Harry and Meghan statement on Afghanistan

[Mummyoflittledragon]

“The world is exceptionally fragile right now.
As we all feel the many layers of pain due to the situation in Afghanistan, we are left speechless.
As we all watch the growing humanitarian disaster in Haiti, snd the threat of it worsening after last weekend’s earthquake, we are left heartbroken.
And as we all witness the continuing global health crisis, exacerbated by the new variants and constant misinformation, we are left scared.
When any person or community suffers, a piece of each of us does so with them, whether we realise it or not. And though we are not meant to live in a state of suffering, we are as a people, being conditioned to accept it. It’s easy to find ourselves feeling powerless, but we can put our values into action - together.
To start, we encourage you to join us in supporting a number of organisations doing critical work. We also urge those in positions of global influence to rapidly advance the humanitarian dialogues that are expected to take place this fall at multilateral gatherings such as the U.N. General Assembly and the Leader’s Summit.
As an international community, it is the decisions we make now - to alleviate suffering among those we know and those we may never meet - that will prove our humanity.”

• THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF SUFFOLK

H&M are being criticised for making this about them and for not calling out Biden, notably the FLOTUS is report as being a personal friend of H.

What do mumsnetters think?

Given he served there abs his connections with other veterans I get why he felt the need to speak. It would have been remiss if him not to really.

The style of it is a matter of taste, I get this will probably reach some parts of the US public fairly effectively. Not all of them obviously, but the ones who are likely to be much bothered about Afghanistan pretty likely it’ll speak to them.

I think any reasonable person (and Judge) would agree that a book stating that there had been no "accountability" by the RF is fair to be interpreted as "reigniting a rift".

If they wish to keep putting their narrative out there then it is open to be questioned and interpreted and ridiculed.

The ongoing battle with lawyers being used at every opportunity etc to insist H&M's point of view is the only valid point of view is akin to the mad ramblings during the final days of any tinpot dictator. Weird.

“But their legal team at Schillings told MailOnline today that it was false and defamatory to claim the couple have 'reignited a rift' with the Queen - or to suggest or imply that they have made any statements to that effect.

Their lawyers insisted there were no new developments on the topic and that the claims were from the authors of the book, Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand, who do not speak for the Sussexes and rely on unnamed sources.”

'Given he served there abs his connections with other veterans I get why he felt the need to speak. It would have been remiss if him not to really.'

@PhoenixFreesias he already had as has been linked repeatedly on this thread. He released a joint statement with the Invictus foundation.

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Wasn't it established during the DM case about the letter that they had contributed to the book?

@StarryStarrySocks

🙄 Why do they feel the need to make a statement in this? Do they realise that saying nothing is an option?

Agree

Yes they had, so it's fair to assume that people will think that he has gained information from them, maybe it's OS who needs suing then and not the newspapers.

@hangonamo

I do wonder if they genuinely thought they were bigger than the brand.

I think this is right. I remember early on (pre flounce but post wedding), they said they had single handedly modernised the monarchy and that the RF didn't understand how to harness their value or something. I thought, ooh these two really are quite deluded, and it's not going to end well 👀

Which interview did they say this?

Or did you read this 'fact' from some bottom feeder.

@CauliflowerCheese30

Yes they had, so it's fair to assume that people will think that he has gained information from them, maybe it's OS who needs suing then and not the newspapers.

MM's lawyers said OS wrote his own book without the Sussexes. So did OS himself as he said he collected info from various sources.

The judge said, OS is receiving info from the Sussex team as he had reported something that was not readily publicly available. The legal team said, the Sussexes told their team to deny something in worry that it would be spread around as fact. If anyone (like say Camilla T or Angela ) had actually been searching for facts from the Sussex team, they would also be classed as 'collaborating'.

Hope that's clear.

Mummy194
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-are-modernisers-in-royal-family-d7cxct5hg

Lots of other media outlets saying the same thing so not exactly a bottom feeder

@CauliflowerCheese30

Yes they had, so it's fair to assume that people will think that he has gained information from them, maybe it's OS who needs suing then and not the newspapers.

good point Caulicheese - they'll need to find a new PR person though - or what was it "friend" I think he's been known as lately.

@hangonamo

Wasn't it established during the DM case about the letter that they had contributed to the book?

Yes, that was my understanding too - he got promoted to being referred to as "friend" in the press after that also.

So Mummy194 - so you realise you are saying that H&M should be suing OS not the newspapers. Bit of a conundrum.

You always know when OS is cross - he switches off his comments under his tweets !!
His latest one is a bit gobbledygook.

@Oldbutstillgotit

Mummy194 www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-are-modernisers-in-royal-family-d7cxct5hg

Lots of other media outlets saying the same thing so not exactly a bottom feeder

Could not read the whole article as it's behind a paywall.

Lots of media outlets usually means various papers all quoting one reporter or 'expect' who is quoting a 'source' with these two. Eg, I have seen about 10 articles quoting Angela L about a speculation she had made and stating it as fact.

[quote Cacacoisfarraige]@CauliflowerCheese30

But from the ‘epilogue’ - mustn’t call them extra chapters or he’ll get mad, Omid should contact Mills and Boon, but judging by the terrible prose perhaps MM wrote them herself and sent them over. The lawyers could say ‘they didn’t speak’ and it would be technically true (Again)[/quote]
I've already been told off for this you know!!

It's safe to assume that everything Omid Scobie says comes straight from H & M, they were interviewed for his book and have never denied or spoken out against any claims he's made. They really don't stand for people making false statements about them but have never challenged a word he's said. When he talks about them I assume it's scripted by them.

The immediate visceral response I had was one giant eye roll and 🤢.

I mean can't they just write something more factual and professional than all this flowery I'm "heartbroken"....heartbroken really?

Or are you concerned and have great empathy for those in Afghanistan and understanding of their plight.

Heartbroken ..what are you 13 and just found out Justin Bieber is married.

[quote Roussette]@Mummyoflittledragon

I have said time and time again on these threads that they are a couple of twats at times, that they do themselves no favours, that I think that probably the OW interview was a mistake but I think they have been treated unfairly in many way.

Yet you admonish me like I'm a child...'adults should admit when they make a mistake'. Oh dear.
I have nothing to admit to. I don't call it 'whining'.

I have a view that Charles's long list of criticism of his upbringing, (parents were emotionally distant, his father hectored him and was harsh, his mother distant) is no different to Harry and what he felt about Charles parenting him.
Others disagree. Fine. That's what I think.

@Zuluqueen
I appreciate that.

As usual... it gets personal and rude. I don't see other posters having to continually explain why they are here, who they are or why they have a certain point of view,
hey ho I'm used to it.[/quote]
Personally I haven’t seen you say they’re twats, who do themselves no favour. I’m actually pleasantly surprised you feel that way as I’ve not ever got that vibe from you before.

As for admonishing you, I wasn’t at all, I was talking about H&M admitting their mistakes. Definitely not you.

I appreciate and can see you’ve been / felt attacked on this thread but that wasn’t from me. I actually felt much the same way over the sarcastic comments and accusations from you and other posters. So perhaps we can agree to disagree on certain things and ask each other for clarification in future rather than presume?

summercupcake - very, very good point.

We know H&M threaten left, right and centre so for OS to never have been threatened with legal action regarding his book and the contents makes it laughably obvious.

@ summercupcake

I think that is a reasonable assumption.