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The royal family

Prince Harry’s Memoirs to be published.

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Madasahattersteaparty1749 · 19/07/2021 18:51

Blurb from publisher.

In an intimate and heartfelt memoir from one of the most fascinating and influential global figures of our time, Prince Harry will share, for the very first time, the definitive account of the experiences, adventures, losses, and life lessons that have helped shape him.

Covering his lifetime in the public eye from childhood to the present day, including his dedication to service, the military duty that twice took him to the frontlines of Afghanistan, and the joy he has found in being a husband and father, Prince Harry will offer an honest and captivating personal portrait, on that shows readers that behind everything they think they know lies an inspiring, courageous and uplifting human story.'

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FakeColinCaterpillar · 21/07/2021 14:29

I’m not sure if W&H adult relationship with their mother would be as perfect as they make it out to be.
They were away at school, she had trouble having access to them. She was intent on having public relationships to embarrass the RF, calling the press all the time, I know Wills hated Dodi, whose to say they both wouldn’t have found her an embarrassment in the future.

SueSaid · 21/07/2021 14:30

'Harry has said recently that his mother's death happened when she had "found happiness" with a non-white man. That's another level of conspiracy theory!'

Yes, a perfect example of the rubbish he has spouted before. I think we can presume there will much more like this. Blame, allegations, claims. He isn't known to be self aware is he. As I say unless he actually has accessed some decent therapy and he wants to apologise to everyone he has hurt in his family. Perhaps he will dedicate it to them? Happy Jubilee granny!

Eaumyword · 21/07/2021 14:33

Oh boy, @BadgerB - that is a conspiracy theory indeed! Shock
We'll have to wait and see what happens I guess.

Bovrilly · 21/07/2021 14:40

Harry has said recently that his mother's death happened when she had "found happiness" with a non-white man. That's another level of conspiracy theory!

🤯 what about when she found happiness with the surgeon guy she was seeing before Dodi?

It's a bit weird, Harry trying to compare his circumstances to hers. I wonder if he really feels that or if he thinks it's a good idea because she was so popular and so missed.

Antwerpen · 21/07/2021 14:42

@FakeColinCaterpillar

I’m not sure if W&H adult relationship with their mother would be as perfect as they make it out to be. They were away at school, she had trouble having access to them. She was intent on having public relationships to embarrass the RF, calling the press all the time, I know Wills hated Dodi, whose to say they both wouldn’t have found her an embarrassment in the future.
How on earth do you know ‘Wills hated Dodi’

Are you a friend/member of the family, or a mind reader? Hmm

Gilmorehill · 21/07/2021 14:43

@ShamedBySiri

I'm just amazed by the complete change of character and reversal of his previous life rules that he has lived by. W&H have both spoken about trust issues, and being suspicious of friends and information leaks. Iirc I think W may have unfairly blamed a friend when in fact his phone had been hacked. One or other of them I think may have mentioned setting traps, releasing a fictional bit of information and seeing if it turned up in the press. They've lived their lives by enjoying a tight, discrete circle of friends (as indeed do most of the other Royals I would think - remember the unnamed friends who gave cover to C&C). Loyalty and discretion are everything to them. Friends get dropped, staff get sacked if they overshare.

Then all of a sudden he can't stop himself (or his wife) from endlessly blabbing and invading the privacy of his family and others. I guess the book will have mentions of a range of friends and other contacts. If I was a named friend I'd be furious, after years of loyal silence. He'll have to be very careful what he divulges imo. We'll see how it pans out and if friends, colleagues and employees pop up to say "Recollections Vary".

I’ve been thinking that too. They’d carefully cultivate a circle of friends they could trust and suddenly H is the untrustworthy one.
FakeColinCaterpillar · 21/07/2021 14:46

@Antwerpen I know I’ve read it a few times. They all went on holiday together and Will didnt like him (he was a teenager with his mum’s boyfriend so it’s expected really)

BTW I thought it had been established Dodi was a summer fling and not the love of her life?

Growtheroses · 21/07/2021 14:52

@IcedPurple

I would bet that he could have made things easier for Meghan and Harry if he had taken them under his wing a bit more and this situation would not have got as out of hand as it has.

The reality is that Harry rushed into marriage with a woman he barely knew - just a year of long-distance dating, basically an extended holiday romance - and who had no experience of life in Britain, let alone life in the royal family. I don't think that's Charles' responsibility. William supposedly told him to take his time with the relationship, but Harry took that as an insult.

Meghan had a whole team of people whose job was to 'take her under their wing' What more did they need? They are middle aged adults, not children.

Yes I see your point. I wonder why he felt the need to marry in haste though?

My point is that if his relationship with Charles and the rest of the family had not been so dislocated and tenuous in the first place, then maybe Harry would have involved them in his decision, or consulted them a bit more, or at least taken some of their advice on board. He wouldn't have been racketing around the world a bit lost ifyswim. And also, he wouldn't have found it as easy to cut them off, or hurt them as he is doing now. There are usually faults on ^both^ sides in this sort of family dispute. But again, that is pure speculation on my part.

Why did he feel the need to

Oldbutstillgotit · 21/07/2021 14:54

If Angela Levin is right ( and she does seem to have good contacts) I can’t really imagine what else is left to say about Diana. Her life and death have been well documented . Harry has talked a lot about her as has William .
It would be odd if Harry doesn’t talk about his Mum but I would imagine Random House will want a lot more for their advance.
Obviously I am only guessing but I think a fair amount of the book will be devoted to more recent events .
Just my opinion.

LubaLuca · 21/07/2021 14:59

Harry is like that character on Tittybangbang - 'Don't look at me, I'm shy! I'm just writing a book about my incredible life! Don't look at me, I'm boring!'

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 21/07/2021 15:00

Whatever he doesn't write about will be as comment worthy as what he does. He doesn't seem to have twigged to that, or that once he's put all this in the public domain, the tabloids he hates will rake through it all and he will have no defence of 'this isn't something you should comment on' because he's chosen to share his story. It really is a baffling decision for someone who hates the press commenting freely on his life. He's now opened another door for them to do so.

ktel1 · 21/07/2021 15:00

@Oldbutstillgotit

If Angela Levin is right ( and she does seem to have good contacts) I can’t really imagine what else is left to say about Diana. Her life and death have been well documented . Harry has talked a lot about her as has William . It would be odd if Harry doesn’t talk about his Mum but I would imagine Random House will want a lot more for their advance. Obviously I am only guessing but I think a fair amount of the book will be devoted to more recent events . Just my opinion.
It'll be from his own unique perspective I suppose

She was a victim like he is a victim, like Meghan is a victim.

That's been their narrative all along.

The whole book will be about their victimhood and all the people responsible.

Any bad behaviour on his part at any time came as a result of that so he isn't actually accountable.

SueSaid · 21/07/2021 15:03

I think he'll come unstuck. At some point he will invade the privacy of the wrong person, someone less tolerant than his poor family. He may well find himself getting sued for his unsubstantiated allegations.

H is a loose cannon and you just know this will all end badly with him having mh crisis after mh crisis as trusted people keep their distance. I hope someone can intervene and tell him to draw a line and enjoy his lovely US family. Surely they should be enough?!

TheCraicDealer · 21/07/2021 15:05

25th anniversary of Diana's death is next year, so that topic and release would tie in with the date. Not sure how I feel about that, bit like they're trying to piggyback off the coverage around the anniversary and make money off it. Bit grim really.

Growtheroses · 21/07/2021 15:08

@ajandjjmum

It's down to personal standards. Some people think it's acceptable to diss others - even those they are supposed to love, others don't.

Take Harry being vile to his family, as opposed to Meghan's ex who has never said a word against her, despite their marriage breakdown. Different standards.

Interesting post. I agree that discretion is usually the better part of valour and it is, in general, more prudent to bite one's tongue etc, but how far does
that extend? I think it depends on the actions and intentions of the other person. For example (for the sake of this argument) if someone behaved in a racist manner towards your wife, surely one would be justified in speaking up and it would be dishonourable to remain silent. In other words, personal standards work both ways?
FakeColinCaterpillar · 21/07/2021 15:17

It’s true he should speak up for his wife. It’s gets lost in the ‘daddy won’t give me millions for doing no work’ narrative though.

CallmeHendricks · 21/07/2021 15:18

@Growtheroses, he could have spoken up by going to the person concerned and discussing it like an adult. Not wait until a globally televised chat with Oprah and then start up with "someone, who I won't name, said this racist thing."
That can only have been a desire for revenge and to cause trouble.

EdithWeston · 21/07/2021 15:21

@TheCraicDealer

25th anniversary of Diana's death is next year, so that topic and release would tie in with the date. Not sure how I feel about that, bit like they're trying to piggyback off the coverage around the anniversary and make money off it. Bit grim really.
It's the Queen's Platinum Jubilee with major national celebrations planned for June (dates already announced)

Random House says publication is planned for 'late' 2022, which wouldn't be so bad.

He must surely realise his bad it would look to publish any time close to the Jubilee?

stillavid · 21/07/2021 15:25

I just think it is all really sad. I remember being pregnant with one of my 2 sons and seeing H&W being interviewed well over 12 years ago and hoping my boys would have such a lovely relationship.

Problem is Harry needs to maximise his revenue and from a marketing perspective next year is the perfect time due to jubilee etc.

I just hope that it is properly fact checked as we all know recollections may vary Wink

ajandjjmum · 21/07/2021 15:29

@Growtheroses I can see that, but surely if someone made a racist comment directed towards your girlfriend (or anyone tbf), you would pull them up on it immediately. You wouldn't leave it for 12 months, and then mention it to said girlfriend, especially if she is struggling with her pregnancy.

Unless the person making the comment knew that it was something that historically you would have treated as 'bants', and it was only some time later you realised that it was hugely inappropriate, having been educated by your girlfriend/wife. In that case, surely the mature thing to do would be to talk to the person quietly, and say that you just wanted to go back to a comment they made, and feel that you need to say how offensive you now find it. You've grown, matured, realised you now look at things differently. Share your learning and recent experiences. Great. We all learn. Or you go on Oprah and make unfounded accusations to the world, against some unnamed person who can't defend themselves.

Several assumptions in there, I know!

Growtheroses · 21/07/2021 15:38

[quote CallmeHendricks]@Growtheroses, he could have spoken up by going to the person concerned and discussing it like an adult. Not wait until a globally televised chat with Oprah and then start up with "someone, who I won't name, said this racist thing."
That can only have been a desire for revenge and to cause trouble. [/quote]
Yes, again I agree to a certain extent. If he was going to say it publicly then I think he should have have named them. However, if it was Charles (not saying it was btw but again for sake of argument) there is legitimate public interest in a future king potentially being racist. I agree though that if his intention was simply trouble making , that would be very distasteful. But if they did experience racism, then I think he was justified in calling it out.

I confess that my experience of being part Irish and Catholic has informed my pov. Many people of my parents' generation were told to be "respectful" and to "not cause trouble" and to "obey your elders and betters" and it was that obedience and silence , within the context of an imbalance of power, that led to all sorts of atrocities being perpetrated. Which is why I am suspicious of the "let's keep it in the family" approach.

It's difficult though I agree when very few people know the truth. Or indeed people have genuinely differing points of view about the same situation.

Growtheroses · 21/07/2021 15:41

ajandjjmum yes, obviously, appearing on Oprah was probably one of the worst ways to address this alleged situation. Having said that, he may have tried to address it through the proper channels and got nowhere. Hence his frustration and Oprah. We don't know for sure.

ajandjjmum · 21/07/2021 15:54

@Growtheroses

ajandjjmum yes, obviously, appearing on Oprah was probably one of the worst ways to address this alleged situation. Having said that, he may have tried to address it through the proper channels and got nowhere. Hence his frustration and Oprah. We don't know for sure.
That's true - although slightly tongue in cheek I would say that if he had tried to address it, we'd have all heard about it! Grin
BringBackThinEyebrows · 21/07/2021 16:01

@livingwitheds1984

Harry's done nothing wrong. Why shouldn't he write a memoir? If you don't like it just don't read it.

If the royal family are so worried about their behaviour being outed then maybe they should apologise and try to make amends for bullying Meghan and tolerating racism, rather than continue trying to smear her and Harry in the press all the time.

The royals are vile and anyone who brings them down a peg is a hero in my eyes.

Things Prince Harry has done wrong: -Prince Harry wore a nazi costume to a party. -Prince Harry was recorded using a racial slur against a colleague. He was also recorded using the racist expression, "fuck me, you look like a raghead". -Black comedian Stephen K Amos stated that Prince Harry said, "hello you don't sound like a black chap" upon meeting him, leaving him wondering how he was supposed to sound.

And those are just the things that have been confirmed!

GlencoraP · 21/07/2021 16:05

Harry has done a lot wrong he’s just never had to take responsibility for it. Someone has always covered for him, taken the flak, been paid to keep quiet etc

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