was she adding that came completely from her?

That’s it, the woman of colour must adhere to a much higher threshold for her to speak or be visible.

myheartskippedabeat · 06/09/2021 21:01

Oh god not this again how boring

PreparationPreparationPrep · 06/09/2021 21:06

@derxa

So nice for you to say she should keep quiet She has every right to speak on issues she feels strongly about. That is the nature of free speech. However she doesn't add anything new to discourse on the subject.
But there is no denying that what she does have is a huge platform - and her statement has reached people who may not have taken interest in these subjects. Look at the number on this thread who dislike her but still have managed to see or hear enough to make a point of joining a thread. Let alone those who are interested. Is that not a good thing?
Aspiringmatriarch · 06/09/2021 21:07

Serenster I think derxa is objecting to the joint statement from Harry and Meghan about the situation in Afghanistan. It's the only thing I can think of. Somehow it's put her nose out of joint. 🤷‍♀️

Viviennemary · 06/09/2021 21:14

A thought not shared by everyone. In fact her popularity is at an all time low according to an opinion poll. Must all be haters. Hmm

Serenster · 06/09/2021 21:15

Those are great things for Prince Harry to be involved in, @why2why. Your insistence at denigrating anything and everything that Prince William has achieved just makes you look churlish, though.

William has been a big supporter of the Tusk charity over the years and has taken part in a number of missions to try to prevent wildlife crime. He has used an official visit to China to campaign against the trade in ivory. He is a longstanding supporter of organisations working to combat homelessness, and has been patron of Centrepoint for more than 15 years now, and recently taken on another homeless charity, The Passage. He literally saved people’s lives while working for the Air Ambulance.

His Royal foundation donated £1.8m to frontline health staff last year. It also supports He has launched the Earthshot prize to look for solutions to climate change, and persuaded some of the leading global corporates and celebrities to support it. In his role as patron of BAFTA he has spoken about the need for the body to recognise a more diverse range of professionals. As President of the FA he has often spoken out about tackling racism. He has been asked by the Foreign Office to undertake some sensitive diplomatic visits, including to Israel and Palestine.

You may of course have many more accomplishments under your belt, and feel entitled to look down on someone else who has clearly worked hard and achieved a lot. There will be plenty of others however who are think that William has done quite a bit with the cards he has been dealt in life.

StormzyinaTCup · 06/09/2021 21:16

Oh what a fantastic accomplishment for a 40 year old man. GCSEs and A Levels put to great use helping with the air ambulance for a handful of years. Really great accomplishment compared to a 36 year old man having over the years set up a charity that help lots of young people in Africa, a world class athletic event for injured service men, serving in the army in Afghanistan.

What a horrible paragraph. Am just thinking how bitter a person must have to be to write that. As you said earlier, it's not a bloody competition, they have both achieved things to their credit. ccccccccccccccccc

PreparationPreparationPrep · 06/09/2021 21:18

@Serenster

I don’t recall Meghan making a statement in support of Afghan women? She and Harry issued a general statement about the pain the situation in Afghanistan, Haiti and the global healthcare crisis was causing them and others, but that didn’t mention any groups of any of those people in particular. Can you point em to her statement, please?
I'm going by the posts here I read she had made a statement and was not qualified to do so as she is not AJ or L? So it wasn't specific to Afghan women it was in support of all women and she is being slated for that ? My previous post still stands just replace with "issued a statement in support of women of ........etc.
Zuluqueen · 06/09/2021 21:18

Every time I read Meghan& Harry’s the reads on MN I get so glad for her that she has gone home. I’m A British biracial nobody & even I know it can be tough out here & people will deny, defend & promote those who look like them at one’s expense. Pfft Charles’s right hand man has been found to be corrupt and this is not the first time yet the racism denial thread on MN is still going.
Oh I don’t feel or need to start a thread about a thread about latest Royal scandal concerning working royals.

Aspiringmatriarch · 06/09/2021 21:20

@Serenster very good post and nice to see some balance. I'm not William's biggest fan (couldn't say why really) but it was good to read what he's done over the years and makes me feel a bit more positive about him.

StormzyinaTCup · 06/09/2021 21:21

Apologies for all the 'c's at the end, was just about to finish and press post and got hit square in the face by a massive daddy long legs😮😮

PreparationPreparationPrep · 06/09/2021 21:21

@myheartskippedabeat

Oh god not this again how boring
Not what again ?
Aspiringmatriarch · 06/09/2021 21:24

Although tbf he and Catherine do have a reputation for being a bit lacklustre and not actually doing many engagements. I'm not sure how fair that is but I guess they've done a few positive things over the years, at least.

Zuluqueen · 06/09/2021 21:24

@Viviennemary

A thought not shared by everyone. In fact her popularity is at an all time low according to an opinion poll. Must all be haters. Hmm
🤣🤣🤣🤣. In the end it’s all about how Meghan is hated here isn’t it. Poor woman, she has been gone for a while yet still loathed like she has done so much wrong. It’s good that’s she is American & is woke to her ancestors struggles so she knows she has to be strong to survive the kind of hate she gets just for existing.
smilesy · 06/09/2021 21:25

So it wasn't specific to Afghan women it was in support of all women and she is being slated for that ?

I think this is a case of Chinese Whispers. Someone said they liked the statement she had made in support of Afghan women

Serenster · 06/09/2021 21:28

@PreparationPreparationPrep I am just a bit bemused reading several pots on here all saying Meghan was advocating for the rights of women in Afghanistan when so far as I know she hasn’t at all?

She and Harry issued a joint statement - I’ve copied it below. I’ve bolded the only bit that actually directly related to Afghanistan. They then go on to say “don’t feel powerless - here’s how you can respond” in relation to the various issues they raise.

“The world is exceptionally fragile right now.

As we all feel the many layers of pain due to the situation in Afghanistan, we are left speechless. As we all watch the growing humanitarian disaster in Haiti, snd the threat of it worsening after last weekend’s earthquake, we are left heartbroken. And as we all witness the continuing global health crisis, exacerbated by the new variants and constant misinformation, we are left scared.

When any person or community suffers, a piece of each of us does so with them, whether we realise it or not. And though we are not meant to live in a state of suffering, we are as a people, being conditioned to accept it. It’s easy to find ourselves feeling powerless, but we can put our values into action - together.

To start, we encourage you to join us in supporting a number of organisations doing critical work. We also urge those in positions of global influence to rapidly advance the humanitarian dialogues that are expected to take place this fall at multilateral gatherings such as the U.N. General Assembly and the Leader’s Summit.

As an international community, it is the decisions we make now - to alleviate suffering among those we know and those we may never meet - that will prove our humanity.”

Why2why · 06/09/2021 21:29

@StormzyinaTCup

Oh what a fantastic accomplishment for a 40 year old man. GCSEs and A Levels put to great use helping with the air ambulance for a handful of years. Really great accomplishment compared to a 36 year old man having over the years set up a charity that help lots of young people in Africa, a world class athletic event for injured service men, serving in the army in Afghanistan.

What a horrible paragraph. Am just thinking how bitter a person must have to be to write that. As you said earlier, it's not a bloody competition, they have both achieved things to their credit. ccccccccccccccccc

Lending voices to the same cause is not a competition. Putting William out there as some accomplished 40 year old because of his A levels and GCSEs need to be brought into perspective, unless you think it’s “accomplishments” speak to a particular cause?

You say not a competition but denigrated Harry’s exam results?

William had achieved very little given his privileged position. Certainly not someone who comes across as having a passion for helping the disadvantaged of this world.

smilesy · 06/09/2021 21:29

Bum. Posted too soon. Try again
Someone said they liked the statement she made in support of Afghan women, someone else said they didn’t think she was as qualified as others to speak on it. In fact the statement was a comment on the Afghan situation in general together with Haiti and Covid vaccines. It only mentions Afghan (or indeed any) women on the Archewell website where they provide a link to a charity that supports Afghan women. Hope that clears it up a bit.

smilesy · 06/09/2021 21:30

@Serenster. Cross post after I posted prematurely 🤣

Why2why · 06/09/2021 21:33

And William speaking out on racism Grin. Maybe he should try more than speaking out and calling on this organisation and that organisation to do better. Sometimes setting an example is the lost powerful way to “speak out”

Serenster · 06/09/2021 21:39

@smilesy - in an unexpected turn of events , it seems Meghan’s actually getting a positive spin for something she didn’t do, then Grin.

The more who speak up for women in Afghanistan, the better, as far as I am concerned. I just couldn’t recall it happening!

@Why2why - I am perplexed by your responses given you were the one who started directly comparing William and Harry’s achievements. I was just pointing out how biased you were being - I quite deliberately didn’t say anything negative about Harry.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 06/09/2021 21:42

@Serenster @smilesy - in an unexpected turn of events , it seems Meghan’s actually getting a positive spin for something she didn’t do, then .

Or she is being slated for something she didn't do. Depends which way you look at it Smile?

Aspiringmatriarch · 06/09/2021 21:43

I think she's achieved the impossible and is being criticised for doing what she didn't do, and for not doing what she did.

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