Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

Harry and Meghan statement on Afghanistan

845 replies

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/08/2021 18:42

“The world is exceptionally fragile right now.
As we all feel the many layers of pain due to the situation in Afghanistan, we are left speechless.
As we all watch the growing humanitarian disaster in Haiti, snd the threat of it worsening after last weekend’s earthquake, we are left heartbroken.
And as we all witness the continuing global health crisis, exacerbated by the new variants and constant misinformation, we are left scared.
When any person or community suffers, a piece of each of us does so with them, whether we realise it or not. And though we are not meant to live in a state of suffering, we are as a people, being conditioned to accept it. It’s easy to find ourselves feeling powerless, but we can put our values into action - together.
To start, we encourage you to join us in supporting a number of organisations doing critical work. We also urge those in positions of global influence to rapidly advance the humanitarian dialogues that are expected to take place this fall at multilateral gatherings such as the U.N. General Assembly and the Leader’s Summit.
As an international community, it is the decisions we make now - to alleviate suffering among those we know and those we may never meet - that will prove our humanity.”

  • THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF SUFFOLK

H&M are being criticised for making this about them and for not calling out Biden, notably the FLOTUS is report as being a personal friend of H.

What do mumsnetters think?

OP posts:
Cacacoisfarraige · 19/08/2021 16:02

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Mummy194 · 19/08/2021 16:04

@Marmaladeagain

So Mummy194 - so you realise you are saying that H&M should be suing OS not the newspapers. Bit of a conundrum.
Why on earth would they sue OS when they did not sue LCC, AL and about 6 other authors, never mind the thousands upon thousands or articles written about them?

Btw, good on OS for making money out of writing positive fluff about them, when others make money out of spiteful vitriol. I hope his book gets to be a movie and he makes more money.

Last year, a media analyst said they made the DM at least 5M revenue and that was a very conservative amount.

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/08/2021 16:08

@Marmaladeagain

So Mummy194 - so you realise you are saying that H&M should be suing OS not the newspapers. Bit of a conundrum.
That’s never going to happen….

Perhaps if the possible Netflix collaboration between Kate and Meghan happens this could all settle? I really don’t see right now how anything can be resolved until Meghan and Harry decide they will stop speaking out once and for all.

OP posts:
Mummy194 · 19/08/2021 16:09

@summercupcake

It's safe to assume that everything Omid Scobie says comes straight from H & M, they were interviewed for his book and have never denied or spoken out against any claims he's made. They really don't stand for people making false statements about them but have never challenged a word he's said. When he talks about them I assume it's scripted by them.
This is not strictly true as their lawyer disputed in court that what OS writes is not always true - OS did cover himself by stating that he got his info from others. One of them was something about their trip to Africa, I think.

They never disputed anything that LCC and others wrote either, yet, by your logic, do you think they feed her too? Are her friend?

Marmaladeagain · 19/08/2021 16:10

So OS is safe - despite him being the one saying that the RF had not taken ownership/accountability of H&M's complaints.

As we say OS is clearly their very close "friend" and he did also say that he refers to Harry as "Harry" yesterday. So the trouble with suing people is you highlight where the truth is.

They have nowhere to go with the legal threats on this when it is OS that has said something and the newspapers report it. Making themselves look plain daft (again).

Cacacoisfarraige · 19/08/2021 16:21

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SugarCaneHarvest · 19/08/2021 16:22

OS is totally their mouth piece - he announced their 'era of visibility' where do you think he got that from? If he doesn't get it straight from MM it is straight from her team. It goes to OS then on to People magazine.

I reckon, starting September we will see a lot more of the Markles - they will have a full itinerary of events and projects to see them through to Christmas.

SugarCaneHarvest · 19/08/2021 16:24

And right on cue OS announces Harry will be hosting a Sentebale Polo cup in Colorado...

Cacacoisfarraige · 19/08/2021 16:25

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Mummy194 · 19/08/2021 16:31

All it proves is that OS actually does go out to the Sussex team to ask for info instead of making everything up as he goes along like other RRs.

His book however, was clearly spiced up, for fluff and to make it more interesting than every other line stating ' the friend said'.

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/08/2021 16:53

@Cacacoisfarraige
I thought this the first time the Netflix collaboration was reported. But it seems to be in the media again and I think perhaps I’m mistaken?

OP posts:
Mummy194 · 19/08/2021 16:55

@SugarCaneHarvest

And right on cue OS announces Harry will be hosting a Sentebale Polo cup in Colorado...
The report about the polo match and that Harry will be donating 1.5M came from Sentebale, not the Sussex team as you are trying to imply.
Harry and Meghan statement on Afghanistan
Cacacoisfarraige · 19/08/2021 17:01

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Marmaladeagain · 19/08/2021 17:02

So: H&M have friends that ARE permitted to speak to the press.

M's family are not permitted (by H&M) to speak to the press although conversely it's considered fine and dandy for H&M to speak to the press about H's family.

If OS had put a quote in from a "non-permitted-person-to-speak-to-press" or someone form M's family then that would be not good.

Trouble is, no Judge would say that H&M can expect a right to prevent speculation on their actions any longer since H&M broke their own right to privacy by going on worldwide TV repeating private conversations etc.

Did none of the hotshot lawyers tell H&M that back then? Instead of controlling the narrative H&M let the narrative out of the bag for all to have an opinion on.

Cacacoisfarraige · 19/08/2021 17:03

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Marmaladeagain · 19/08/2021 17:06

Depends where donations comes from - if it comes from a Foundation then it is an absolute legal requirement to give 5% away each year to charities to fulfil the obligation otherwise suddenly the whole 100% would be liable for taxation.

Foundations are tax planning for wealthy people in the US - all the wealth planners recommend considering a Foundation for the very wealthy as efficient tax planning. It means 95% isn't liable for tax.

If it's out of his inheritance from his mum then that's another matter, but I don't think it will be will it?

hangonamo · 19/08/2021 17:20

*Which interview did they say this?

Or did you read this 'fact' from some bottom feeder.*

It was widely reported and never disputed by them or indeed the RF, which they were part of at the time. (It was before the days of the 'our truth' type interviews, so at that point they tended to release info from 'sources close to'.) I think I read it in The Times, which quoted 'Harry's camp'. Not sure if that counts as a bottom feeder.

hangonamo · 19/08/2021 17:22

*The judge said, OS is receiving info from the Sussex team as he had reported something that was not readily publicly available. The legal team said, the Sussexes told their team to deny something in worry that it would be spread around as fact. If anyone (like say Camilla T or Angela ) had actually been searching for facts from the Sussex team, they would also be classed as 'collaborating'.

Hope that's clear.*

The first sentence is, but not the rest.

memberofthewedding · 19/08/2021 17:31

Speaking of soldiers the ones I feel sorry for are those who are filtering the crowds at the airport to allow applicants into the first of many checks. These men are not trained diplomats or administrative officers but they are having to go through all the paperwork to decide who goes to the next stage and who gets rejected. This must be gut wrenching work. There must be hundreds of Afghans (with their families) with papers to show they worked as translators, etc for the British. As if that were not traumatic enough there are all these randoms trying to sneak through as well and making it more difficult to deal with genuine applicants.

Cacacoisfarraige · 19/08/2021 17:40

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

hangonamo · 19/08/2021 17:54

I hope his book gets to be a movie

😂😂

Oldbutstillgotit · 19/08/2021 17:55

Mummy194

SugarCaneHarvest
And right on cue OS announces Harry will be hosting a Sentebale Polo cup in Colorado...

The report about the polo match and that Harry will be donating 1.5M came from Sentebale, not the Sussex team as you are trying to imply.

That’s not quite what Harry’s own statement said . Once again …..semantics .

Cacacoisfarraige · 19/08/2021 18:13

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Zuluqueen · 19/08/2021 18:17

Great that Harry is announcing a donation to Sentebale. I really love his work with this charity, Lesotho, Eswatini, Botswana are places close to my heart.

His statement issued via Invictus was great. The other one via their website was sugary / flowery and didn’t connect with me so meh. Good they included worthwhile charities at the bottom but otherwise the statement was not good . As for Omid, to me he is just like the rest of the so called royal experts always grifting, they gotta make their money somehow and these two are the gift that’s keeps giving.

ancientgran · 19/08/2021 18:32

@Cacacoisfarraige

I was just looking at Sentebale financials

They raised 1.944m from events but these events cost 1.435m to stage in 2019

2020 was clearly much lower

What type of events are these that they run (I can’t see mention in their annual report

So did they end up with roughly half a million after expenses or 1.944m after expenses. Seems a bit ridiculous if they are spending nearly three quarters of what they raise, wonder where it goes?