Harry and Meghan statement on Afghanistan

[Mummyoflittledragon]

“The world is exceptionally fragile right now.
As we all feel the many layers of pain due to the situation in Afghanistan, we are left speechless.
As we all watch the growing humanitarian disaster in Haiti, snd the threat of it worsening after last weekend’s earthquake, we are left heartbroken.
And as we all witness the continuing global health crisis, exacerbated by the new variants and constant misinformation, we are left scared.
When any person or community suffers, a piece of each of us does so with them, whether we realise it or not. And though we are not meant to live in a state of suffering, we are as a people, being conditioned to accept it. It’s easy to find ourselves feeling powerless, but we can put our values into action - together.
To start, we encourage you to join us in supporting a number of organisations doing critical work. We also urge those in positions of global influence to rapidly advance the humanitarian dialogues that are expected to take place this fall at multilateral gatherings such as the U.N. General Assembly and the Leader’s Summit.
As an international community, it is the decisions we make now - to alleviate suffering among those we know and those we may never meet - that will prove our humanity.”

• THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF SUFFOLK

H&M are being criticised for making this about them and for not calling out Biden, notably the FLOTUS is report as being a personal friend of H.

What do mumsnetters think?

The pair of them get on my wick!

Come on @Zuluqueen

It’s really not nice to pick on a poster like this.She has been bullied & followed around on & off MN and before. It was really disturbing and scary to witness.

Noticing that the same poster will always comment on threads about one specific couple, and comment multiple times, (sometimes their comments take up a third of all those posted) and being quite amused by it is not bullying. Some of the defences they have (such as calling the word “plonker” offensive abuse) are very memorable and over the top.

It's really, really not bullying 😂

@Mummyoflittledragon

I have said time and time again on these threads that they are a couple of twats at times, that they do themselves no favours, that I think that probably the OW interview was a mistake but I think they have been treated unfairly in many way.

Yet you admonish me like I'm a child...'adults should admit when they make a mistake'. Oh dear.
I have nothing to admit to. I don't call it 'whining'.

I have a view that Charles's long list of criticism of his upbringing, (parents were emotionally distant, his father hectored him and was harsh, his mother distant) is no different to Harry and what he felt about Charles parenting him.
Others disagree. Fine. That's what I think.

@Zuluqueen
I appreciate that.

As usual... it gets personal and rude. I don't see other posters having to continually explain why they are here, who they are or why they have a certain point of view,
hey ho I'm used to it.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

Are you referring to me there?

Hard to tell.
If so, I have never complained about the word 'plonker' as being abuse, so please correct that

'An Era of Visibility' sounds vaguely threatening doesn't it. Just when you thought it was safe to get back in the water...

The RF must be thinking WTF does that mean.

Will be immensely entertaining.

[quote Roussette]@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

Are you referring to me there?

Hard to tell.
If so, I have never complained about the word 'plonker' as being abuse, so please correct that[/quote]
I’m not sure if this is allowed to be posted, it can always be deleted, but on this thread you listed all the words which had been used to abuse Harry. You went back to list “plonker”
As I said, it was very memorable.

Is Meghan on here?.................................................................

@callmeadoctor

Is Meghan on here?.................................................................

It certainly seems like it

Ok fair enough. But please... it was at the end of a long list of awful insults and followed by an exclamation mark. So obviously not said seriously.
But of course... you will dispute that.

Not really sure you are allowed to link other posters' posts but you have proved your point and I accept it.

Is Meghan on here?

Is she?

Is she indeed

i see the bullies are out in force. it seems to be the norm on these threads to attack someone who doesn't rip H&M apart.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

Gosh. Just gone and looked at my post and the context. It was a lighthearted comment and I did not call the word 'plonker' ... offensive abuse. I've read it.. and your responses saying I said it was 'offensive abuse'.
You are making it all up.
Maybe stop pouring over my posts for the sake of your sanity.

'i see the bullies are out in force. it seems to be the norm on these threads to attack someone who doesn't rip H&M apart.'

Disagreeing is not 'bullying', even if mild derision is included. We all experience it. For example I have been very vocal on many covid threads particularly about mask refusers and often get 'oh here comes Janiie lecturing people' or worse. I report abusive comments from rabid reddit trolls but that is the nature of a chat forum, either name change (and why should we, plus I can take on anyone debate wise as I'm always right ), or accept if you persistently post on specific topics you will be noticed. If it gets unpleasant report it but stop taking it personally.

@callmeadoctor

Is Meghan on here?.................................................................

Or someone linked to her team? Good question

[quote Roussette]@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

Gosh. Just gone and looked at my post and the context. It was a lighthearted comment and I did not call the word 'plonker' ... offensive abuse. I've read it.. and your responses saying I said it was 'offensive abuse'.
You are making it all up.
Maybe stop pouring over my posts for the sake of your sanity.[/quote]
I’m sorry @Roussette but I disagree.
You were talking about how much abuse they receive, you listed the words you took exception to on that thread and then listed plonker.
I accept your word that you meant it to be lighthearted but to me, it didn’t read that way and followed on from your over the top defence of H&M.

I don't always agree with @Roussette but I really don't like to see this pile on. She is entitled to her views and expresses them without being offensive or nasty to other posters. This is starting to feel very vicious and nasty.

@SaltySheepdog

Would have been better to say ‘our thoughts are with Afghanistan’s who are fighting for their lives right now having seen friends and family die. We can make a very real difference to people’s lives by donating to xx and xx. This charity supports by doing xxx and xx

Exactly.That would have been absolutely fine. Again it is their pretentious wording 'we all feel/ we all witness/ we are scared' melodramatic blurb.

As a pp said maybe the Americans lap this stuff up, who knows.

@SugarCaneHarvest

'An Era of Visibility' sounds vaguely threatening doesn't it. Just when you thought it was safe to get back in the water...

The RF must be thinking WTF does that mean.

Will be immensely entertaining.

Agree - they probably did work hard on that phrase - not too obvious still an underlying message. That advice must be worth lots of money (which could alternatively go to help Afghan refugees instead of paying for this drivel). Same for the Hermes throw or the Loubutin shoes.... 🙄 They must be surrounded by yes people too, it seems

@SugarCaneHarvest

I don't always agree with *@Roussette* but I really don't like to see this pile on. She is entitled to her views and expresses them without being offensive or nasty to other posters. This is starting to feel very vicious and nasty.

Agree we are all entitled to our views - not sure what is nasty about it, but some people think like that to change something they don't like.

'I don't always agree with Roussette but I really don't like to see this pile on. She is entitled to her views and expresses them without being offensive or nasty to other posters'

Totally agree. Debate the points don't target posters. This thread will go poof shortly and once again many reasonable and absolutely correct observations about the grasping sussexes will vanish as it will be labelled NITS.

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

I did not use the word 'abuse'. I have read and re-read it.
The word abuse was not used, except by you
So you can disagree all you like but you were the one who jumped in after the lightehearted plonker comment... and said... "plonker! What horrific abuse!"
Then you attributed that to me.

I just think it is really really unfair to go and search my posts from weeks ago and then say I said something that I did not. I wouldn't dream of looking back at what you post and linking a sentence from back then and making up an untruth.

I don't know you, never seen your name before, you are entitled to your opinions as am I. Can't we post on here without this sort of stuff?

well I assume attacking a poster and making PA'S is NITS.
IMO it is bullying.
its a constant on these threads.
maybe ask for a separate topic, where only people who dislike H&M can post,

janiie
Thank you, I appreciate that. Trying my best to not 'poof' the thread, but when someone literally lies about what I've said, I can't help but correct it.

[quote Roussette]@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

I did not use the word 'abuse'. I have read and re-read it.
The word abuse was not used, except by you
So you can disagree all you like but you were the one who jumped in after the lightehearted plonker comment... and said... "plonker! What horrific abuse!"
Then you attributed that to me.

I just think it is really really unfair to go and search my posts from weeks ago and then say I said something that I did not. I wouldn't dream of looking back at what you post and linking a sentence from back then and making up an untruth.

I don't know you, never seen your name before, you are entitled to your opinions as am I. Can't we post on here without this sort of stuff?[/quote]
To be fair @Roussette, you stated that I was lying about something which I then went back to find to prove that I wasn’t.
It may be open to interpretation but that is how I interpreted it. You did use the word “abuse” on that thread to describe words such as “clown” and “jester” but if I go back to find and prove that, I will be “unfairly searching through posts from weeks ago” so I’m not sure where I can go with this conversation.